Draft Review 2016 - Revisiting the 2016 AFL Draft
He was saying "if I'm a neutral" not that he is one
- May 6, 2007
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1. Tom Stewart
2. Luke Ryan
3. Tim Taranto
4. Andrew Mcgrath
5. Hugh McCluggage
6. Tim English
7. Shai Bolton
8. Nick Larkey
9. Josh Daicos
10. Ollie Florent / Will Hayward
HM. Jordan Ridley, Jy Simpkin, Sam Powell Pepper, Sean Darcy
2. Luke Ryan
3. Tim Taranto
4. Andrew Mcgrath
5. Hugh McCluggage
6. Tim English
7. Shai Bolton
8. Nick Larkey
9. Josh Daicos
10. Ollie Florent / Will Hayward
HM. Jordan Ridley, Jy Simpkin, Sam Powell Pepper, Sean Darcy
- Sep 19, 2013
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Taranto? I'm not sure he is top 10 let alone 3rd.
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two time club best and fairest winner, one of which was in a grand final year. He would be thoroughly deserving. Injuries aside the past 18 months, he was incredible before then
- May 28, 2013
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McGrath at 4? Really? You have a back pocket player that has had half an ok season ahead of All Australians?
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English I ummmed and uhhhed about
Daicos.J only "popped" in 2023 after promising so much early but finally putting it all together
Bolton has been a dick tease since he was drafted. I trust my wife's netball ability more than Bolton to show up every week in a season
McCluggage - see English. Nice player, but could have, like draft day, could have gone either way and not been wrong
- May 6, 2007
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To be fair, I've probably under appreciated just how well Tim Enlighs has gone.
Would have McGrath at a similar level to Daicos but behind Clug, Larkey, Bolton.
Genuinely unsure on how to rate English. Sometimes he impacts games like an out and out star other times he is uncompetitive in the ruck to a big detriment to the dogs midfield
Genuinely unsure on how to rate English. Sometimes he impacts games like an out and out star other times he is uncompetitive in the ruck to a big detriment to the dogs midfield
- May 28, 2013
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No - you have way over rated McGrath. He has never finished top 3 in Essendons B&F - a team that has been average for a long time.
You can’t put him above All Australians who have proven they can play at a really high level for an entire season.
- Sep 19, 2013
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Fair shout, he certainly was the club house leader for a few years. His star has fallen a bit since his move to Richmond. Outside top 10 is a bit harsh, but Id have Clugga, Bolton and a couple of others ahead of him.
- May 28, 2013
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How? Daicos is an All Australian and a best and fairest winner in a premiership year. That is outstanding.
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Brownlow Medallist
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The penny has finally dropped with Scrimshaw this year.
Has been coasting on talent alone. Now actually playing with aggression and intensity.
If he fulfils his potential he will be right up there.
IIRC Matty Lloyd who coached him as a junior thought he was the best talent he'd seen.
Has been coasting on talent alone. Now actually playing with aggression and intensity.
If he fulfils his potential he will be right up there.
IIRC Matty Lloyd who coached him as a junior thought he was the best talent he'd seen.
- May 6, 2007
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I guess Shane Woewodin is a better player than Scott West then in your scale of appreciation
- May 6, 2007
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Daicos has been good to very good for two seasons. We are talking about players in season 8
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when fit, hard to argue this
Jeremias
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- Sep 26, 2004
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Not sure why. He’s ahead of McGrath.
Daicos is a bit unlucky that his brother is a freak. He’s a terrific footballer in his own right and won a B&F in a premiership year.
That’s fine, but he’s still ahead of McGrath. If I’m after consistency I’d take McGrath though.
I don’t think anyone outside a select few Essendon supporters are taking McGrath over McCluggage.
You’re suffering from an extreme case of recency bias.
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Yep, said I probably got this one wrong
As mentioned, Daicos has been good for 2/8 years at AFL level after wanting to explode for the first 6. Still think overall McGrath's been better
Wish more people would wake up and realise that Shai's highlights hide his mediocrity. Good player but the carry on make him sound like he is one of the best in the comp.
Maybe, as I said in a follow up post, much like draft night, you could go either way with Hugh or Andrew at 4 / 5
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happy to be proven correct but I will stand by my call. Will give credit where credit is due. He did win a B&F in a premiership year
Jeremias
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Stand by it all you like, but it’s a bit strange to be discrediting Daicos for being “good for 2/8 years at AFL level”, when the entire reason for you posting your ranking tonight is because McGrath has seemingly finally put it together in his 8th.
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This its just plain incorrect
- Sep 26, 2012
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Stewart is the clear 1
I dont think you can judge it purely on awards like BnF's and All Australians, i would have McCluggage at 2 despite having neither.
The 3-8 is hard to order, I would rate Ryan closer to 8 than 3.
I would probably have McGrath at 10 behind Will Hayward
In another 5 years itll be bumped again and the order will be different
I dont think you can judge it purely on awards like BnF's and All Australians, i would have McCluggage at 2 despite having neither.
The 3-8 is hard to order, I would rate Ryan closer to 8 than 3.
I would probably have McGrath at 10 behind Will Hayward
In another 5 years itll be bumped again and the order will be different
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