Analysis 2017 Non-Crows Discussion Thread - Part V for Vendetta

[subaru]

You’ve gone to as much effort as your club has to find a major sponsor, only you got results.

Still selling blank guernseys ...
Ha...
Yes
I forgot about the CHINA thread shitfight I forgot was on the Main Board / so out of 60 posts on the main board in the last year , 38 were lolling at Ports guernsey bullshit and the empty stadium at the China game.

Which leaves 19 posts on the main board for an entire year - hardly posting in "every Port thread".

In context - 188 Main Board posts since August 2015.

 

[King_Tredrea]

It's a pity your board bans any opposition who genuinely tries to offer constructive criticism... but if you don't take it one it's difficult to improve.

I’m not responsible for that. If I had my way there would be no bans, other than personal abuse of course.

 

[subaru]

Just the one for the reply unfortunately

Janus ?

 

[subaru]

I’m not responsible for that. If I had my way there would be no bans, other than personal abuse of course.

I cut and pasted a comment from a Port supporter on your board and posted it as my own and STILL got carded.

It's like the twilight zone over there.
It's no wonder any criticism leveled at your club outside of that "safe place " is met with the typical inferiority complex type reply.

In all honesty do you believe your "recruits " make you a genuine premiership threat? Its the song sheet you are all singing from
- even in the real world there are Port suppprters that believe you would have gone all the way this year if you had just got over the line in the EF.

 

[Legz]

What a load of crap Charlie..

I realise this is just going to sound 'bitter ex girlfriend'-ish, BUT.... does Charlie look like he's 'softened' a bit? He's obviously still muscly, but doesn't appear as lean as I remember him.

 

[subaru]

I realise this is just going to sound 'bitter ex girlfriend'-ish, BUT.... does Charlie look like he's 'softened' a bit? He's obviously still muscly, but doesn't appear as lean as I remember him.

Charlie who ?

 

[1970crow]

Oh yeah, sure, like when we only had ONE umpire instead of 3 and had to bounce the ball ALL the time, not just after goals and starting quarters. The grounds were also much worse. Like I said I'm 58 and I can still bounce the ball properly, even though I'm old and fat. But yeah, sure, bad mouth everything from the 70's

I'm from the 70's. But surely you must understand that the game has changed. Just because there's 3 umpires doesn't mean that they're doing a 3rd of the work. They're still not full time, but like footballers, they've had to switch to concentrating much more on the fitness aspect of their craft. I can tell you that unless you bounce a lot, it isn't that easy, very few people master it as a hobby. It was something that most footballers did with a few others after training every now and then and for every half dozen blokes doing it, only 1 could ever bounce the ball ok. It's a skill that requires correct technique and a certain amount of power. Not everyone has that and it's idiotic to think they do. I'm 45 and have never taken my golf seriously, I play off 12 at the moment, having not played in a number as months, as I do too often. But I can still drive a ball 260m straight down the middle, did it about 8 of the my 14 drives in our Holden Scramble on the weekend. So you reckon I can just stand next to anyone playing golf every weekend and say, "hey, trust me, it's not that hard, I can do it and I don't ever practice and don't have lessons". It's dumb to think this way with any physical skill.

And as a code if we lose good decision makers because they can't master that skill, then the we're much worse off for it.

 

[1970crow]

we're never going to have good decision makers with 50 shades of grey written into the rulebook.

that's why the umpiring standard is so abysmal, has nothing to do with them wasting too much time practicing the bounce ffs.

I 100% agree with your first sentence, but it's irrelevant to the discussion on retaining the bounce. Even with the amount of interpretation required by umpires, there are still better umpires and lesser umpires. If we lose a couple of better umpires because they can't bounce the ball, then the overall standard of umpiring drops. Or do you disagree with this? Removing the bounce doesn't change the game and if it results in being able to retain better decision makers who can't master a skill, and make no mistake, it's a skill, and one that many find hard to master, then the game is all the better for it. And it will further improve if they cease hamstringing the umpires by creating too much interpretation in their decision making. So, there's 2 ways we can improve the quality of umpiring across the competition. Agreed, good.

 

[beartoo]

I cut and pasted a comment from a Port supporter on your board and posted it as my own and STILL got carded.

It's like the twilight zone over there.
It's no wonder any criticism leveled at your club outside of that "safe place " is met with the typical inferiority complex type reply.

In all honesty do you believe your "recruits " make you a genuine premiership threat? Its the song sheet you are all singing from
- even in the real world there are Port suppprters that believe you would have gone all the way this year if you had just got over the line in the EF.

Dunno about the Pear Board, but I know a few Pear supporters and those that I know are appalled by what their club has done in the off season. They expect massive failure in 2018 and a clean out of coach and spuds late next year.

 

[DJ75]

Tickets on himself much ?

Seriously? No-one was running around excited to see Charlie. Eddie on the other hand....!
Interesting from a guy that spends the vast majority of his free time gaming and watching TV shows.

 

[Geoffa32]

What a load of crap Charlie..

Pressure (and scrutiny) builds diamonds.

I look forward to seeing how his career goes up there in anonymity where he can hang with his mates without anyone recognising him.

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[Eagleboy2011]

I'm at the Moseley and sitting next to Charlie Dixon, can I say anything?

Tell him Talia is about and looking for his bitch.

 

[SugarShane]

What a load of crap Charlie..

Poor bugger. Getting paid a 6 figure salary in a dream job but can't handle when he gets scrutinised for not pulling his weight.

 

[TexForPM]

What a load of crap Charlie..

Mentally fragile, lazy, give me money not critisim.
What a waste
I like rugby durrrrrrrrrrr

 

[footy4ever]

Pressure (and scrutiny) builds diamonds.

I look forward to seeing how his career goes up there in anonymity where he can hang with his mates without anyone recognising him.

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I don't think it will matter too much to him what his career does, he'll just keep singing that ABBA song Money Money Money

But family.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Yeah, it's not like he had lots of attention.

If you want to be a professional AFL player, then you need to expect some media attention.

Personally I think he had other issues.

It wasn't the media attention that was the issue. It's people who think that seeing a player out and about in their own private time that need to be stopped and talked to (often about how crap they played on the weekend) and photos requested and autographs demanded. That's not on, they are just being a private citizen at that time. Yes, there were other issues and he would have loved to stay with the club so lay off throwing vitriol at Charlie. At Jake it is more than welcome, but Charlie is still very well thought of by the whole playing group and they are still friends with him. Jake not so much.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

It wasn't the media attention that was the issue. It's people who think that seeing a player out and about in their own private time that need to be stopped and talked to (often about how crap they played on the weekend) and photos requested and autographs demanded. That's not on, they are just being a private citizen at that time. Yes, there were other issues and he would have loved to stay with the club so lay off throwing vitriol at Charlie. At Jake it is more than welcome, but Charlie is still very well thought of by the whole playing group and they are still friends with him. Jake not so much.

Didn't think there was vitriol in my post???

 

[NikkiNoo]

Didn't think there was vitriol in my post???

You said he deserved media attention because he was an AFL player. That wasn't what Charlie was talking about which was the scrutiny that is received in this town. He has done more media up at Brisbane than he did with us, because the club knew that he was such an incredibly shy young man. I replied that it is "people" that stop players out and about and their expectations of owning the players private time that is the issue. That wasn't directed at you. I was just pointing out it wasn't media attention that is the issue in this town. Just look at the replies to that post from other posters here as some perfect examples.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

You said he deserved media attention because he was an AFL player. That wasn't what Charlie was talking about which was the scrutiny that is received in this town. He has done more media up at Brisbane than he did with us, because the club knew that he was such an incredibly shy young man. I replied that it is "people" that stop players out and about and their expectations of owning the players private time that is the issue. That wasn't directed at you. I was just pointing out it wasn't media attention that is the issue in this town. Just look at the replies to that post from other posters here as some perfect examples.

Sure, but there was no vitriol in my post directed at Charlie or anyone.

I made a general statement about media attention when you are an AFL player. It's a fact of life. I never mentioned anthing about bailing up a player in public.

I have only wished Charlie well, including on the Lions board. I genuinely hope he sorts out his personal issues & plays decent footy... as his mind was elsewhere for much of this year.

 

[GrommoT]

I realise this is just going to sound 'bitter ex girlfriend'-ish, BUT.... does Charlie look like he's 'softened' a bit? He's obviously still muscly, but doesn't appear as lean as I remember him.

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[Pea Nut]

Something creepy about a 70 year old man who still shops in the youth section at David Jones

Regardless of where their merch is sold, you realise Deus are a motorcycle workshop who build custom bikes ?? Something that the "youth" who shop at David Jones certainly can't afford. Is it possible Graham might actually be a customer of theirs and had them build a bike for him ??

 

[fabs33]

<rant>
I know this isn't a golf forum ... but c'mon. I'm a reformed scratch golfer and those numbers are way too good.

Never taken golf seriously.
12-handicap.
No practice.
Haven't played in months.
260m? 284 yards?
Down the middle?
8/14 or 57.1%?

From the touring pros on the European tour in 2016:

• Distance: 288 yards (263.3m)
• Driving accuracy (on the fairway - not down the middle) 58.2%.

Do you perhaps play golf drunk and you are quoting how you remember it? Even for an ambrose event, it's just not reality.

Let's go with 225m and 30% fairways hit with the driver. That I could stretch to believable.

Sorry, but it never ceases to amaze me how confused people are with their own ability on the golf course. Please tell me you don't wait till the green clears on long par 5's too even though you are 285m out uphill - just in case you catch your 3-wood properly !!
</rant>

That was absolute gibberish to me.

 

[fabs33]

Would Gibbs be one of the few on less (although he's probably ahead since he was supposed to have front loaded his Carlton deal, although his average yearly salary may be less than what his average year salary at Carlton was)?

I don't know what Gibbs' will be earning, but I seriously doubt he'll be financially worse off in the long run by making the move.

 

[Roovolution]

I’m not responsible for that. If I had my way there would be no bans, other than personal abuse of course.

Why don’t you run a poll on your board or start a thread or something? It’s pathetic and typical of your club that you can’t handle any criticism or even questioning of your club.

#victimmentality

 

[1970crow]

<rant>
I know this isn't a golf forum ... but c'mon. I'm a reformed scratch golfer and those numbers are way too good.

Never taken golf seriously.
12-handicap.
No practice.
Haven't played in months.
260m? 284 yards?
Down the middle?
8/14 or 57.1%?

From the touring pros on the European tour in 2016:

• Distance: 288 yards (263.3m)
• Driving accuracy (on the fairway - not down the middle) 58.2%.

Do you perhaps play golf drunk and you are quoting how you remember it? Even for an ambrose event, it's just not reality.

Let's go with 225m and 30% fairways hit with the driver. That I could stretch to believable.

Sorry, but it never ceases to amaze me how confused people are with their own ability on the golf course. Please tell me you don't wait till the green clears on long par 5's too even though you are 285m out uphill - just in case you catch your 3-wood properly !!
</rant>

What you need to realise is that our ball flies about a club further up here due to our elevation. We're always hitting a club more when we head down to the coast areas, it's a very well known phenomonon. Secondly, I said I'd had a few months off, hadn't played comp since about April and the year before had about 6 months off after my calf operation. But, I came back playing about 5-6 weeks ago playing 9 holes every Friday night in a 9 hole skin event and have played 1 comp and another full ambrose prior to Sunday's event.

Hole 1 - 337m par 4 - blocked right to be on the path in front of the 9th tee, in a direct line about 20m short of the green. A bit of help from the path.
Hole 2 - 404m par 4 - straight down the middle, 10m in front of the 150m marker which is a button in the middle of the fairway. I don't like them, I like posts.
Hole 4 - 491m par 5 - straight down the middle and about 8m through the swale which about 210m from the green. Elevated tee block assisting here, maybe a slight zephyr across the right shoulder as well.
Hole 6 - 492m par 5 - blocked right again, still long, but no reference point, hard and slightly downhill ground as well unless you get caught up in buffel.
Hole 7 - 356m par 4 - blocked right again, up into the grape vineyard never to be seen again.
Hole 8 - 386m par 4 - absolutely smoked straight down the middle, through the swale just short of the bunker which starts 66m from the green. Hard fairway going downhill and then steeply to the swale before the bunker assisting length here.
Hole 9 - 309m par 4 - straight down the middle again, finishing in the swale next to the bridge about 50m from the green.

I don't have time to go through the rest of them in detail, but the hitting remained clean. 10th middle, 11th blocked right, 13th middle, 14th middle, 16th middle, 17th middle, 18th middle.

The thing is that whilst I've always been able to hit the ball, my lack of continuity has resulted in average scoring (blocking doesn't help, although it's not as damaging here). This was a pretty good day though in terms of getting the ball down the middle, although, there was no middle ground, it was either the middle or blocked right. I find it amazing that someone who has never seen someone hit the ball can comment on how they do with such authority. If you had any idea what you were actually talking about, instead of being an insufferable fool, then you'd have played with many a golfer who could smoke the ball long but not score too well for a variety of reasons. And you'd also know that mid handicappers like myself have a greater range between a good day and a bad day with any stick in hand than the low single figure markers. And as I said, for good drives, that was the best day I'd had in a very long time. You'd also know that mid handicappers like myself tend to strike the ball much better in ambrose events because there's less pressure on the shot and we tend to swing easier which improves the result. Whereas low markers who practice tend to play near enough to exactly the same.