2nds 2017 - Peel Thunder

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  1. PurpleWizard

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    I loved the look of Balic but doesnt work at the required tempo. If he can lift his intensity watch out AFL.
     

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    Spot on! Crozier killing it as a midfielder at WAFL level is almost pointless. What is the point in playing him as a mid and getting 7 clearances when hes going to play Ballas role up forward? He isn't gonna go through the midfield at stages, he'd be about 10th in line. Spent pre season down back, JLT up forward and now WAFL in the midfield, we're not adding versatility, we're stuffing up his development.
     
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    I recorded it, but if East Perth had of won it would be up on Yahoo7 by now.
     
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    After watching the game on the weekend, I could see the typical game style of Lyon versus Simpson. It showed Simpson's open spread, fast ball movement compared to Lyon's manic pressure. I think this is the style of play we will see from the dockers this year, being manic pressure and fast ball movement when in our hands. I've got a very good feeling about this year. I hope I'm right:rolleyes:
     
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    Me too. I know Lyon cops flack for it but the intensity of his pressure football is exciting. I think our emerging midfield is going to be much slicker in terms of transition and ball movement once it comes together as well, so paint me optimistic.
     
  7. E Shed

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    Definitely think Balic should be given opportunity in the seniors once his fitness is up to it. If there is one thing we need its more footy smarts. He reminds me of Tucker, the same smooth moving through traffic and he's magic around a clearance.
     
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    His two main issues of pace and kicking are not huge either. His kicking can improve, and his pace won't be an issue if he really is a smart footballer and he builds an AFL tank. Barlow or Mundy pretty good players to emulate.
     
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    Hey guys hearing subes had a stinker on the weekend, just wanted to here y'all option on him and where he's at , can ya put a fork in him will he play in the seniors this year? Thought he was gonna be an out right star when he first came to the club, thought he was gonna be the next captain too....
     
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    Like many on here, I really took a shine at times to Mzungu, DeBoer and especially Barlow but there removal (ruthless removal in the case of Barlow) has really opened up the possibility of playing AFL footy for Balic this year and given best 22 status (at this point in time) to Langdon, Blakley and Tucker which they might not of had if those players remained. I would reckon they would be very excited about their futures and also far more likely to sign extensions. Got a gut feeling if Langdon goes well this year and gets to play with Fyfe a lot, he will be signing a much longer contract extension next time.

    Still gutted for those past players but it is the only way for RTB to play the new talent and the new talent does look mighty good.
     
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    Agree with this but there is just a couple of monsters forwards out there that I would prefer Zak to play on and one of them is Hawkins but for other games I would love to see the continued development of Collins. Happy to have a totally defensive player on Hawkins.
     
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    I honestly can't see any of those 5 leaving any time soon (the three amigos + Tucker & Balic) unless they are pushed. The 3 amigos seem to love living and playing together and all 3 are now B22 so it's not like they will get more opportunity elsewhere. Meanwhile Tucker and Balic are only 2nd year players (and Balic is effectively a first year player) and it's normally a very dumb move to change clubs so early in your career - especially when you now have the best facilities in the league at your disposal. Expecting all 5 will be B22 by season's end and playing alongside Fyfe, Neale, the Hills, Walters and Bennell for the foreseeable future has to be a strong motivation to stay also. That's 11 core (flexible) midfielders we should try and lock in for the next 5 years at least. Now we just need some tall forwards to to fill our gaping crevice and our best half backs to identify themselves out of the large pack we have recruited.
     
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    Balic - does some good things and did break the lines and go for a bit of a gallop that I hadn't seen before but his kicking needs a huge improvement imo. Severely up and under when he is on the run.

    Taberner - reminded me again why he will not make it afl level. He was on a good defender and had few opportunities but when you mark the ball at 40 and kick from inside 50 he can not even make the distance, seen that several times now. Ineffective at AFL level as defenders will just play behind and push him up the ground. His marking is just not good enough at the level even with a slight pressure he goes to water. Sad but he just does not have it... some posters say he needs to "get his confidence", confidence may be a problem but lack of it his case is well founded.
     
  14. freoextra

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    Enjoyed the read and at least you can tell he was actually at the game. I agree with his view of Balic as best on ground, Logue in his best players was a bit of a shock though!! He had one very good quarter but also a couple of blues for mine which would have kept him out of the best list.
     
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    Agree with most of your points especially the marking which must improve and improve now for him to have any chance of playing seniors. However, I don't agree that he can't kick 50m, he is a "confidence" kick but he can easily kick 50m when on song. Think the night game and a touch of rain might have been the reason for that particular kick not making the distance.
     
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    17 disposals at CHB is a pretty good output tho, everyone made a few blues haha
     
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    For those that are interested in players that you should keep an eye out for there is a very young kid in the Peel Colts team you will want to watch play .
    He is number 35 Jaidon Kearing born in 1999, 177cm . second year in the colts team . He moves like and has the same goal sense as Eddie Betts . He is extremely agile with a great side step . He has a nice turn of speed and you will be hard pressed to pick his natural side by hand and foot . He kicked 4.1 against East Perth in the first game of the season.
     
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    You don't think there'll be any stoppages in our forward line?

    Ross likes to build versatility in his players and I agree with this. It makes the squad far more prepared for any situation that may arise and harder to coach against. I'm not sure how much footy you've played but its not hard. If he gets the call up and can't go from midfield one week to a small forward the next with all of the coaching and training plus having played JLT up forward, then he's no good. He's a professional footballer FFS.

    Plus, whats the point of Crozier sitting in the forward pocket all night and getting a dozen disposals? Touch is an amazingly important thing especially when in the early stages of the season. Need to get the ball into his hands so that he's ready for the step up.

    Ross and the club have got this right imo.
     
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    Is it versatility or poor coaching? Why spend the pre season as a rebounding defender (where he showed the most promise and filled a gigantic need) only to play him in the forward line? If Kersten got dropped and played midfield for Peel, would that be smart coaching and adding versatility, or would it effect his development and not make it clear where the club actually wants him to play?

    It's not as simple as 'you dominated in the midfield for Peel, now play as a forward in the AFL, where you will play a completely different role'.
     
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    Tell me your exaggerating?
     
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    You have to hand it to Barich, he is an all-round sportsman.

    He was pretty crap for the Eagles, then he had a run at Rugby League with the Western Reds where he was even crapper.

    I think he has lifted his crapness to a whole new level since he moved into the media.

    Well done Adrian!
     
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    Crozier is a PROVEN failure in the forward line and midfield at AFL level. It is insanity to think this time around will be any different. Play him in the back line, where he has trained all preseason, where we need him and where he has actually proven to be effective, or not at all.
     
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    You'd have to ask Ross that. Go on, I dare you;)

    Re: the change from defender to forward late in the pre-season, there's obviously a reason for it. I'm sure Ross is all over it. Perhaps others e.g. Weller were doing a better job at the role. Maybe Ross felt that we needed him more in the forward line. Weller didn't play for Peel on Sat night whereas Crozier did, so I'm guessing its the former.
     
  25. Carnthedockers

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    Great post.
     
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