Team Mgmt. 2017 rucks – who’s number 1?

[Bunk Moreland]

Firstly, who’ll end up being number 1?

Secondly, who can / will play together?

The thing for me is, I really don’t see how we play both Leuenberger and Bellchambers. It would require one of them to be a forward, and I don’t think either of them are. Though I do have a personal dislike for attmepts to turn kinda uncoordinated, kinda ungainly rucks into forwards. They never seem to have forward sense.

 

[Beerfish]

TBC can play forward.

 

[Kakkle]

Berger. No competition really.

 

[frenchfri12]

Pardon me, but who the hell is 'Smack'?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Pardon me, but who the hell is 'Smack'?

McKernan

 

[JayDon]

S.MACKernan.
Bellchambers is underrated all 'round the ground. Freshened will be dynamite in forward line. Pinch hit in the ruck with Berger doing most work.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I really don’t see it in Bellchambers.

My biggest worry is his inability/refusal to use his body. He’s terribly easy to knock out of a contest at his size. He seems to flop around constantly, drives me nuts.

What am I missing? When has he ever been an effective forward?

 

[frenchfri12]

McKernan

Well he won't be here then, will he?

 

[frenchfri12]

I really don’t see it in Bellchambers.

My biggest worry is his inability/refusal to use his body. He’s terribly easy to knock out of a contest at his size. He seems to flop around constantly, drives me nuts.

What am I missing? When has he ever been an effective forward?

He kicked 6 goals against Melbourne and Port Adelaide I think

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Well he won't be here then, will he?

So don't vote for him.

 

[Beerfish]

I really don’t see it in Bellchambers.

My biggest worry is his inability/refusal to use his body. He’s terribly easy to knock out of a contest at his size. He seems to flop around constantly, drives me nuts.

What am I missing? When has he ever been an effective forward?

My memory is shot. eth-dog probably knows the details by rote. He was quite good down forward one year. Can take a grab and is quite a reliable shot for goal when fit (which he basically hasn't been since that time).

 

[JayDon]

He had that year before his ankle injury??? Was great.
Hopefully returns to that form.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-01-21/bellchambers-to-miss-three-months
Was early 2014. Ankle recos. haven't been great in the past. Hopefully his is recovered and he can find form as a forward.

 

[Despair]

Kicked 28 goals from 18 games in 2013 but that seems an eternity away. Has had injuries since.

He has a frustrating lack of aggression and effort for a man of his stature.

 

[DapperJong]

Who *in knows with belly

Really depends if he returns fit IMO. Otherwise he will just be a fringe ruck.

 

[JayDon]

Kicked 28 goals from 18 games in 2013 but that seems an eternity away. Has had injuries since.

He has a frustrating lack of aggression and effort for a man of his stature.

Might have a bit more now?

 

[Pweter]

Leuenberger is easily our number one ruck. What comes next is all down to structure.

I just realised I don't have anything close to an opinion that I'd be happy to stick with. I started typing a few different responses each of which had merit and each of which had flaws. I'll just leave it as Leuey being first ruck, the coaching staff can sort out the rest.

 

[scanlon]

Luey main ruck with TBell resting forward

do we keep smack?

 

[DHepp21]

Smack is a goner. Almost certain to be delisted.

 

[Duckworth]

No love for Nyuon? I vote for him best ruck under 25.

 

[scanlon]

so if luey or Tbell go down were screwed

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

Fingers crossed Berger remains injury free and finishes off the season with 20 games played.

 

[cAsEy_18]

Bit of a flow on effect. If Hurley goes, you could argue that Hooker has to go back and a
CHF: Daniher
FF: Bellchambers
Ruck: Leuenberger

Makes sense. If Hurley stays however, we keep Hooker forward, and I don't think you play both ruckmen, which is where this question becomes relevant.

Will certainly be interesting. Leuenberger is the safer bet.

 

[84859300]

Bit of a flow on effect. If Hurley goes, you could argue that Hooker has to go back and a
CHF: Daniher
FF: Bellchambers
Ruck: Leuenberger

Tough call. Joe has some pace and chase in the F50. Belly slows that right down and easy enough to target on the rebound.

Also, with such an advantage he got on the weekend, berger didn't impress me too much. Yes he got plenty of the first taps - just that not too many of them got into our hands. Young group? Miscommunication? At times he was farming out taps to no one.

 

[eth-dog]

Bellchambers kicked 28 goals from 18 games playing as a forward/ruck one year, then had an ankle injury that set him way back, a broken patella and a broken foot all at the same time towards the end of 2015. Is it unreasonable to expect him to kick 30+ goals in a full season?

 

[JDavey]

Leuy as main ruck.
TBC in forward line/2nd ruck
Daniher can pinch hit if one of Leuy/TBC is out.
Goddard/Heppel to continue third man up.
Smack to be delisted.
Nyon to continue development in the seconds.