List Mgmt. 2017 Trade/Draft/FA SuperMegaUltra Thread - Post Trade-Period Edition

[Monocle]

I imagine that Oscar or Brander will start the year in the WAFL reserves, if the squad is relatively healthy.

Probably Allen because that way we can give him some midfield minutes without taking them away from Partington, Mutimer and company.

Doubt that Brander starts in the 2’s as I don’t see any players at East Perth that will keep him out of playing either CHF or FF.

I think Brander might surprise a few on here and play some AFL games next year.
His marking ability shits on Schofields and if we need a mobile third tall I reckon he will get the nod.

Branders agility and ability below his knees belies his height, in a few years other teams supporters will be asking how the hell did this key position player slip to 13.

 

[Gerald Preston]

 

[Feeling Groovy]

Darling as a mid rotation has zero merit.

Agreed. Zero merit. Yet somehow more merit than Brown as a small forward.

 

[new breed]

Darling would easily be one of our best outside 50 set shots....

Distance wise he is ten metres plus behind JK

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Doubt that Brander starts in the 2’s as I don’t see any players at East Perth that will keep him out of playing either CHF or FF.

I think Brander might surprise a few on here and play some AFL games next year.
His marking ability shits on Schofields and if we need a mobile third tall I reckon he will get the nod.

Branders agility and ability below his knees belies his height, in a few years other teams supporters will be asking how the hell did this key position player slip to 13.

I'm not 100% sure. I think that Matthew Allen and Waterman would be ahead of Brander for the FF or CHF spots. It's mainly due to seniority but the 8-12 WAFL games they've played is more games against men than Brander, plus they've been in a professional environment for 12-24 months longer and they both kicked some goals at WAFL level.

Brander would have to train really well to jump past them, IMO.

 

[Woobla Stainz]

I dont expect to see Brander or Allen play next year.
Maybe a token game or two at the end of season for a taste. Or if we are decimated by injuries. Allen has only played 4 games against men, so needs time to develop.

Give him gis 1st game in the 1st derby and then make him play every game for the rest of the year, thats how Jack Watts became a house hold name and is in every poll on BF

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I think he's the outside bull. Think Richardson and Riewauldt later in their careers killing it playing off the wing. I would be very confident Darling could kick 30 - 40 goals off a wing and resting forward.

Darling as a link man is fine, Darling as a midfielder is not.

Richardson and Riewoldt didn't win their own ball or run and carry, which is typically what you expect from a midfielder. I think saying "Darling to midfield" gives people nightmares of Darling lumbering a couple paces behind the play, trying to keep up.

 

[squashface]

If Mallen gets his body right I think he would surprise a few on here.

His few WAFL games last year were very impressive.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I'm not 100% sure. I think that Matthew Allen and Waterman would be ahead of Brander for the FF or CHF spots. It's mainly due to seniority but the 8-12 WAFL games they've played is more games against men than Brander, plus they've been in a professional environment for 12-24 months longer and they both kicked some goals at WAFL level.

Brander would have to train really well to jump past them, IMO.

Waterman isn’t exactly the same size as brander. He should be looking to push into the midfield as well as being a forward. If waterman Soley tries to be a forward he will be too one dimensional

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Waterman isn’t exactly the same size as brander. He should be looking to push into the midfield as well as being a forward. If waterman Soley tries to be a forward he will be too one dimensional

I don't know much about Waterman but I don't see him being able to do much in the middle. To me he's a forward or bust.

Brander, I think will end up a defender, but I would do everything possible to help him make it as a forward first.

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

If Mallen gets his body right I think he would surprise a few on here.

His few WAFL games last year were very impressive.

I'm pretty high on him but he needs to stay healthy.

You don't improve fast enough (or at all) if you're not playing and training, and Allen hasn't been fit much over the last 2 years. One more year like that and he's 21 with the experience of an excellent draftee or an average second year player. You don't want that coming into your 4th season.

 

[mattyc75]

If Mallen gets his body right I think he would surprise a few on here.

His few WAFL games last year were very impressive.

I would try playing mallen in the midfield. Talked himself up as a potential midfielder when he was drafted and seems to be getting further back in the queue. Not sure about his contract status but 2018 would have to be make or break for him.

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[Eagle Wrath]

I don't know much about Waterman but I don't see him being able to do much in the middle. To me he's a forward or bust.

Brander, I think will end up a defender, but I would do everything possible to help him make it as a forward first.

Why do you think Brander will end up a defender?
He has been a forward all his life, except for this year where clubs wanted to see his versatility.
Be a waste turning him into a defender.

 

[kerr87]

Beer Oclock

 

[bzparkes]

Man after all the previous posts I thought people would've realised I was taking the piss... Sorry to those who took me seriously.

#Darling2midfield2018

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Why do you think Brander will end up a defender?
He has been a forward all his life, except for this year where clubs wanted to see his versatility.
Be a waste turning him into a defender.

Like all my posts there isn't a lot backing my opinion up. I think he ends up a defender because you have to be really good to make it as a KP forward and Brander doesn't seem that amazing from what people say or from what I see in short clips.

Also, consider this - if he was likely to make it as a forward would clubs ask to see him in defence? It's just little things like that which feel like clues.

Anyway, I agree we should give him every chance as a forward.

 

[FKASC]

Just on Brander and the uncertainty around his position:

How many gun KPFs have there been in the comp who started off being a 'swingman' or someone who wasn't 100% locked-in as a key forward.

I can't think of any, to be honest.

It's typical that a guy who played key forward as a junior then gets moved into the backline at AFL level but not the other way round.

My gut impression is that all of the best KPFs have been guaranteed KPFs their whole lives. And half of the best KPDs were KPFs too.

It seems as though if you aren't locked and loaded as a KPF when you are drafted, you will probably won't end up a successful KPF at AFL level.

Any merit to this gut?

 

[Feeling Groovy]

Just on Brander and the uncertainty around his position:

How many gun KPFs have there been in the comp who started off being a 'swingman' or someone who wasn't 100% locked-in as a key forward.

I can't think of any, to be honest. It's almost always a player who played key forward as a junior and then moved into the backline at AFL level.

My gut impression is that all of the best KPFs have been KPFs their whole lives, as were half of the best KPDs. It seems as though if you aren't locked in as an obvious KPF before you are drafted, you will probably won't end up a successful KPF at AFL level.

Any merit to this gut?

I'm thinking things have changed a bit or are changing, with flexibility being a greater focus in recruiting. Hence why younger players are being asked to show more. But I may have just made that up for something to say so someone will talk to me...

 

[darksquare]

Just on Brander and the uncertainty around his position:

How many gun KPFs have there been in the comp who started off being a 'swingman' or someone who wasn't 100% locked-in as a key forward.

I can't think of any, to be honest.

It's typical that a guy who played key forward as a junior then gets moved into the backline at AFL level but not the other way round.

My gut impression is that all of the best KPFs have been guaranteed KPFs their whole lives. And half of the best KPDs were KPFs too.

It seems as though if you aren't locked and loaded as a KPF when you are drafted, you will probably won't end up a successful KPF at AFL level.

Any merit to this gut?

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[FKASC]

I'm thinking things have changed a bit or are changing, with flexibility being a greater focus in recruiting. Hence why younger players are being asked to show more. But I may have just made that up for something to say so someone will talk to me...

Fraser Gehrig?


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Fair calls

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Just on Brander and the uncertainty around his position:

How many gun KPFs have there been in the comp who started off being a 'swingman' or someone who wasn't 100% locked-in as a key forward.

I can't think of any, to be honest.

It's typical that a guy who played key forward as a junior then gets moved into the backline at AFL level but not the other way round.

My gut impression is that all of the best KPFs have been guaranteed KPFs their whole lives. And half of the best KPDs were KPFs too.

It seems as though if you aren't locked and loaded as a KPF when you are drafted, you will probably won't end up a successful KPF at AFL level.

Any merit to this gut?

I have the same feeling, obvs.

I also want to add to what I said earlier - almost all players end up being a fair bit worse than everyone excepts when they're drafted. I'm kind of playing the odds downgrading Brander because of that.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Just read the last few pages.

Hurn to midfield or GTFO

 

[FKASC]

I have the same feeling, obvs.

I also want to add to what I said earlier - almost all players end up being a fair bit worse than everyone excepts when they're drafted. I'm kind of playing the odds downgrading Brander because of that.

Yeah I am pretty meh about picking him - I was happy at first during the draft because I thought it might have signalled an all-out midfield assault, but not to be.

At least he is tall and at the very least he can maybe replace McGovern when he gets too old.

 

[FKASC]

Just read the last few pages.

Hurn to midfield or GTFO

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Why do you think Brander will end up a defender?
He has been a forward all his life, except for this year where clubs wanted to see his versatility.
Be a waste turning him into a defender.

We need more tall defenders bro