2017 UK General Election - The Verdict: It's MAYDUP

[LeverPuller]

Tories are going to romp it in. Centre-left vote will be split between an unpopular Labour and a do-nothing LibDems, Tory majority of ~60 seats.

Scotland to entirely vote in SNP and Labour MPs.

 

[Sainteric]

This is crap

Its not inthe eus interest to accept its people being banned from freedom of movement in the uk, but uk peeps get freedom of movement in the eu

Its not in the eus interests to set up separate rules for the city to ensure it remains the european financial capital

Soft exit cant occur, because the uk hardliners will never agree to europeans getting the same rights and wants in the uk that they are wanting in the eu - esp on freedom of movement

The city already has seperate rules

Freedom of movement will be worked out, they are not going to throw residents out of either uk or eu

 

[The Speaker]

What's it like being far right?

There is no such thing as left and right, so I can't answer.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

The city already has seperate rules

Freedom of movement will be worked out, they are not going to throw residents out of either uk or eu

Yes, as a part of the eu.

Why is it in the eus interest to support the city, when dublin, frankfurt, paris, or amsterdam could do it?

This whole cake and eat it too strategy will.never be accepted

 

[SBYM]

Unfortunately Labour and the rest aren't organised enough to push out the Tories at this point, which is what May is banking on.

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The little focus group of Labour voters I just saw on the telly didn't fill me with much hope that unity is arriving anytime soon...

 

[SBYM]

In any case, glad I ended up in the UK.

It's been a nice, quiet few years...

 

[tandino]

May is a hardline Brexiteer. Hard Brexit is what England's going to get. Where she differs with the backbench is they want parliamentary oversight of negotiations and the EU powers given to them. She wants both those things going directly to the executive (herself).

There's Brexiteers who prefer to crash out, it's their Plan A.

This election will leave them marginalised and makes a deal more likely. If Brexit is a must, then an election at this time is probably the best thing for the process.

 

[SBYM]

There's Brexiteers who prefer to crash out, it's their Plan A.

This election will leave them marginalised and makes a deal more likely. If Brexit is a must, then an election at this time is probably the best thing for the process.

Unless Labour does better than expected...

Highly unlikely, of course, but if things go worse for May than she's expecting...let the games begin.

 

[SBYM]

Tell ya one thing...

They're all the same the world over. Just watching the Commons now re the two-thirds vote...

It's just a room full of donkeys in suits braying at one another.

 

[flashmanvc]

Why would Labour agree to an early election? Would've thought letting the Tories take ownership of Brexit is the smart thing to do.

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[tandino]

Why would Labour agree to an early election? Would've thought letting the Tories take ownership of Brexit is the smart thing to do.

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Can you imagine an opposition party anywhere going "......nah, we're right for now".

 

[tandino]

Unless Labour does better than expected...

Highly unlikely, of course, but if things go worse for May than she's expecting...let the games begin.

Well stranger things have not happened. But there's always a chance.

 

[SBYM]

Well stranger things have not happened. But there's always a chance.

Buckley's chance me thinks...

Amirite?

 

[SBYM]

Interesting that May is saying she won't debate.

They're pounding her for it thus far.

 

[flashmanvc]

Can you imagine an opposition party anywhere going "......nah, we're right for now".

Easy to imagine Labour selling it as a cynical attempt to get another term before the wheels fall off, which is the truth, it seems. Brexit was a conservative idea, so let them start rolling it out and see which of the promises they made come true, then let the public deliver a verdict.

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[iluvparis]

Interesting that May is saying she won't debate.

They're pounding her for it thus far.

Historically before the last few elections UK leaders didn't debate.

 

[SBYM]

Historically before the last few elections UK leaders didn't debate.

Ye...they were talking about this yesterday.

Just think it's a bit strange because she is in what many pundits are saying is a virtually unassailable position, and she actually does quite well during PMQs, so why make a rod for your own back?

They will lash her with it, 100%.

And she keeps banging on about how she'd rather be out there doing the 'real' work whatever the * that means, knocking on doors, and speaking to 'real' people...

Well to that I say, no s**t love, you should be doing both.

 

[SBYM]

In any case, it's not make or break, I'm sure. Just find it an odd thing to say no to based on what I have seen of her performance on the floor and the lead she has.

 

[medusala]

There's Brexiteers who prefer to crash out, it's their Plan A.
This election will leave them marginalised and makes a deal more likely.

Crash out? Nothing wrong with WTO option. Dont forget the Tory local associations are typically very strongly pro Brexit and a heap of mp's were only in favour of remain because they wanted to curry favour with Disco and Gideon.

Germany allegedly will stick to its guns for a EUR50 billion bill as otherwise it will have to pay lions share of increased contributions. Poms would be utter morons to think about even paying a fraction of that.

Scotland to entirely vote in SNP and Labour MPs.

Dont think so. Lib dems and tories have one mp each up there. Would be surprised if they were both lost

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scotlands-key-battlegrounds-2017-general-10251668

 

[Rob]

Unfortunately Labour and the rest aren't organised enough to push out the Tories at this point, which is what May is banking on.

Labour's problem isn't that they're not organised, it's because Corbyn is batshit crazy.

 

[medusala]

Labour's problem isn't that they're not organised, it's because Corbyn is batshit crazy.

They also have the issue that Minor Fart is trying to turn this into another Brexit vote and they have a heap of northern mp's in heavily leave areas and London ones which are heavily remain.

Corbyn might be a clueless muppet who has never had a real job but even a good operator would struggle to hold that all together. Far easier for a Tory or Lib Dem leader.

 

[The Speaker]

Labour's problem isn't that they're not organised, it's because Corbyn is batshit crazy.

What, for being a socialist?

Labour is not going to be winning anything any time soon with any leader. Most of the MPs are at odds with their members. Not exactly a recipe for success.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Corbyn is batshit crazy.

No he isn't.

 

[darth_timon]

No he isn't.

He's seen as radical. Which some people equate as the same thing.

 

[Rob]

What, for being a socialist?

Not just for being a socialist, but being a batshit crazy one.

Seriously, what sort of a ******* policy is this?


The dude thinks he's Robin Hood.