2018 Best 22

[eastfreo75]

Definitely. I am not really a fan of debuts before round 5-ish anyway. Of course there can be exceptions, but you want to be confident a player is going to have a good debut. I also like debuts to be earned, so happy to see players held back a bit.

Always a balancing act between development and players earning a spot.

For me, play the extremely talented kids as much as possible and the others need to break down the door. If the talented kids are not working hard, then by all means don't play them. If the talent and effort are their play them.

I would play Cerra and Brayshaw in front of players that are not in our best 15 eg Spurr, Ballantyne, Sutcliffe, Sheridan etc.

Players start making a solid contribution between 30 and 50 games. If we can get 15-20 games into Brayshaw and Cerra and do it for three years, their fourth year will be very exciting.

 

[Joao]

I am not seeing it quite like this. He is an inside midfielder and from my reading not one who translates to a forward or defender. As an inside mid he has some serious competition, plus Brayshaw and Cerra lurk as the standout candidates for an inside mid chance. North as well. The only best 22 midfielder that he seems like a likely "in" for is Neale, mainly because we have clearly had a preference for taller midfielders.

I'm looking forward to his debut, but he will need more than an injury to get an opportunity. He will need to be better than quite a few potential "others".

Crowden played forward in the SANFL and LLoyd introduced him as a mid/fwd in his intro speech.

Good chance he gets a game with majority forward line minutes. Lets face it, our forward line is terrible so unless it improves out of site there are probably going to be form based opportunities there, even ignoring injuries.

 

[Lach72]

You could play Matera in a pocket and Crowden in the other.
I reckon Sonny is going to play a LOT of Midfield this year.

 

[Joao]

You could play Matera in a pocket and Crowden in the other.
I reckon Sonny is going to play a LOT of Midfield this year.

This is my hope.

Sonny could poll 20+ brownlow votes playing in middle. The dream was Harley and him playing 50/50 mid/fwd each but that might not pan out.

 

[Lyoncarcass]

We need Sonny up forward a whole lot more than in the middle.

 

[Lach72]

We need Sonny up forward a whole lot more than in the middle.

I dunno. Add in Matera, Ballantyne, Fyfe...Some goal kickers there.
I reckon our problems up front are 50% delivery

 

[Lyoncarcass]

I dunno. Add in Matera, Ballantyne, Fyfe...Some goal kickers there.
I reckon our problems up front are 50% delivery

Walters is out best shot on goal - bar none.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

 

[eastfreo75]

I like a large number of players who can in the midfield and forward line. Easier to create mismatches and confusion for defenders.

 

[Joao]

We need Sonny up forward a whole lot more than in the middle.

Walters is out best shot on goal - bar none.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

You think that but go watch the first 8 or so games where Sonny played 80% forward and couldn't get near it. Then watch the games where he played bulk midfield minutes. It is also not like he wasn't kicking goals from the midfield. In fact I'd be willing to bet he kicked more in his "midfield" games than his "forward" ones.

Absolutely must play lots of midfield. Just because he is on ball doesn't mean he isn't allowed to enter the forward line anyway.

 

[sherrif]

Walters is out best shot on goal - bar none.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Except last year Walters kick more goals when playing midfield compared to playing forward. Robbing nothing to play him a 50/50 role.

 

[theGav56]

Walters playing midfield and Crowden forward equates to preferring Crowden to Brayshaw and Cerra. I don't see it in

 

[Purple Jesus]

Walters is out best shot on goal - bar none.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Not sure what you were watching mate, he kicked more goals from the midfield than as a fwd.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Walters playing midfield and Crowden forward equates to preferring Crowden to Brayshaw and Cerra. I don't see it in

You think Brayshaw or Cerra would be a played in the pocket? I see them rotating through the midfield and half-forward/half-back.

 

[_007_]

Geez it’d be great if there was a spot further up the ground than a pocket, but still in the forward line, kind of like a half forward/half midfield position....

 

[Joao]

Walters playing midfield and Crowden forward equates to preferring Crowden to Brayshaw and Cerra. I don't see it in

There are 22 spots and probably 12 people rotating through the midfield. Not sure how Crowden playing prohibits both (seriously it is at most 1 or the other) playing?

How many games did Suban, Sutcliffe, Sheridan and Pearce play this year yet Cerra, Brayshaw and Crowden can't all play because?

This isn't a massive deal. Between injuries and poor form (especially the younger guys who will fluctuate) I think a lot of new faces will get a look.

 

[Scham]

Geez it’d be great if there was a spot further up the ground than a pocket, but still in the forward line, kind of like a half forward/half midfield position....

You mean the centre forward position that Ross refers to.

 

[_007_]

You mean the centre forward position that Ross refers to.

Not a fan of that type of talk to be honest Schamiel. I was referring to the flank if it isn’t clear.

 

[Scham]

There are 22 spots and probably 12 people rotating through the midfield. Not sure how Crowden playing prohibits both (seriously it is at most 1 or the other) playing?

How many games did Suban, Sutcliffe, Sheridan and Pearce play this year yet Cerra, Brayshaw and Crowden can't all play because?

This isn't a massive deal. Between injuries and poor form (especially the younger guys who will fluctuate) I think a lot of new faces will get a look.

Are you including the rucks in that 12? Bit of a stretch if not.

 

[sherrif]

Walters playing midfield and Crowden forward equates to preferring Crowden to Brayshaw and Cerra. I don't see it in

Ive seen all three. It wouldnt surprise me if Crowden was first to debut.

 

[Crippa]

Ive seen all three. It wouldnt surprise me if Crowden was first to debut.

Brayshaw may be first to debut but it wouldn't surprise me if Crowden turned out to be the better player.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

The conundrum with Mitch Crowden is his height.
Mitch is a long kick too which supports him being further out from full forward line but too short as half forwards go.
I'm pretty sure he is our shortest player now but what difference does a centimetre or two make.
We don't start with a conventional forward structure anyway so I say list him in the pocket and let him run all around within 55 metres.
At the risk of sounding overly effusive, not only does he have great handball and kicking skills but he is quick too.
To top it all off, he was taking terrific marks in a match sim which was drawing applause..... I mean overhead onehanders.
Damn, I hope he gets the chances. He's a bloody energiser bunny.

 

[_007_]

Why not even a back pocket? He could be yet another weapon but with a hard edge similiar to Grey. I'd find a way to get him in that's for sure .

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Why not even a back pocket? He could be yet another weapon but with a hard edge similiar to Grey. I'd find a way to get him in that's for sure .

He is much shorter than Brady, besides we already have the back six covered.

 

[_007_]

He is much shorter than Brady, besides we already have the back six covered.

I haven't met the back pocket who is too short to defend a forward pocket but I must say our back 6 already looks good.

 

[eastfreo75]

You could play Matera in a pocket and Crowden in the other.
I reckon Sonny is going to play a LOT of Midfield this year.

The conundrum with Mitch Crowden is his height.
Mitch is a long kick too which supports him being further out from full forward line but too short as half forwards go.
I'm pretty sure he is our shortest player now but what difference does a centimetre or two make.
We don't start with a conventional forward structure anyway so I say list him in the pocket and let him run all around within 55 metres.
At the risk of sounding overly effusive, not only does he have great handball and kicking skills but he is quick too.
To top it all off, he was taking terrific marks in a match sim which was drawing applause..... I mean overhead onehanders.
Damn, I hope he gets the chances. He's a bloody energiser bunny.

Daniels from the Dogs goes all right.

If Your small but quick as lightning with beautiful skills and smart there is always a spot for you. The thing is,two out of three doesn't get it done.