List Mgmt. 2018 Draft Watch - Depth Chart In OP

[JAKLAUGHING]

Don't see a problem..
Most sides have one Ruckman and pray he's not going to get injured!

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Don't see a problem..
Most sides have one Ruckman and pray he's not going to get injured!

Only 2/17 teams have a ruckman that is clearly better than Nank too, we aren't gonna pluck out a state leaguer that's gonna give Gawn or Grundy a problem lol.

 

[Grrr]

Let's agree to agree.

I forgot about Chol. No idea how he goes rucking though.

We've got 4 rucks on the books. What we need is for one to step up a notch next year to be able to support Nank. But right now I have a definite problem with selecting another ruck - we'll have too many. However, we don't have to mature decent ruck to fill in. I'd guess that most teams are in this boat though. We have options, which is great. We'll see what they do in the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if its mid heavy though.

Chol is no tap ruckman but when the ball hits the deck is pretty good, like Nank. Another preseason will be interesting, has talent but not a natural footballer.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Don't see a problem..
Most sides have one Ruckman and pray he's not going to get injured!

Only 2/17 teams have a ruckman that is clearly better than Nank too, we aren't gonna pluck out a state leaguer that's gonna give Gawn or Grundy a problem lol.

Yep.

 

[tigerdan]

Chol is no tap ruckman but when the ball hits the deck is pretty good, like Nank. Another preseason will be interesting, has talent but not a natural footballer.

I have only seen Chol play one game in the flesh and he played as a key forward. He had all the attributes except the most important one, which was knowing how to play football. He was a fast, agile, gangly kid with a huge leap. Unfortunately he had NFI about how to lead for the football, where to position himself on the ground, or what to do when he got it.

If he can make it as a ruckman I will be very happy. I bear him no ill will, I hope he makes it. But geez he had a long way to go.

 

[Phar Ace]

I have only seen Chol play one game in the flesh and he played as a key forward. He had all the attributes except the most important one, which was knowing how to play football. He was a fast, agile, gangly kid with a huge leap. Unfortunately he had NFI about how to lead for the football, where to position himself on the ground, or what to do when he got it.

If he can make it as a ruckman I will be very happy. I bear him no ill will, I hope he makes it. But geez he had a long way to go.

Ball in hand, in space, doing kick to kick, he looks like he could be anything. In a game it's like he is playing chess with draughts.

He had an Achilles injury I think for much of 2018 or the latter part (could be wrong) but only just made it back for the VFL Elim Final and looked all at sea. No shame in that really - another pre-season and we will see, as long as he gets pick up again after de-listing. Not sure I'd persevere, but he's a great bloke and tries really hard so can understand if the coaches think he's getting closer and re-contract him.

 

[Phar Ace]

I'm very biased, but would let Soldo go and try and get a back up Ruckman for two years. At least if Nank is out we have a stoppage Ruckman who taps, tackles, shepherds and marks. May well be one available via RFA very soon.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Yep.

Apparently just signed with the Tigers.
The Albury Tigers.

 

[db26]

There is another ruck in the sanfl won the flag with Nth Adelaide only 20 yrs old 202cm Jordan Sweet perfect late pick.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Apparently just signed with the Tigers.
The Albury Tigers.

Need to sound him for our team!

 

[db26]

I'm starting to like the kid Stocker exactly what we need bull inside midfielder hopefully lasts to our pick.

 

[Cotchy9]

Could Stocker play next year if required? We need our pick 17 to be ready to go if called upon

 

[Dr Tigris]

Apparently just signed with the Tigers.
The Albury Tigers.

Awesome. Really just a smokescreen by Balme. 'Albury tigers, sorry I meant to write Richmond on the form'.

Make it happen

 

[rammbo]

Yep i get soldo is a log type ruckman and would probally get outclassed by a gawn and grundy but he sure wont get bullied and will win quite a few hitouts against em ,strong tackler too i reckon hes not to bad as a backup also we have ccj miller, balta and chol who would be more competitive than many may think .Our ruck stocks are not a problem imo and if we get stocker and ely smith our list balance will be f..kn good

 

[Dr Tigris]

Could Stocker play next year if required? We need our pick 17 to be ready to go if called upon

If we need a first year player to play serious AFL then we're not doing it right. That we've done it the last 2 years is amazing, and awesome. But I'd be happy to get someone and then 4 years later they emerge as genuine quality after a thorough development (CCJ??)

This year it sounds like we could, maybe should, get a genuine top quality mid for our first pick. Top 10 quality sliding to us. I'm very stoked about that. Our drafting has been really solid recently, so if we can get another top range mid for the third year in row we'd be building that future base incredibly well.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Yep i get soldo is a log type ruckman and would probally get outclassed by a gawn and grundy but he sure wont get bullied and will win quite a few hitouts against em ,strong tackler too i reckon hes not to bad as a backup also we have ccj miller, balta and chol who would be more competitive than many may think .Our ruck stocks are not a problem imo and if we get stocker and ely smith our list balance will be f..kn good

I'm with you brother

- I presume brother. This could be you though

 

[rammbo]

I'm with you brother

- I presume brother. This could be you though

Not me but that b..ch stole my knife

 

[tony__montana]

I'm starting to like the kid Stocker exactly what we need bull inside midfielder hopefully lasts to our pick.

Theres 2 or 3 inside mids I wouldnt mind, good chance one of them will get to us

 

[tony__montana]

Don't see a problem..
Most sides have one Ruckman and pray he's not going to get injured!

Only 2/17 teams have a ruckman that is clearly better than Nank too, we aren't gonna pluck out a state leaguer that's gonna give Gawn or Grundy a problem lol.

So agree with this. Getting pretty sick and tired of seeing all the bleating for more ruckmen. The fact is no one we get is making an iotas difference in competing against the very best. You cant play 2 x pure rucks in the same side either imo.

Hitouts and hitouts to advantage are the most overrated stats in footy. We just need Lynch to ruck in the fwd line(no centre squares) and we're fine. nank will patrol a kick behind play and keep doing his thing around the ground which he is one of the best in the business at

 

[Cotchy9]

If we need a first year player to play serious AFL then we're not doing it right. That we've done it the last 2 years is amazing, and awesome. But I'd be happy to get someone and then 4 years later they emerge as genuine quality after a thorough development (CCJ??)

This year it sounds like we could, maybe should, get a genuine top quality mid for our first pick. Top 10 quality sliding to us. I'm very stoked about that. Our drafting has been really solid recently, so if we can get another top range mid for the third year in row we'd be building that future base incredibly well.

Agree. Only reason I said it is because mid depth seems to be shallow. If say Cotch and Lambert went down, pick 17 May be thrust into action

 

[SumTingWong]

There is another ruck in the sanfl won the flag with Nth Adelaide only 20 yrs old 202cm Jordan Sweet perfect late pick.

 

[4tune8]

I'm with you brother

- I presume brother. This could be you though

If so....I'm game

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Too late on Soldo now probably. And we'd have to know that there is someone that can beat him for AFL performance.

My take on watching him in the firsts was that firstly, his tank needs a lot of work, secondly he's nothing on Nank around the ground, but does a basic role, and thirdly, his physicality is good so he can play that bulldozer role.

I'd guess Soldo is a solid depth reserve ruck. But that's about it. I suspect that he'd grow into playing AFL and be about as good on the lower tier of AFL rucks. But we want at least a good AFL ruck, and possible a top tier one. Nank's not top tier, but he's damn good. All those guys are already signed up, and we've got a future one in CCJ.

Think about this over a 2-3 year timeline. If we get a mature state leaguer then they might do a better fill in role. But they could stifle the development of CCJ. We're caught between a rock and hard place in this situation right now. Nank and then a huge step down.

Think we are between a rock and a hard place with our 2nd ruck.
With Lynch any 2nd ruck would make us top heavy.
Only solution is a hybrid 2nd ruck like a Balta who can play another role for 85% of the time.

 

[Mickyp81]

I think Grigg is an under rated clearance mid. Do not like him on the wing, but he gets his hands on the ball in the middle as much as anyone. Not sure age is going to weary him as he is a real gut runner. 190cm 85kg mid who uses it well by hand and runs both ways. Tad slow, but never stops. Was under utilised last year I thought.

Not a bad option imo. I’d like to see Balta on the wing. This could work.


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[Lsta062]

There is another ruck in the sanfl won the flag with Nth Adelaide only 20 yrs old 202cm Jordan Sweet perfect late pick.

Sweet