Analysis 2018 List Management discussion Pt 2

[Juddernaut08]

Gaff as a free agent.
May for second round pick and Jones.
Lloyd for this years and next years second round pick.
Shiel for next years first.
Fasolo as FA

Lloyd May Marchbank

Simpson Wietering Docherty

Gaff Cripps Fisher

Pickett Curnow SPS

Murphy McKay Fasolo

Kruezer Sheil Dow

Kennedy Williamson E. Curnow O’ Brien

Trading next years first is compensated by picking up Kelly for 2020...

Get it done SOS...

LOL As if mate.

 

[Prem17]

Would rather us take Collins in the draft than trade for May.
Spend the picks that would have been used on May on mids instead.

 

[Jirik13]

My current thoughts are that Gold Coast get pick 3 as compensation and a priority pick and we get a priority pick. Meaning...
- We will have picks 1, 20, 25 and 27 and the Gold Coast have 2,3, 21 etc.
- I would trade pick 1 and next year's first for picks 2 and 3 from the Gold Coast. They do this to land Lukoscious and we still get Walsh at 2.
- We now have 2,3,20,25,27
- Trade picks 3 and 27 for 8 and 16 from Adelaide. Why do they do this? To land the second best SA prospect in Rankine. We now have 2,8, 16, 20, 25 and 27.
- We trade pick 8 for Shiel (no use sitting on our hands hoping he comes here with other clubs circling hard)
- Trade pick 20 for Lloyd
- Take 2, 16, 25 and 27 to the draft.
- Draft Walsh, O'Halloran, Williams and Poldjaski.
- Sign Fasolo and (hopefully) Dalhaus

2019 Starting 22

B - Williamson Marchbank Plowman
HB- Docherty Weitering Simpson
C- Lloyd Cripps Fisher
HF- SPS C Curnow Dalhaus
F- Fasolo McKay Murphy
Fol- Kreuzer Dow . Shiel
INT- Walsh, Kennedy, E Curnow, Pickett

Sorry to intrude here but Suns would have to have rocks in head to do the trade you suggest. OK, now you can add that Suns did trade pick 2 for Weller Suns will be happy to take Lukosius or Walsh with pick 2.

Also Shiel for pick 8? It would cost you pick 1.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Sorry to intrude here but Suns would have to have rocks in head to do the trade you suggest. OK, now you can add that Suns did trade pick 2 for Weller Suns will be happy to take Lukosius or Walsh with pick 2.

Also Shiel for pick 8? It would cost you pick 1.

Gold Coast gave up pick 2 for Lachie Weller lol. They are essentially trade bunnies, dw we got this.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

Gold Coast gave up pick 2 for Lachie Weller lol. They are essentially trade bunnies, dw we got this.

Thought most Carlton supporters were done with the arrogant knob routine

 

[AB_Blue]

We don’t need Steven May

Develop our own which we have on the list

 

[Juddernaut08]

Thought most Carlton supporters were done with the arrogant knob routine

1 and ~5 for 2 and 3? Does that seem "rocks in their heads" disproportionate to you?

 

[Masqualero]

I'd love to trade with you then. Very generous. Dalhaus at his peak perhaps, now you have to factor the risk of non-performance.

I've said this before, but look at how Richmond built their list. Sure they have a handful of stars, but it's their B+ grade players, that fleet of of high-pressure players. They had hit-after-hit in the 2nd round. 2nd round picks are valuable. At least 1 of the 2 picks you're suggesting could turn out better than Dahlhaus. And you get 2 shots at it.

I'm talking about DH not Dahl.

Dahl is a free agent no?

Edit: Should have mentioned that earlier sorry

 

[Juddernaut08]

I'm talking about DH not Dahl.

Dahl is a free agent no?

Edit: Should have mentioned that earlier sorry

Oh Hannenbery? Yeah then I agree with you lol

 

[Masqualero]

Oh Hannenbery? Yeah then I agree with you lol

Agree to... agree?

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

We don’t need Steven May

Develop our own which we have on the list

Yes we do. We don't have a Steven May type on our list, well at least not one that's as good as he currently is.

 

[Carl]

1 and ~5 for 2 and 3? Does that seem "rocks in their heads" disproportionate to you?

It may not but this years top end is meant to be elite. If rolls were reversed we would tell GC to piss off.

 

[pinot]

Thought most Carlton supporters were done with the arrogant knob routine

Impossible its in our club song - get used to it.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Gold Coast gave up pick 2 for Lachie Weller lol. They are essentially trade bunnies, dw we got this.

Still not understanding the LOL about this trade. GCS traded pick 2 for a ready made player that wanted to move to them rather than a kid from the draft. Not sure why they are laughed at for this.

 

[AB_Blue]

Yes we do. We don't have a Steven May type on our list, well at least not one that's as good as he currently is.

2 things

Price and character doesn’t suit our needs

We would have to give up a first rounder when we desperately need them for midfielders

KPD’s are not what we lack

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

2 things

Price and character doesn’t suit our needs

We would have to give up a first rounder when we desperately need them for midfielders

KPD’s are not what we lack

Good ones we do as I said.

 

[Jeremias]

Can you see a fwd line of Charlie Harry Kerr and Fasolo a possibility ?

I don't see why not.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I don't see why not.

Agreed, though Id rather see a Harry, Charlie, McGovern and Fasolo.

 

[footyfan1978]

Would rather us take Collins in the draft than trade for May.
Spend the picks that would have been used on May on mids instead.

I like a thinker.

 

[Jeremias]

Agreed, though Id rather see a Harry, Charlie, McGovern and Fasolo.

No doubt.

 

[Toddski]

Sorry to intrude here but Suns would have to have rocks in head to do the trade you suggest. OK, now you can add that Suns did trade pick 2 for Weller Suns will be happy to take Lukosius or Walsh with pick 2.

Also Shiel for pick 8? It would cost you pick 1.

Please go away.

Shiel is barely worth pick 8 IMO. Pick 1 you are seriously dreaming.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Agreed, though Id rather see a Harry, Charlie, McGovern and Fasolo.

Which McGovern? Or should I say Mhich?

 

[Prem17]

I like a thinker.

To me, Collins sounds like a man with a point to prove.
Maybe he didn't like Ross Lyon?
Certainly wouldn't be the first on that score.
Reports have suggested he's playing like a man possessed, so I'd prefer that to someone like May, especially if it means we can draft/trade for mids instead because May won't be cheap.

 

[footyfan1978]

Please go away.

Shiel is barely worth pick 8 IMO. Pick 1 you are seriously dreaming.

Forgive him for his perspective. He lives in a world where trading pick 2 for Weller is great move. We ourselves traded pick 7 for essentially Jaksch a few years back under previous regime. Clubs are not immune from moments of madness.

 

[footyfan1978]

To me, Collins sounds like a man with a point to prove.
Maybe he didn't like Ross Lyon?
Certainly wouldn't be the first on that score.
Reports have suggested he's playing like a man possessed, so I'd prefer that to someone like May, especially if it means we can draft/trade for mids instead because May won't be cheap.

I watched Collins on tv for a couple of quarters two weeks back. He will slip into an AFL senior team next year similar to how Tim Kelly and Bailey Fritsch did this year. Totally ready by looks of things. But I honestly expect Collingwood, Demons or Saints will grab him before we get the chance.