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Am I stuck in the VFL or is Shannon Hurn not having a great year comparatively to Lloyd, Rich, Houli?

He's having a belter year

In fairness you are probably comparing him to the wrong style of defender in out team

He's not a run off type like those - we have jetta for that

However Hurn is defending sensationally, intercept marking and then pin pointing kicks like no one's business coming out of defence.

If you want all your defenders being attacking run off players - he doesn't make it. But as some point you need to pick a defender who actually defends.
 
Am I stuck in the VFL or is Shannon Hurn not having a great year comparatively to Lloyd, Rich, Houli?

1st half of the season he was the one (along with Yeo) keeping us in it while the rest of the team were finding fitness and touch - so he looked damn impressive. His DE was beyond elite.
He is not looking as impressive in the back half simply because the rest of the team have found their feet and are not relying on their captain to drag them over the line.

That's my take on it.
Deserves to be in but with greater weight often given to the back end of the season he possibly misses.
 
Dustin Martin averaging 27 disposals, 1 goal & 1 goal assist per game.
he is coming home with a storm.

Has his whole season been in the best 6-8 midfielders though?
 

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If Cripps isn't a lock I give up.
He's had an odd year. Likely top 5 in AFLCA and Brownlow, if not top 3.

But he's missed 2 and had 5 games with little influence, including 2 which he was well beaten. So that's a third of the season he hasn't been at AA level, which is a large chunk, albeit his other performances have collectively been Brownlow pace.

Tough one. Will likely be selected but objectively I don't mind a more consistent season being favoured even if the best is a rung below. Would need to see comparison to last picked mid.
 
If Cripps isn't a lock I give up.

Well the midfield is so tight and he's missed 2 games plus was missing in 3-4 others, but I'd still have him in as the premier inside mid of the comp and I agree he should be in the centre not bench, but I can sorta understand if someone leaves him out, it's not that insane
 
If Cripps isn't a lock I give up.
You think he's been far and away a top 3 mid? He has had his fair share of nothing games and missed a couple. There are at least 10 mids you can easily make a case for in that team.

Edit: Probably should be ahead of Dusty who went missing for half a season though is having an incredible run home
 
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FB: Dylan Grimes (Rich) -- Harris Andrews (Bris) -- Adam Saad (Ess)
HB: Shannon Hurn (WC) -- Jeremy McGovern (WC) -- Zac Williams (GWS)
M: Lachie Neale (Bris) -- Patrick Cripps (Carl) -- Marcus Bontempelli (WB)
HF: Gary Ablett (Geel) -- Tom Hawkins (Geel) -- Michael Walters (Freo)
FF: Charlie Cameron (Bris) -- Jeremy Cameron (GWS) -- Jack Darling (WC)
R: Max Gawn (Melb) -- Patrick Dangerfield (Geel) -- Nat Fyfe (Freo)
IC: Dustin Martin (Rich) -- Brodie Grundy (Coll) -- Jack Macrae (WB) -- Elliot Yeo (WC)

11 teams represented in my best-22 right now. Crows are the highest ranked team that I didn't find a place for in the best-22.

West Coast: 4
Geelong: 3
Brisbane: 3
Fremantile: 2
Richmond: 2
Western Bulldogs: 2
GWS: 2
Essendon: 1
Collingwood: 1
Melbourne: 1
Carlton: 1
 
FB: Dylan Grimes (Rich) -- Harris Andrews (Bris) -- Adam Saad (Ess)
HB: Shannon Hurn (WC) -- Jeremy McGovern (WC) -- Zac Williams (GWS)
M: Lachie Neale (Bris) -- Patrick Cripps (Carl) -- Marcus Bontempelli (WB)
HF: Gary Ablett (Geel) -- Tom Hawkins (Geel) -- Michael Walters (Freo)
FF: Charlie Cameron (Bris) -- Jeremy Cameron (GWS) -- Jack Darling (WC)
R: Max Gawn (Melb) -- Patrick Dangerfield (Geel) -- Nat Fyfe (Freo)
IC: Dustin Martin (Rich) -- Brodie Grundy (Coll) -- Jack Macrae (WB) -- Elliot Yeo (WC)

11 teams represented in my best-22 right now. Crows are the highest ranked team that I didn't find a place for in the best-22.

West Coast: 4
Geelong: 3
Brisbane: 3
Fremantile: 2
Richmond: 2
Western Bulldogs: 2
GWS: 2
Essendon: 1
Collingwood: 1
Melbourne: 1
Carlton: 1

Not bad. Would move Neale on-ball, Macare to the wing, Danger to the bench. Swap Grundy and Gawn. Either Houli or Sheppard in for Saad too.
 
Sam Walsh would be close. If he can have big games for these last 3, he could squeeze in on the bench.

Also reckon Rowan Marshall should be in too. I think he has been more dominant than Gawn. Grundy Ruckman, Marshall I/C.

100% neither of these things is happening
 

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How many mids make the team? 8-10?

I’d have them in rough order:

Locks: Neale, Bont, Cripps, T. Kelly

Pretty much locked: Fyfe, Danger

Should be in: Boak, Martin,

Just miss or 1-2 sneak in: Cunnington, Macrae, Pendlebury, Yeo, Parker, Duncan, Treloar, Zorko, Dunkley, Shuey

I’ve probably forgotten some.
 
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How many mids make the team? 8-10?

I’d have them in rough order:

Locks: Neale, Bont, Cripps, T. Kelly

Pretty much locked: Fyfe, Danger

Should be in: Boak, Martin,

Just miss or 1-2 sneak in: Cunnington, Pendlebury, Yeo, Parker, Duncan, Treloar, Zorko

I’ve probably forgotten some.
Think you've got it pretty close to how it ends up. Only other I'd add to the list of "likely to miss" is Macrae. Averaging 33 disposals, and got 45 disposals on the weekend (a season high for any player competition-wide) along with 7 tackles, 4 marks, 574 metres gained, 8 inside 50s and 12 clearances. He's in insanely good form to finish the year, which may help his chances (due to recency bias). Similar would apply to Martin. He started the year a bit down and was nowhere near AA, but he's been one of the most in-form players to finish off the year which could really help his chances

Looks like you've edited to include him now so I'm guessing it was just oversight haha
 
Think you've got it pretty close to how it ends up. Only other I'd add to the list of "should be in" is Macrae. Averaging 33 disposals, and got 45 disposals on the weekend (a season high for any player competition-wide) along with 7 tackles, 4 marks, 574 metres gained, 8 inside 50s and 12 clearances. He's in insanely good form to finish the year, which may help his chances (due to recency bias). Similar would apply to Martin. He started the year a bit down and was nowhere near AA, but he's been one of the most in-form players to finish off the year which could really help his chances

Yeah I had missed him and Shuey. And also Dunkley but he’d be at the back of that group. Feels like the top 6 are clear and I’d have them on the ground, maybe danger on a HFF.
 

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Yeah I had missed him and Shuey. And also Dunkley but he’d be at the back of that group. Feels like the top 6 are clear and I’d have them on the ground, maybe danger on a HFF.
Yeah Dunkley will unfortunately miss. Arguably would have been a lock if we only take Round 7 onwards (AFL website had an article comparing him and Neale, who he's been outperforming despite Neale being among the Brownlow favourites). I think his first 6 rounds wasting away up forward will stop him making it.

Shuey has been incredible this year from the games I've watched. Honestly there are going to be so many deserving players who will miss out because the competition for spots is too tight. Outside of the top 6 you named, there are about 10 more players who have strong argument for a spot, but I doubt any more than 5 or 6 of those ones will actually make their way in to the 40
 
You think he's been far and away a top 3 mid? He has had his fair share of nothing games and missed a couple. There are at least 10 mids you can easily make a case for in that team.

Edit: Probably should be ahead of Dusty who went missing for half a season though is having an incredible run home
Half a season you say. He's had 4 games for the season with under 23 possessions. He may not have been as dominant as he has the last 8 weeks, but hardly missing. Yes there may be 10 better mids this season, but if he hadn't been suspended, I reckon he would be piling on the Brownlow votes and might give it an outside nudge by the end of the year.
 
Half a season you say. He's had 4 games for the season with under 23 possessions. He may not have been as dominant as he has the last 8 weeks, but hardly missing. Yes there may be 10 better mids this season, but if he hadn't been suspended, I reckon he would be piling on the Brownlow votes and might give it an outside nudge by the end of the year.
Not watching all the Richmond games you'd have a much better idea than me. Was half a stretch? Probably, but he wasnt close to AA performances for most of the first half of the season.

I had him in my original team anyway, its not like I didnt rate him, just realised I was probably judging Cripps harshly given I had Martin in.
 
Not watching all the Richmond games you'd have a much better idea than me. Was half a stretch? Probably, but he wasnt close to AA performances for most of the first half of the season.

I had him in my original team anyway, its not like I didnt rate him, just realised I was probably judging Cripps harshly given I had Martin in.
He wasn't as dominant for sure, but still had 7 games in the first 12 over 25 possessions. Just saying...
 
There is plenty of bias for most around their own team.

I don't see how Bonts and Macrae could miss, but expect Macrae to be overlooked because of the selection bias of those picking the team.

Outside of the Bulldogs, I believe Dylan Grimes is also a must.
 

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