2019 Non-Crows AFL Chat Part 2

[subaru]

I hope it doesn't. It's a massive distraction for them, which probably does more harm than good to their chances of making the finals. They don't gain any financial benefit going, and they certainly don't gain anything on-field. Why would we want this idiocy to end?

It’s getting lower attendances each year. Cathay’s not giving them the free flight and I think this year it took them 2 or 3 stopovers

It’s a complete albatross and if they could get out of it without looking totally stupid, they absolutely would


But they can’t

 

[Thetrader15]

and yes the very limited stuff I've seen from Bogut reeks of an entitled fu** stick who seems to forget not everyone has the talent to be drafted #1 in the NBA draft

Typical US sports person. Entitlement, needing lots of time off and not working hard (I know Andrew, you work hard for 30 hours a week)

 

[subaru]

I've always thought their all stupid those people who can't spell

There idiots

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I've always thought their all stupid those people who can't spell

I blame apostrophes for that one

(should've)

 

[hey shorty]

GC are soon to be team Brabham - never any good and then gone

Brabham were very very good for a long time, something the Suns have not been.

 

[Thetrader15]

Brabham were very very good for a long time, something the Suns have not been.

Not Jack...Team Brabham, which IIRC was David

 

[hey shorty]

Not Jack...Team Brabham, which IIRC was David

Brabham won 3 Championships after Jacks in 66. Was taken over by Bernie Ecclestone in the mid 70s and was quite competitive until Piquet left at the end of 85.

Fell away very quickly after the passing of Elio De Angelis in 86.

 

[Thetrader15]

Brabham won 3 Championships after Jacks in 66. Was taken over by Bernie Ecclestone in the mid 70s and was quite competitive until Piquet left at the end of 85.

Fell away very quickly after the passing of Elio De Angelis in 86.

Which was about when I was old enough to stsrt watching

 

[hey shorty]

Which was about when I was old enough to stsrt watching

Me too, I just love my F1 history

 

[Elite Crow]

To cheer us up

 

[radiojake]

it doesn't really cheer me up when the Crows are playing pitiful too

 

[Elite Crow]

it doesn't really cheer me up when the Crows are playing pitiful too

There’s that, but we’ve recently been shit, they’ve been shit for years and Hinkley is a shocker

 

[Dixie Normous]

Hinkley is starting to look like Blofeld

 

[Samcro24]

There’s that, but we’ve recently been s**t, they’ve been s**t for years and Hinkley is a shocker

Their “shit for years” started as a “recently been shit”.

 

[Deaneus!]

To cheer us up View attachment 714217

Dissent looks so much nicer with good graphic designers

 

[jenny61_99]

If I consumed TV news I would be loving the hypocrisy about the drug cheat Chinese swimmer compared to Essendon

But they were so very brave! I cannot believe some people are suggesting Hird as an option for us. Seriously, I'd walk away from the club if that turnip was brought in.

 

[Deaneus!]

If I consumed TV news I would be loving the hypocrisy about the drug cheat Chinese swimmer compared to Essendon

I believe you mean, Essendon*

I hope it doesn't. It's a massive distraction for them, which probably does more harm than good to their chances of making the finals. They don't gain any financial benefit going, and they certainly don't gain anything on-field. Why would we want this idiocy to end?

I find it embarrassing, and I don't even like them

...but hope they keep going, there are no better lies than the ones we tell ourselves

 

[edge of reason]

Dissent looks so much nicer with good graphic designers

They also could have added all the sponsors on Kern's shirt that have now disappeared.

 

[Tyls83]

[emoji23]

 

[The Karma Bus]

To cheer us up View attachment 714217

Needs a "Cans of Coke Zero/No Sugar consumed by Ken in the coaches box in those 1750 days" stat.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[Elite Crow]

To sum it up:

AFL team in non-sporting town destined for failure needs help at the expense of the rest of the competition

 

[WaynesWorld19]

To sum it up:

AFL team in non-sporting town destined for failure needs help at the expense of the rest of the competition

They've already got their Academy Selections in QLD as well .....so much for an even competition

Shall we go thru their concessions when they came into the comp .....and they still stuffed it up completely in just a handful of years

Did the Gold Coast Suns and GWS Giants Receive the Same Start-up Concessions for Entry Into the AFL?
Abstract
Absolutely Not.

Introduction
In the early 2010’s, the AFL underwent expansion, adding two clubs based in two of Australia’s largest growth areas. The first of the clubs, the Gold Coast Suns, were added into the national competition in 2011, while the GWS Giants entered the AFL in 2012. Both clubs were given numerous draft, salary cap, list size and zone recruitment concessions.
Many claim that the GWS Giants and the Gold Coast Suns received the same concessions upon entry into the AFL. This report compares the concessions granted to the two clubs, and attempts to determine the validity of this popular claim.

Draft Concessions

The two clubs were given access to draft picks in both the National and Rookie Drafts. As an additional concession to the GWS Giants, a MiniDraft was established, allowing access to 17 year old players from across the nation. The minidraft was ran in 2011 and 2012. The Giants were provided with the first two picks in both of these, which they were forced to trade to other clubs in the competition. In the Rookie draft of their foundation year, the Suns were granted the first five selections. The GWS Giants were granted the first eight picks in their first rookie draft.
In the 2010 National Draft, the Suns were granted picks 1,2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,26 and 48. In the 2012 National Draft, the Giants were granted picks 1,2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 and 26.

Quantifying the National draft picks given to both clubs is an easy task - the AFL assigns National draft picks point values. This is designed for the Academy and Father/Son bidding system, although it provides a simple way to compare draft concessions. The Gold Coast Suns received 17,426 draft points in their inaugural year, while the GWS Giants received 16,395 draft points in the National Draft.

To quantify the value of the Mini-draft picks, we examine what each of these picks was traded for. In the 2011 draft, the first mini-draft pick was traded alongside draft pick no. 31, for the fourth pick in the National draft, and a first round compensation pick. This gives this mini-draft pick a points value of at least 1428 points.
The second mini-draft pick was traded alongside Luke Brown for Pick 10 in the national draft, and a first round compensation pick. Brown has played 86 games for his destination club, and was likely worth the first round compensation pick involved in the trade. Thus, the points value of the second mini-draft pick is approximately 1395 points.
The first 2012 mini-draft pick was traded for a points value of 2586 points, while the second pick was traded for approximately 2483 points. (This trade also included Dom Barry, who played only 5 games for his destination club.)
Across the national and mini-drafts, the Gold Coast Suns received draft concessions totalling approximately 17,500 points, while the GWS Giants received picks worth 24,000. This approximate difference of 6,500 is equivalent to two numberone selections in a National Draft, or picks 1, 3 and 5. Thus, along with their additional rookie selections, the draft concessions provided to the GWS Giants were considerably more generous.

Salary Cap Concessions
Upon entry into the national competitions, both clubs were granted increased salary cap space for a number of years. A comparison of these concessions have been provided in Table 1.

Years After Inaugural Season	Salary Concession (AUD) GCS	Salary Concession (AUD) GWS	Difference
0	1,000,000	1,000,000	0
1	800,000	1,000,000	200,000
2	600,000	1,000,000	400,000
3	400,000	880,000	480,000
4	0	760,000	760,000
5	0	640,000	640,000
6	0	520,000	520,000
7	0	0	0

 

[The Karma Bus]

It gets better. Gold Coast will be asking for 2 priority picks. They want Rowell and Anderson as assistance, pick 1 and 2. I gather they would then get their own pick after that as well? Hahahahaha.

We should be compensated if they even get one pick at the start of the draft, let alone two. What a joke.

 

[thebirdman 24]

Doubt they will get a PP. They are talking about giving them access to Darwin talent though.

They have proved that no matter how many PP and concessions they get they butcher the picks or don't develop the players.