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List Mgmt. 2020 Draft (December 9) discussion thread

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Our currently owned picks:

24 - Blake Coleman
43 - Harry Sharp
48 - Henry Smith

Our currently owned 2021 picks:

1st (MEL), 1st (BRI), 3rd (WCE), 3rd (BRI), 4th (MEL), 4th (COL), 5th (BRI)
 
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Johnny Bananas said:
I'm confused, is it 1 in 100, or 18 each year? Because both can't be correct.
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Sorry I didn't quite put that right - bad me. It is 1 in 100 after pick 35 that bit was right.

Then

Of the top 40 picks in the draft each year whom go on to be 'successful'

2008- 22
2009- 19
2010- 15
2011- 19
2012- 10
2013- 18
2114- 15
2015- 21
2106- 19

so about 18 each year.
 
Clarkythelion said:
Sorry I didn't quite put that right - bad me. It is 1 in 100 after pick 35 that bit was right.

Then

Of the top 40 picks in the draft each year whom go on to be 'successful'

2008- 22
2009- 19
2010- 15
2011- 19
2012- 10
2013- 18
2114- 15
2015- 21
2106- 19

so about 18 each year.
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In 2106 they'll all be robots anyway.
 

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blueiris said:
Matt Balmer has Us linked to Tom Highmore in he’s phantom draft on the Fox Footy website
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I'd never heard of him before today but from my scant research Highmore(mature age 22) is more a 3rd tall/rebound defender type eg. James Sicily.
 
Jason mp said:
I'd never heard of him before today but from my scant research Highmore(mature age 22) is more a 3rd tall/rebound defender type eg. James Sicily.
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We already have great 3rd defender in Gardiner
 
blueiris said:
Matt Balmer has Us linked to Tom Highmore in he’s phantom draft on the Fox Footy website
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What do you mean by tall defender?

He's not a key defender. He won't be playing on key forwards. He's more of an intercepting defender/distributor
 
blueiris said:
We already have great 3rd defender in Gardiner
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We also have Charlie Cameron so why draft Coleman?
 
blueiris said:
We already have great 3rd defender in Gardiner
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He reads more like a replacement possibility for Grant Birchall/Ryan Lester than Gardiner.
 
PattyKwasagun said:
Interestingly, Sam Walsh has stated before that it would be his dream to play at AFL level with his brother. Considering the Fitzroy link with his family and his passionate support of the Lions growing up, I wonder if he might consider a move up here one day if we drafted his brother.
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I thought Sam was too vanilla and not damaging enough for most on here?

I assume many would change their tune if Sam did come north; assuming the Lions did draft his brother.

FWIW, I like Sam a lot as a player irrespective of what some say about him on the Lions board.
 

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Dylan12 said:
I thought Sam was too vanilla and not damaging enough for most on here?

I assume many would change their tune if Sam did come north; assuming the Lions did draft his brother.

FWIW, I like Sam a lot as a player irrespective of what some say about him on the Lions board.
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Sounds like someones description of Lachie Neale after we picked him up......
 
jackess said:
Sounds like someones description of Lachie Neale after we picked him up......
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I quite like vanilla.
 
With the draft tomorrow and our first pick at 25 which will be pushed back to early 30's i thought i would post the picks up to 32 since 1981
Below figures courtesy of Draft Guru
Click on the Red pick number and you can see who was picked at that number back to 1981.

Basically the lower pick number you are the higher games average surprise surprise. However you are more likely given early games at lower ranked clubs to give you a chance to show what you have got to offer. This possibly inflates the average number. But no doubt the clubs have got better at judging talent.
Pick 6 & 13 stand out.
Pick 6 not great overall. Had a good patch 2007 to 2012 (Myers 123 games, Yarran 119, Rohan 144, Wingard,178 & Macrae 159)
More recent 2013 to 2019 okay but jury still out on some (M Scharenberg 41, Marchbank 48, Francis 35, Petrevski-Seton 80, Stephenson 54, Ben King 31 & McAsey 10)
Pick 13 looks reasonably impressive overall but from 2008 not so great
Bad picks- L Johnson 10, Lucas Cook 0, K Jaksch 14, B Lennon 21,
So so picks- Kane Lucas 42, Corey Ellis 32
Better picks- Docherty 108, Jy Simpkin 73, C Curnow 58,
Still early days- D Fogerty 24, Z Butters 36, K Pickett 14.

AFL Draft Picks Broken Down by Pick Number

Pick NumberDraftsAverage Games Played
National Draft pick 136 drafts156 avg games
National Draft pick 236 drafts135 avg games
National Draft pick 336 drafts133 avg games
National Draft pick 436 drafts101 avg games
National Draft pick 536 drafts120 avg games
National Draft pick 636 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 736 drafts115 avg games
National Draft pick 836 drafts98 avg games
National Draft pick 936 drafts99 avg games
National Draft pick 1036 drafts91 avg games
National Draft pick 1136 drafts93 avg games
National Draft pick 1236 drafts85 avg games
National Draft pick 1336 drafts112 avg games
National Draft pick 1436 drafts87 avg games
National Draft pick 1536 drafts79 avg games
National Draft pick 1636 drafts91 avg games
National Draft pick 1736 drafts71 avg games
National Draft pick 1836 drafts81 avg games
National Draft pick 1936 drafts90 avg games
National Draft pick 2036 drafts70 avg games
National Draft pick 2136 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 2236 drafts46 avg games
National Draft pick 2336 drafts56 avg games
National Draft pick 2436 drafts75 avg games
National Draft pick 2534 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 2634 drafts70 avg games
National Draft pick 2734 drafts62 avg games
National Draft pick 2834 drafts51 avg games
National Draft pick 2934 drafts84 avg games
National Draft pick 3034 drafts60 avg games
National Draft pick 3134 drafts62 avg games
National Draft pick 3234 drafts65 avg game
 
Dylan12 said:
I thought Sam was too vanilla and not damaging enough for most on here?

I assume many would change their tune if Sam did come north; assuming the Lions did draft his brother.

FWIW, I like Sam a lot as a player irrespective of what some say about him on the Lions board.
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Imagine people changing their opinions like some have about Witherden.

Your absolute hypocrisy is ridiculous.
 
Section 5 said:
With the draft tomorrow and our first pick at 25 which will be pushed back to early 30's i thought i would post the picks up to 32 since 1981
Below figures courtesy of Draft Guru
Click on the Red pick number and you can see who was picked at that number back to 1981.

Basically the lower pick number you are the higher games average surprise surprise. However you are more likely given early games at lower ranked clubs to give you a chance to show what you have got to offer. This possibly inflates the average number. But no doubt the clubs have got better at judging talent.
Pick 6 & 13 stand out.
Pick 6 not great overall. Had a good patch 2007 to 2012 (Myers 123 games, Yarran 119, Rohan 144, Wingard,178 & Macrae 159)
More recent 2013 to 2019 okay but jury still out on some (M Scharenberg 41, Marchbank 48, Francis 35, Petrevski-Seton 80, Stephenson 54, Ben King 31 & McAsey 10)
Pick 13 looks reasonably impressive overall but from 2008 not so great
Bad picks- L Johnson 10, Lucas Cook 0, K Jaksch 14, B Lennon 21,
So so picks- Kane Lucas 42, Corey Ellis 32
Better picks- Docherty 108, Jy Simpkin 73, C Curnow 58,
Still early days- D Fogerty 24, Z Butters 36, K Pickett 14.

AFL Draft Picks Broken Down by Pick Number

Pick NumberDraftsAverage Games Played
National Draft pick 136 drafts156 avg games
National Draft pick 236 drafts135 avg games
National Draft pick 336 drafts133 avg games
National Draft pick 436 drafts101 avg games
National Draft pick 536 drafts120 avg games
National Draft pick 636 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 736 drafts115 avg games
National Draft pick 836 drafts98 avg games
National Draft pick 936 drafts99 avg games
National Draft pick 1036 drafts91 avg games
National Draft pick 1136 drafts93 avg games
National Draft pick 1236 drafts85 avg games
National Draft pick 1336 drafts112 avg games
National Draft pick 1436 drafts87 avg games
National Draft pick 1536 drafts79 avg games
National Draft pick 1636 drafts91 avg games
National Draft pick 1736 drafts71 avg games
National Draft pick 1836 drafts81 avg games
National Draft pick 1936 drafts90 avg games
National Draft pick 2036 drafts70 avg games
National Draft pick 2136 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 2236 drafts46 avg games
National Draft pick 2336 drafts56 avg games
National Draft pick 2436 drafts75 avg games
National Draft pick 2534 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 2634 drafts70 avg games
National Draft pick 2734 drafts62 avg games
National Draft pick 2834 drafts51 avg games
National Draft pick 2934 drafts84 avg games
National Draft pick 3034 drafts60 avg games
National Draft pick 3134 drafts62 avg games
National Draft pick 3234 drafts65 avg game
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I love the lift in average games for pick 29 which is where Twomey has our pick.
 

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Section 5 said:
With the draft tomorrow and our first pick at 25 which will be pushed back to early 30's i thought i would post the picks up to 32 since 1981
Below figures courtesy of Draft Guru
Click on the Red pick number and you can see who was picked at that number back to 1981.

Basically the lower pick number you are the higher games average surprise surprise. However you are more likely given early games at lower ranked clubs to give you a chance to show what you have got to offer. This possibly inflates the average number. But no doubt the clubs have got better at judging talent.
Pick 6 & 13 stand out.
Pick 6 not great overall. Had a good patch 2007 to 2012 (Myers 123 games, Yarran 119, Rohan 144, Wingard,178 & Macrae 159)
More recent 2013 to 2019 okay but jury still out on some (M Scharenberg 41, Marchbank 48, Francis 35, Petrevski-Seton 80, Stephenson 54, Ben King 31 & McAsey 10)
Pick 13 looks reasonably impressive overall but from 2008 not so great
Bad picks- L Johnson 10, Lucas Cook 0, K Jaksch 14, B Lennon 21,
So so picks- Kane Lucas 42, Corey Ellis 32
Better picks- Docherty 108, Jy Simpkin 73, C Curnow 58,
Still early days- D Fogerty 24, Z Butters 36, K Pickett 14.

AFL Draft Picks Broken Down by Pick Number

Pick NumberDraftsAverage Games Played
National Draft pick 136 drafts156 avg games
National Draft pick 236 drafts135 avg games
National Draft pick 336 drafts133 avg games
National Draft pick 436 drafts101 avg games
National Draft pick 536 drafts120 avg games
National Draft pick 636 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 736 drafts115 avg games
National Draft pick 836 drafts98 avg games
National Draft pick 936 drafts99 avg games
National Draft pick 1036 drafts91 avg games
National Draft pick 1136 drafts93 avg games
National Draft pick 1236 drafts85 avg games
National Draft pick 1336 drafts112 avg games
National Draft pick 1436 drafts87 avg games
National Draft pick 1536 drafts79 avg games
National Draft pick 1636 drafts91 avg games
National Draft pick 1736 drafts71 avg games
National Draft pick 1836 drafts81 avg games
National Draft pick 1936 drafts90 avg games
National Draft pick 2036 drafts70 avg games
National Draft pick 2136 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 2236 drafts46 avg games
National Draft pick 2336 drafts56 avg games
National Draft pick 2436 drafts75 avg games
National Draft pick 2534 drafts61 avg games
National Draft pick 2634 drafts70 avg games
National Draft pick 2734 drafts62 avg games
National Draft pick 2834 drafts51 avg games
National Draft pick 2934 drafts84 avg games
National Draft pick 3034 drafts60 avg games
National Draft pick 3134 drafts62 avg games
National Draft pick 3234 drafts65 avg game
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So it's kinda for picks 1 to 5 your on a winner - after that it gets a bit more difficult and starts to drop away.
 
Dylan12 said:
I thought Sam was too vanilla and not damaging enough for most on here?
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Sorry mate, but I think you're absolutely misremembering things. I remember the majority on here quite excited by the prospect of drafting. It's possible that as the year went on and we started winning a few games at the same time as Walsh's stocks improving, a few may have started talking him down to lessen their emotional loss at not being able to draft him.
 
The Flying Belgian said:
Sorry mate, but I think you're absolutely misremembering things. I remember the majority on here quite excited by the prospect of drafting. It's possible that as the year went on and we started winning a few games at the same time as Walsh's stocks improving, a few may have started talking him down to lessen their emotional loss at not being able to draft him.
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I think you are too; mate.
 
The Flying Belgian said:
Sorry mate, but I think you're absolutely misremembering things. I remember the majority on here quite excited by the prospect of drafting. It's possible that as the year went on and we started winning a few games at the same time as Walsh's stocks improving, a few may have started talking him down to lessen their emotional loss at not being able to draft him.
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Would love to get Sam Walsh to the Lions.
If getting his Brother here in anyway helps that cause? Why not?
 

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