Ok. Now, does every LTI mean a new spot on the list, or just that a rookie can be promoted? Is our one extra spot really a rookie vacancy which can become a senior spot due to the LTI?
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Jimmae
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Kemp would be stuck on the LTI list until another LTI, so I'd imagine that would prevent him from playing at all.
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Well usually a promoted rookie goes back to the rookie list when the LTI returns. But that implies your total player number has to be within a limit.
Jimmae
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Correct, and at that point we would now have an extra active player.
Imagine getting brought in for 4-6 weeks, then twiddling your thumbs for the next 12.
Too bad, they then play for the Bullants. It's a bit of a false dilemma considering they might not get placed on an AFL list at all. I was also under the impression you could now deactivate a player for the remainder of the year without them having to have any injury.
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We have 45 total and the maximum is 47?
Jimmae
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It's 44 between the primary list and the category A rookie list, then up to 3 category B rookies.
We cannot have 45 active players.
That would then be a mechanism to stack your VFL side... that won't happen, and the players wouldn't agree to come here just to get to use the resources for a month.
If contracts were more flexible top to bottom, maybe, but even then you'd have people who wouldn't sign without way better guarantees. The AFL would need to create an inactive component of the roster and then increase the salary cap quite substantially to make that happen.
Frankly, with the minds and parties involved, the AFL is not a big enough game to make that happen the way you'd like it to (and I'd make an argument that it would hurt the development of talent unless you then moved to a US system where draftees would typically be 21-23).
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He'd be my pick.. good skills, quick, courageous and versatile... unlucky with injuries, still only 23yrs...
LTI means that Owies can play as a Cat B, without a LTI he is restricted to the VFL. Rookies (A) can play at any stage of the year.
I think you are going off on a bit of a tangent Jimmae, no one is suggesting it would be limitless and what is this 'four weeks' thing you speak of?
Why not?
If it takes till the 1st week of July to have confidence/strength/fitness, that's only 8 week before the end of the year, what's the hurry.
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C’mon Crippa - if it’d be so bloody hard to leave, sign the damn extension already!!!
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Of the four, I'd be picking between him and Moore. I prefer Moore because he can do the spectacular, but they're both much better options than we should be used to seeing this time of year.
Moore you can just about play anywhere on the field, and I'm honestly shocked that Richmond let him go, unless he has been fielding better offers since before then. Though Richmond do have a crazy amount of athleticism on their list.
That's a worst case scenario, and you're then asking a kid to put himself on ice for 3 months, and not kick a ball in anger for a total duration of 18 months for what is probably a 10-11 month injury. That's nuts.
With Docherty, it was what... 1-2 full games in the end had he resumed? Different scenario here, so it just seems cruel to not give the kid a reward for all the hard work.
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is moore kelvin's son/nephew/bridesmaid?
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I’m pretty sure he’s Darcy Moore’s kid.
His old man hasnt played enough games for Collingwood yet, so they couldn’t claim him under F/S.
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C’mon Crippa - if it’d be so bloody hard to leave, sign the damn extension already!!!
Any chance in an outline for this...
Though I believe winning will play a big part in any re-signing for the big fella.
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Agree with the first part - they're the two I'm more interested in. That being said...Cunico has been picked up by the Northern Blues, so if we're not expecting him to play seniors anyway I'd be happy to leave him on the NB's list where he'll be playing, and add Moore to the list so we've got the extra body (and deny Coburg his services). Think Webb and Sturgess have upside, happy to try and get them on the NBs list if there's room and they can be considered again in the mid-season draft depending on the state of the list.
On Kemp - I can see the argument either way. If the club are confident he'd be 100% right to play the last, say, 6 weeks of the season, you probably want to give him that opportunity. And he'd likely be champing at the bit. But if Russell aproached him and said "Mate, we're going to hold you out of the side at the back end of the year, and I'm going to give you an extra pre-season before the actual preseason so you can give yourself every chance of playing AFL footy in Round 1, 2021"....I think he could be swayed. Let him recover at a conservative pace, then really build him up through August/September, let him have a little break with the boys after that, then come back into the pre-season proper with some really good conditioning under his belt.
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Bit a conspiracy theory...
Kemp before being drafted said (paraphrase) 'I'd love to get back to playing ASAP, but I would understand some clubs might want me to sit out all of next year'.
I wonder if Carlton was very confident it would land Kemp and had pre-warned him that we would place him on the LTI list....
Kemp before being drafted said (paraphrase) 'I'd love to get back to playing ASAP, but I would understand some clubs might want me to sit out all of next year'.
I wonder if Carlton was very confident it would land Kemp and had pre-warned him that we would place him on the LTI list....
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Cripps: “it would be bloody hard to leave”
Me: "Not as hard as it would be to watch you leave"
This. A gifted athlete but limited footballer. Doesn't play like a key position player and is a shocking set shot. Can't see him being anything more than solid depth for you guys.
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