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2020 Non-Crows AFL Discussion Part 2
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Balme must think he has a chance....let's not forget Tom Lynch and Trent Cotchin's record with this AFL joke set up.
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
That was never happening. Gooch was a back end of the 1st round prospect.
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Ha, Karen Cornes.
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Cornes said that the Crows may be the worst club in 50 or 60 years...Fitzroy and Sydney were much worse for a lot longer.
Definitely worse for longer. I'm not sure that they were actually worse than we are now though.
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1995-96 Fitzroy team won 3 of 44 and had an average losing margin of 60 pts. We're shit but we have a fair way to go to be that bad.
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We're worse because our issues are self inflicted. Roo, Chapman and Fagan should hang their heads in shame.
Golumless
A bigger deal out west.
Every terrible team in the league is self-inflicted.
Even as much as the AFL weren't helping Fitzroy in the 90s, there were paths they had to survive. After all, North Melbourne, Western Bulldogs, Melbourne and Hawthorn managed to do that despite the real threat of potential mergers.
We're 0-16 since 3rd July 2019, with a percentage of 57.39%. Given that the scoring this year has been the lowest in living memory, I'd say we're in the same ballpark as that Fitzroy team - arguably less successful, given that they won 3 games.
Adelaide's 2020 season is on par with the worst season by any club, in the last 70 years. The only difference between Adelaide and the likes of Melbourne, Fitzroy & Carlton, is that we haven't sustained this level of shiteness for anywhere near as long as they did.
So has the shorter quarters helped or hindered us? Margins not as bad as they could have been, but less "match practice" so to speak to improve faster?
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He probably thinks the rules don't apply to him because of the club he plays for... Which is probably a fair enough assumption to make for him.
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Remind me what the global pandemic was that happened in 1995 that forced Fitzroy to not train in groups larger then 9 players when they were trying to implement a new game plan with half their usual coaching staff?
Was it The Apples and Oranges flu?
It's a unique season. Even going winless doesn't have the same connotations that it does in a normal year, given that it's only 0-17 not 0-22.
There is little doubt that the shorter quarters have saved us from much bigger losses. Most of our players are gassed after 3x 16-min quarters. They'd be barely able to stand up on their own, if they were forced to play 4x 20-min quarters.
The inability to train as a whole group, and to play the non-selected team members in the SANFL, have no doubt hurt us - but they're not an excuse for saying that we're better than 95-96 Fitzroy.
Anyone who thinks that the 2020 team isn't as bad as 95-96 Fitzroy is kidding themselves. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Adelaide were always going to be this bad, regardless of COVID. Have you forgotten how we finished the 2019 season?
COVID has given us shorter quarters, which has probably resulted in us having a For-Against record 5-10% better than it would have been if we'd been playing full 20-min quarters.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. We really are this bad. Acceptance is the 5th stage of grief. It appears you haven't moved beyond the 3rd stage yet (bargaining). Don't worry, you'll catch up to the rest of us eventually.
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A bigger deal out west.
Actually, not necessarily. In part because our scoring would pick up with a full game and plus, it's also rather likely the shorter quarters are allowing players to go 100% for longer periods of time. It's probably realistic to expect our percentage wouldn't change that heavily, just that the defeats would be larger due to both sides scoring more.
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We're bad, there's no denying it. But comparing us to other bad teams in history, its nonsense, there's literally no point.
Every team in every league in every sport will have an astrix next to the 2020 season. Not just the AFL premier. You're wasting your time!
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Our players are gassed after 3x 16-min quarters, and most of them can barely walk half-way through the 4th quarter. There's nothing to suggest that this is caused by them going 100% for longer, and everything to suggest that they're just plain unfit.
Teams are regularly walking all over us after half-time, and its a ritual slaughter every week in the final quarter. Adelaide has been competitive until half-time in many games this season. 3rd quarters have generally been bad. 4th quarters would be less embarrassing if they went straight to the change rooms during the final break, and left the opposition to play the final quarter on their own.
If we had full-length quarters, teams would be running all over us even more than they are now. Those 3-goal to zip last quarters (e.g. Geelong) and 7-goals to 1 last quarters (Melbourne & North Melbourne) would be even worse. Things are ugly now - they could be so, so, so much uglier if we had to play 4x 20-min quarters.
Yes, 2020 will have a huge asterisk next to it. That doesn't alter the fact that the 2020 Adelaide Crows team is historically bad, on par with any of the worst teams of the last 60 years.
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Player driven...lol. Aren't they already doing this?
Here's a guaranteed way to eliminate it immediately - Minimum suspension for 3 weeks for any staging.
Done, dusted. No more problem.
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GC and GWS were as bad as us in their first years too
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There is literally not a single way you can know that, and that’s the point. This year is completely unprecedented, and no-one, not you or I, or anyone else has any idea what would have happened in regular circumstances.
And pretending you would based off how we’ve gone after the event is utterly useless and has no foundation of truth outside of your basic opinion.
But if this is the mountain you want to plant your flag on be my guest. But just know it’s complete nonsense
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Maybe we are going for Ali vs Frazier tactic (or Homer vs Tatum) of letting the oppo tire themselves out kicking goals against us, just to pounce in red time with 5 quick counter scores, but we run out of time.
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