List Mgmt. 2020 Young Talent time

[apuchar]

Callow is getting spoken about as a defender at AFL level. Chapman obviously as well.

I think Cox (if we think he can fwd/ruck), Baldwin, Neale should be where we look.

After the Jesse thing I wonder if we have the guts to take a risk on someone like Baldwin?

 

[Dockeroo]

Callow is getting spoken about as a defender at AFL level. Chapman obviously as well.

I think Cox (if we think he can fwd/ruck), Baldwin, Neale should be where we look.

Would be a massive gamble with Baldwin. Have we the stomach for that after the hogan debacle?

We have sort of painted ourselves into a corner again, a couple of injuries to our KP's and another season derailed.
Chapman, Reid, etc, or cross fingers a late pick and someone is still on the table.
Not ideal and limits your choices, and puts the spotlight on previous poor drafting.

To be fair the drafting has been excellent on the whole since 2014 actually, when we took Weller, Blakely, Langdon and Hughes.
Its the botched Hogan trade that has painted us into this position.Even if we’d taken Ben King

34

Ben King

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

2years ago instead of Hogan and he asked for a trade home now, we would have got pick 2 in return I reckon and replaced him with Logan McDonald or Thilthorpe. Instead we have pick 54

 

[Joao]

After the Jesse thing I wonder if we have the guts to take a risk on someone like Baldwin?

Would be a massive gamble with Baldwin. Have we the stomach for that after the hogan debacle?

Probably not at 12 but definitely with our 2nd if we got to use it.

I am usually wildly against trading down but this year I think it makes sense. Swap 12 for 18+22 or something and take 2 of the KPFs including Baldwin.

 

[george2]

Probably not at 12 but definitely with our 2nd if we got to use it.

I am usually wildly against trading down but this year I think it makes sense. Swap 12 for 18+22 or something and take 2 of the KPFs including Baldwin.

I’m still holding on to the chance of getting Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

. My ideal trade would be for us to trade our first pick for Clark and a pick in the early 20’s, hoping Geelong need more picks to get Cameron and also need to clear salary cap space for him. Then we use our first pick in the early 20’s on a KPF, maybe Baldwin is worth the gamble at that pick?

 

[Joao]

I’m still holding on to the chance of getting Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

. My ideal trade would be for us to trade our first pick for Clark and a pick in the early 20’s, hoping Geelong need more picks to get Cameron and also need to clear salary cap space for him. Then we use our first pick in the early 20’s on a KPF, maybe Baldwin is worth the gamble at that pick?

Clark doesn't look likely. If he can't crack the team this year then I think he might seek opportunity elsewhere. I think its best for all that he tries to break into the team in 2021 and reassess.

I'd gamble on Baldwin anything after first round, just because of desperation but I would definitely pick up at least one more KPF prospect with him, even if it is late.

 

[george2]

Clark doesn't look likely. If he can't crack the team this year then I think he might seek opportunity elsewhere. I think its best for all that he tries to break into the team in 2021 and reassess.

I'd gamble on Baldwin anything after first round, just because of desperation but I would definitely pick up at least one more KPF prospect with him, even if it is late.

I think we need to pick up a KPF/ruck with a pick as well as a KPF, we have less ruck depth than we do KPF depth

 

[Cesoir]

After the Jesse thing I wonder if we have the guts to take a risk on someone like Baldwin?

Excuse my ignorance, but what's the issue with Baldwin?

 

[apuchar]

Excuse my ignorance, but what's the issue with Baldwin?

ACL followed by a partial tear.

 

[Vimal Anand]

Yes.... baldwin worth the risk... hogan case risk was not the issue but the cost was... as you said one more kpf like neale or ollie lord would be good. If Cameron deal doesn't go through geelong may take lord with late pick? He is the grandson of their 1963 premiership player and brownlow medallist Allaister Lord. Chris 25 rate him highly.....

Clark doesn't look likely. If he can't crack the team this year then I think he might seek opportunity elsewhere. I think its best for all that he tries to break into the team in 2021 and reassess.

I'd gamble on Baldwin anything after first round, just because of desperation but I would definitely pick up at least one more KPF prospect with him, even if it is late.

On SM-A205YN using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[arsesmart]

I’m still holding on to the chance of getting Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

. My ideal trade would be for us to trade our first pick for Clark and a pick in the early 20’s, hoping Geelong need more picks to get Cameron and also need to clear salary cap space for him. Then we use our first pick in the early 20’s on a KPF, maybe Baldwin is worth the gamble at that pick?

Picks alone won't do it in the Cameron trade, GWS want players. If Geelong can't persuade any of their own players to go, then they'd need to go a multiple club trade. It's a pity we didn't have any currency GWS may want so as to get involved in that.

 

[apuchar]

Think Shannon Neale trained with us. We would know what he has got.

 

[Dockeroo]

Excuse my ignorance, but what's the issue with Baldwin?

Had an ACL on one knee, and then came back and had a partial tear of an ACL on the other knee (interestingly I’ve never really heard of a “partial” ACL tear).
Based on talent would be ranked similar to Logan McD and Thilthorpe as a 16 year old..
If he stays healthy and get ms back to pre injury form someone will have a bargain.
Hard not to get an Alex Johnson

Alex Johnson

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

111.5

2star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

/morabito feeling from him though.. some guys bodies just aren’t cut out for it unfortunately

 

[Vimal Anand]

Twomey rate him.highly I think

Think Shannon Neale trained with us. We would know what he has got.

On SM-A205YN using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Scham]

I think we need to pick up a KPF/ruck with a pick as well as a KPF, we have less ruck depth than we do KPF depth

Yep. We somehow need to get another second rounder. Take Reid or Cox with our first (think we'll need to be inside pick 18 to get one of them) and then Neale.

 

[Joao]

I think we need to pick up a KPF/ruck with a pick as well as a KPF, we have less ruck depth than we do KPF depth

We have 3 rucks which I think is fine. The obvious problem is that Lobb is in both groups. He basically can't get injured and always seems to.

Yes.... baldwin worth the risk... hogan case risk was not the issue but the cost was... as you said one more kpf like neale or ollie lord would be good. If Cameron deal doesn't go through geelong may take lord with late pick? He is the grandson of their 1963 premiership player and brownlow medallist Allaister Lord. Chris 25 rate him highly.....

On SM-A205YN using BigFooty.com mobile app

I don't know much about most players this year especially anyone outside pick 30 or so. No doubt there is some value to find.

 

[apuchar]

Seems odd that Matt Balmer would suggest Hollands or Bruhn for our first pick. Bruhn a slight chance but Hollands, none surely. God, what a dream come true

edit Hollands knee so maybe

 

[Scham]

Seems odd that Matt Balmer would suggest Hollands or Bruhn for our first pick. Bruhn a slight chance but Hollands, none surely. God, what a dream come true

edit Hollands knee so maybe

Who's Matt Balmer?

 

[wayToGo_]

Who's Matt Balmer?

Draft guy from FoxSports. Was on BigFooty as bishop.

 

[E Shed]

Yeah I'm on the Eddie Ford bandwagon. Him, Sturt, Henry and Freddy and throw a couple of tall blokes in.

 

[apuchar]

Draft guy from FoxSports. Was on BigFooty as bishop.

Ta.

 

[Walkingwounded]

ACL followed by a partial tear.

X 2

 

[Walkingwounded]

Had an ACL on one knee, and then came back and had a partial tear of an ACL on the other knee (interestingly I’ve never really heard of a “partial” ACL tear).
Based on talent would be ranked similar to Logan McD and Thilthorpe as a 16 year old..
If he stays healthy and get ms back to pre injury form someone will have a bargain.
Hard not to get an Alex Johnson

Alex Johnson

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

111.5

2star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

/morabito feeling from him though.. some guys bodies just aren’t cut out for it unfortunately

I’ve not aware of any player that has done 2 ACL’s and has not lost pace, side ways movement or vertical leap.

Please post exception to this as I would be interested to know as someone who personally has done 2 x ACL.

 

[Dockeroo]

I’ve not aware of any player that has done 2 ACL’s and has not lost pace, side ways movement or vertical leap.

Please post exception to this as I would be interested to know as someone who personally has done 2 x ACL.

I think you are probably correct. The risk is too great. If we were using a rookie pick then maybe.

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

I think you are probably correct. The risk is too great. If we were using a rookie pick then maybe.

Though they were PCLs I aways think of Michael Apeness, came with a dodgy knee, then left PC then right.

 

[Big Flappy]

I’ve not aware of any player that has done 2 ACL’s and has not lost pace, side ways movement or vertical leap.

Please post exception to this as I would be interested to know as someone who personally has done 2 x ACL.

nic Nat