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List Mgmt. 2020 Young Talent time

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Who do you want with our first pick?

  • Heath Chapman

    Votes: 23 16.7%

  • Nik Cox

    Votes: 46 33.3%

  • Jack Carrol

    Votes: 10 7.2%

  • Archie Perkins

    Votes: 16 11.6%

  • Zach Reid

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Oliver Henry

    Votes: 12 8.7%

  • Nathan O'Driscoll

    Votes: 14 10.1%

  • Zane Trew

    Votes: 3 2.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 13 9.4%
  • Total voters
    138

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tonygeeks said:
Your picks aren’t set in stone , I would give up Cerra for O Allen or Naughton any day

This isn’t being a hindsight hero every year I say trade down grab WA kids



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I wouldn't Cerra is gonna be a jet and we have a good chance of securing one of the young WA KPF we missed out on for example I could see us doing a player swap of Cox for Georgiades in the future if he develops well.

We also don't know if Cox will actually become a good forward in the future.
 
Taylor how do we take 4 players with 3 picks?

Meanwhile Fremantle football manager Peter Bell remains open to the possibility of swapping draft picks with AFL rivals in the lead up to the national draft but is realistic about what its current draft hand will allow it to do.

As it stands the Dockers have picks 12, 32 and the pick 55 they received from Greater Western Syndey for Jesse Hogan.

Barring an unexpected offer from a rival, the club’s priority is likely to be finding two youngsters with their first two picks and being able to draft Next Generation Academy prospects Brandon Walker and Joel Western.
 
Carnthedockers said:
Taylor how do we take 4 players with 3 picks?

Meanwhile Fremantle football manager Peter Bell remains open to the possibility of swapping draft picks with AFL rivals in the lead up to the national draft but is realistic about what its current draft hand will allow it to do.

As it stands the Dockers have picks 12, 32 and the pick 55 they received from Greater Western Syndey for Jesse Hogan.

Barring an unexpected offer from a rival, the club’s priority is likely to be finding two youngsters with their first two picks and being able to draft Next Generation Academy prospects Brandon Walker and Joel Western.
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We will be given as many picks at the end of the draft as required to fill our available primary list spots.

12, 32, 55, 102 or whatever it works out to. Then as the other sides have their list lodgements in it will finalise the draft order and all picks that don't have an available spot on the primary list will disappear.

We will end up with something like 12, 32, 55, 70
 

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maccamk said:
There could be as few as 40 picks this year


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I’ve seen that posted elsewhere, and while I understand the afl has reduced the mandatory pick numbers to 1, 40 doesn’t look plausible to me. Several clubs have multiple first rounders which will all be used. Some clubs are in rebuild mode and will bring in more than 1 fresh face. There are significant f/s and NGA selections.

Mind you, if it does only go to 40 we will do well, and would hope that we may see Western on the rookie list for free and take someone like Baldwin or Neale with our last selection.
 
theGav56 said:
I’ve seen that posted elsewhere, and while I understand the afl has reduced the mandatory pick numbers to 1, 40 doesn’t look plausible to me. Several clubs have multiple first rounders which will all be used. Some clubs are in rebuild mode and will bring in more than 1 fresh face. There are significant f/s and NGA selections.

Mind you, if it does only go to 40 we will do well, and would hope that we may see Western on the rookie list for free and take someone like Baldwin or Neale with our last selection.
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If the talk of supplementary drafts during the season comes to fruition then it might be better to leave the list spots free and if there are some well performing U19s then pick them up at that time, with some form under their belt, rather than next month with less confidence.
 
Taylor said:
If the talk of supplementary drafts during the season comes to fruition then it might be better to leave the list spots free and if there are some well performing U19s then pick them up at that time, with some form under their belt, rather than next month with less confidence.
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There is definitely an argument for that, but the club would already have a strong opinion about a player like Neale, and if we like him, we have the opportunity to grabs him. Obviously someone like Baldwin is different.
 
I wonder how much the extra testing we gave to some victorians last year that didn’t qualify for the combine will factor in to our decision making for our late/rookie picks

I have this feeling that we’re going to draft someone completely out of the blue whether it be Ryan Kemp (small forward from Werribee) or Jack Sarcevic (Honestly no clue what kind of player he is, but we did give him some extra testing last year)
 
tonygeeks said:
Your picks aren’t set in stone , I would give up Cerra for O Allen or Naughton any day

This isn’t being a hindsight hero every year I say trade down grab WA kids



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I was surprised we didn't get Naughton with pick 5 given he was number 1 West Australian in the draft that year and a key position player we needed.
Rumours circling about Cerra going back home his first year, we'll need significant success to keep him for a long time.
 
Taylor said:
If the talk of supplementary drafts during the season comes to fruition then it might be better to leave the list spots free and if there are some well performing U19s then pick them up at that time, with some form under their belt, rather than next month with less confidence.
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We'd have to be relying on not doing very well next year for that to be a decent strategy as the lowest on the ladder at that time gets priority on whatever players clubs nominate and I could see a few of the weaker team taking this strategy into next year.
 
GREENESHOOTS said:
I was surprised we didn't get Naughton with pick 5 given he was number 1 West Australian in the draft that year and a key position player we needed.
Rumours circling about Cerra going back home his first year, we'll need significant success to keep him for a long time.
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And significant coin


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1. Western Bulldogs - Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs Next-Generation Academy - matching Adelaide's bid)
Height, Weight: 194cm, 84kg
Profile: Ugle-Hagan is unstoppable when launching at the football aerially, timing his jumps to perfection, leaping high and protecting the ball drop in the air so he can't be spoiled. Ugle-Hagan is the most unstoppable inside 50 threat that we've seen for his age and has the most diverse number of ways of taking advantage of opposition defenders.
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan is the consensus No. 1 pick. Martin Keep/AFL Photos via Getty Images
2. Adelaide - Riley Thilthorpe
Height, Weight: 200cm, 99kg
Profile: Featuring in the 'bests' in five of nine matches in the SANFL, Thilthorpe has the performances on the board against senior SANFL opposition. Thilthorpe combines a strong overhead mark with ground level craft and incredible acceleration and athleticism for someone his height and size.
3. North Melbourne - Logan McDonald
Height, Weight: 196cm, 85kg
Profile: Leading the goalkicking for much of the year in the WAFL, McDonald secured a position in the WAFL Team of the Year. Combine his performances on the board with his meteoric rate of improvement and McDonald has the scope to become one of the premier key forwards in the competition.
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4. Sydney - Denver Grainger-Barras
Height, Weight: 195cm, 78kg
Profile: This year's top key defender, Grainger-Barras is athletic and impressive both as a stopper and intercept mark. His game in the WAFL against Perth key forward Logan McDonald solidified his standing as one of the best in this draft pool - when moved onto McDonald in the third quarter he either won each one-on-one contest, spoiled or took the intercept mark when they were matched up.
5. Sydney - Braeden Campbell (Sydney Academy - matching Hawthorn's bid)
Height, Weight: 181cm, 72kg
Profile: The best kick in the pool, Campbell combines run and carry with ball in hand, contested ball-winning capabilities and aggressive tackles. Campbell, who is one of the most advanced prospects in the pool, possesses the versatility to play midfield, back or forward and was awarded player of the match during the Under-17 All-Star match in 2019.
Braeden Campbell is a Swans academy product. Mark Metcalfe/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
6. Hawthorn - Elijah Hollands
Height, Weight: 188cm, 85kg
Profile: A talented forward and midfielder, Hollands is arguably the highest impact-per-possession player in the pool. His penetrating kick, aggressive run and carry, evasion and influence when used forward of centre as either a marking target or with his ground level craft, make him a weapon.
7. Port Adelaide - Lachlan Jones (Port Adelaide - Next-Generation Academy - matching Gold Coast's bid)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 88kg
Profile: Powerful, explosive, long-kicking defender who showed he can shut down opponents at SANFL league level. Jones is a Round 1-ready defender and in the future can develop into a midfielder with his power and contested ball-winning capabilities suggesting he could play through there and become among this draft's most influential.

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8. Gold Coast - Will Phillips
Height, Weight: 180cm, 79kg
Profile: Phillips is the premier inside midfielder in this draft pool with his performances during the 2019 NAB League finals rivalling the top midfielders in last year's draft. He combines contested ball-winning with aggressive tackling, effective distribution by hand and explosive run to impact games.
9. Essendon - Tanner Bruhn
Height, Weight: 182cm, 73kg
Profile: Missing most of the 2019 season due to injury, Bruhn was the Under-16 Vic Country MVP in 2018 and has a strong history of junior performance. Bruhn is a smart midfielder who uses the ball effectively by hand and foot, hits the scoreboard and wins a high percentage of ball in contested situations.

10. Essendon - Zach Reid
Height, Weight: 202cm, 82kg
Profile: A versatile tall who, with his leap and excellent endurance, can play through the ruck but has to date played his best football in defence. Reid is one of the best kicks for someone over two metres we've seen, and has shown glimpses to suggest that he may develop one-on-one and as an interceptor.
11. Essendon - Archie Perkins
Height, Weight: 186cm, 77kg
Profile: Damaging utility who plays a high-impact-per-possession game. Perkins generates meaningful drive with ball in hand, taking on the game with his run and carry. He lowers his eyes and hits inside 50 targets and provides a potent marking target inside 50.
12. Adelaide - Brayden Cook
Height, Weight: 189cm, 80kg
Profile: A draft bolter who has broken out this year after growing 7cm over the past 12 months, Cook possesses the versatility to play forward, back or on a wing. Averaging two goals per game in the SANFL Under 18s, Cook is an effective finisher around goal and an athletic forward who is a strong overhead mark and does his best work aerially.
13. GWS - Heath Chapman
Height, Weight: 193cm, 81kg
Profile: Tall intercepting defender with impressive rebounding capabilities. Chapman is a precise kick, strong intercept mark and an excellent athlete for someone his height with his endurance, mobility and leap all features.
Heath Chapman in action during the Western Australia AFL Draft All Stars game in October. Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
14. North Melbourne - Finlay Macrae
Height, Weight: 184cm, 75kg
Profile: Younger brother of Western Bulldogs star Jack Macrae, Finlay plays stylistically a near identical game with the main difference being that he's not as tall. A classy midfielder, he displays rare evasion and composure with ball in hand while possessing the capacity to play either inside or outside.
15. Fremantle - Nik Cox
Height, Weight: 199cm, 82kg
Profile: Athletic and versatile enough to play key forward, key defence or on a wing, Cox is unique tall with high upside. Cox is an elite endurance runner with impressive skills and decision making, a strong overhead mark and good ground level craft.
16. GWS - Oliver Henry
Height, Weight: 188cm, 76kg
Profile: Younger brother of Geelong's Jack Henry, Oliver Henry is a medium marking type with the capabilities to play either forward or in defence. Oliver is impressive aerially and is effective both behind the ball as an intercept mark or up forward with his work on the lead.
17. Collingwood - Jack Carroll
Height, Weight: 188cm, 79kg
Profile: One of the youngest in this draft pool, Carroll is a classy midfielder who has transitioned from more of an outside midfielder or back flanker previously into a genuine inside midfielder. Carroll has improved rapidly this year, developing a potent contested side to his game, and winning a high percentage of ball in contested situations, mixing that with agility, evasion and effective ball use.
18. Greater Western Sydney - Nathan O'Driscoll
Height, Weight: 187cm, 76kg
Profile: Playing WAFL League football this year for Perth, O'Driscoll has shown the capacity to play inside, outside or on a back flank. O'Driscoll attacks the ball aggressively, tackles to hurt, demonstrates a high work rate, provides outside run and carry and has a penetrating kick.
Nathan O'Driscoll during his 20 metre sprint test. Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
19. Collingwood - Bailey Laurie
Height, Weight: 178cm, 76kg
Profile: With impressive speed, agility and evasion, Laurie impacts games as a small forward who can push through the midfield for periods. While his movement stands out, he lowers his eyes and finds inside 50m targets by foot, is an excellent front-and-centre crumber and provides second and third tackle efforts.
20. Collingwood - Reef McInnes (Collingwood Next-Generation Academy - matching Richmond's bid)
Height, Weight: 192cm, 84kg
Profile: Despite playing predominantly in defence in 2019, McInnes is an intriguing prospect as a tall midfielder who can also impact games forward of centre. With a December birthday and limited midfield opportunity in 2019 for a loaded Oakleigh side, he possesses substantial scope to improve, possessing a desirable mix of speed, agility, ball-winning and overhead marking.
Reef McInnes of the Chargers is one of this year's most exciting prospects. Daniel Pockett/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
21. Richmond - Tom Powell
Height, Weight: 180cm, 73kg
Profile: A prolific ball-winning midfielder, Powell won the McCallum Tomkins Medal as the best player in the SANFL Under-18s. Powell is one of this draft's most productive and elite stoppage players with his contested ball-winning and distribution by hand his standout features.
22. Sydney - Errol Gulden (Sydney Academy - matching Melbourne's bid)
Height, Weight: 171cm, 71kg
Profile: A small outside midfielder and forward, Gulden is one of the better performed in this pool. A precise kick by foot, especially going inside 50m, along with his one-touch pickups, speed, agility, crumbing and scoreboard impact.
23. Melbourne - Sam Berry
Height, Weight: 181cm, 83kg
Profile: Winning a high proportion of the ball in contested situations, Berry plays with aggression and tackles strongly. He balances the aggression with acceleration out of stoppages, reliable distribution by hand, composure with ball in hand and precise kick placement out in front of leading inside 50m targets.
24. Melbourne - Isiah Winder
Height, Weight: 180cm, 79kg
Profile: An athletic utility, Winder tested strongly at the WA draft combine across the board. While super athletic with his speed and leap in particular exceptional, Winder combines this with strong hands overhead, one-touch ground level skills and excellent composure and placement of kicks out in front of inside 50m targets to lead onto.
Isiah Winder carries the ball during the Western Australia AFL Draft All Stars game. Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
25. Fremantle - Brandon Walker (Fremantle - Next-Generation Academy - matching Greater Western Sydney's bid)
Height, Weight: 184cm, 75kg
Profile: Damaging with ball in hand, Walker plays with an explosive power to his game and generates meaningful drive off half-back. Walker routinely takes on the game bursting away and providing meaningful run and carry, sidestepping, evading and fending-off opponents, he also possesses a penetrating kick and often takes high flying intercept marks.
26. GWS - Jake Bowey
Height, Weight: 175cm, 66kg
Profile: Bowey is a small with the versatility to play midfield, forward or back. He shows composure with ball in hand, provides run and carry, sidesteps opponents with ease and has impressive speed, agility, evasion and ground ball winning capabilities.
27. St Kilda - Zavier Maher
Height, Weight: 184cm, 83kg
Profile: Maher is a damaging midfielder who plays a high-impact-per-possession game. While he doesn't find as much of the ball as many predicted to go before him, he can win his own ball and displays a high work rate, bursts away at speed with ball in hand and lowers his eyes and hits inside 50 targets by foot.
28. Adelaide - Corey Durdin
Height, Weight: 172cm, 74kg
Profile: Speedy, small goalkicking forward with SANFL League performances behind him. Durdin's forward pressure, ground level craft, run-and-dare and ball use make him one of the most Round 1-ready prospects in the pool.
Corey Durdin in action for South Australia. Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
29. Adelaide - Caleb Poulter
Height, Weight: 191cm, 77kg
Profile: Poulter is a rapidly developing tall midfielder who plays a high-impact-per-possession game and is highly productive. His long kick, explosive speed and strong overhead marking are features of his game and while the hope is he will develop into a tall midfielder, he can also impact games forward of centre.
30. Essendon - Cody Brand (Essendon Next-Generation Academy - matching Hawthorn's bid)
Height, Weight: 195cm, 85kg
Profile: Brand is a shutdown key defender who blends a mix of one-on-one strength with good athleticism. He's also versatile; in one game last year he played forward and kicked three goals.
31. Hawthorn - Max Heath
Height, Weight: 202cm, 89kg
Profile: A project ruckman who spent most of 2019 playing APS Football for Xavier College and has just one NAB League game behind. He has risen up draft boards this year on the back of rapid preseason improvement, so much so that despite the NAB League not going ahead, many recruiters believe Heath may be this year's best ruck prospect.
32. Hawthorn - Connor Downie (Hawthorn - Next-Generation Academy - matching Brisbane's bid)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 83kg
Profile: Doing his best work on the outside, Downie is one of the most damaging footballers in this draft. He is a damaging 55m kick and combines that with a desirable mix of agility, evasion and line-breaking speed.
Connor Downie in action for Eastern Ranges. Martin Keep/AFL Photos via Getty Images
33. Brisbane - Zac Dumesny
Height, Weight: 187cm, 80kg
Profile: Versatile outside midfielder who got a taste for SANFL League competition with six senior games. Dumesny is a composed and reliable ball user, a strong overhead mark and reads the game well.
34. Gold Coast - Eddie Ford
Height, Weight: 188cm, 79kg
Profile: An athletic utility, Ford has the scope to play forward, midfield or in defence. Possessing an impressive vertical leap, Ford is an aerial marking threat and combines this with agility, evasion, class and composure with ball in hand.
35. Fremantle - Joel Western (Fremantle - Next-Generation Academy - matching Melbourne's bid)
Height, Weight: 172cm, 68kg
Profile: A small midfielder with impressive acceleration and burst out of stoppages. Western is highly productive and his play has a distinctively clean, silky and instinctive feel.
36. Melbourne - Matt Allison
Height, Weight: 192cm, 80kg
Profile: Allison is a strong-marking tall forward who reads the ball well in flight and possesses excellent endurance. Matt is the son of Coburg VFA Team of the Century player, Brian Allison.
37. GWS - Nick Stevens
Height, Weight: 192cm, 84kg
Profile: Stevens is a tall rebounding defender possessing a promising mix of speed and endurance, a penetrating kick and strong ball-winning capabilities. With the contested side to his game solid, in addition to his athletic profile, Stevens possesses future midfield potential.
38. Brisbane - Blake Coleman (Brisbane - Academy - matching North Melbourne's bid)
Height, Weight: 181cm, 79kg
Profile: The younger brother of Brisbane's Keidean Coleman, Blake displays similar potential as a speedy, pressure forward, though is arguable more advanced at the same age. Blake plays a lively style of game and exerts his influence with his forward pressure and tackling but combines this with classy, one-touch pickups off the deck and impressive skills by hand and foot.
Blake Coleman in action last season. Darrian Traynor/AFL Photos via Getty Images
39. North Melbourne - Zane Trew (Essendon - Next-Generation Academy - matching Richmond's bid)
Height, Weight: 187cm, 78kg
Profile: Ball-winning midfielder who does his best work inside. Trew is a strong midfielder who wins contested ball, demonstrates composure in traffic, dishes out effectively by hand and is a strong tackler.
40. Essendon - Josh Eyre (Essendon - Next-Generation Academy - matching Richmond's bid)
Height, Weight: 198cm, 85kg
Profile: A late-blooming key forward who has grown 4cm this year, Eyre is an impressive speed/endurance athlete and high leaper. A strong mark who is an impressive threat aerially, Eyre remains a project player at this stage and is someone, had the season gone ahead, we may be talking about as going even earlier.\ in the draft.
41. Richmond - Kaine Baldwin
Height, Weight: 193cm, 92kg
Profile: Suffering a second season-ending ACL, Baldwin is one of the most exciting players in this year's draft and if not for the second knee injury may have been in the top-10 draft mix. Dominating in the Under 16s, Baldwin has proven he is a strong marking force and damaging close to goal.
42. Gold Coast - Fraser Rosman
Height, Weight: 193cm, 81kg
Profile: A freak athlete at his height, Rosman is an elite speed/endurance athlete achieving 5:52 minutes in the 2km time trial, two seconds off Jay Rantall's draft combine record set last year, while also placing in the top 10 in the 20 metre sprint. Rosman gives recruiters the option either to develop him as a tall wing or key forward.
43. Richmond - Maurice Rioli Jnr (Richmond - Father-Son - matching Carlton's bid)
Height, Weight: 179cm, 75kg
Profile: Son of Indigenous Team of the Century midfielder, Maurice Rioli, Rioli Jnr is arguably the premier pressure forward in this draft with the second and third tackle efforts he applies. Rioli Jnr possesses excellent speed, agility, ground level craft and is an instinctive finisher around goal with an impressive mind to body connection.
Maurice Rioli Jr in action for the NT Thunder. Darrian Traynor/AFL Photos/Getty Images
44. Adelaide - Tariek Newchurch (Adelaide - Next-Generation Academy - matching Carlton's bid)
Height, Weight: 182cm, 77kg
Profile: Newchurch is a crumbing forward with speed, agility and X-factor. Newchurch does his best work at ground level as a one-touch forward and is a damaging ball user both hitting targets but also finishing around goal.
45. Carlton - Conor Stone
Height, Weight: 188cm, 81kg
Profile: Stone is a medium forward who kicked five goals on debut last year for Oakleigh. He does his best work on the lead inside 50 and enjoys taking on opponents with his run and carry.
46. Adelaide - Luke Edwards (Adelaide - Father-Son - matching North Melbourne's bid)
Height, Weight: 188cm, 83kg
Profile: Earning a SANFL League debut, Luke, son of Tyson, possesses reliable skills and is a capable accumulator and ball-winner. His ball use off half-back has been a strength for a few years now while he has also shown the capability to push up through the midfield.
47. North Melbourne - Harry Sharp
Height, Weight: 184cm, 70kg
Profile: A former junior Australian steeplechase champion, Sharp smashed the AFL Draft Combine 2km time trial record with a 5:28. With a December birthday, Sharp is a young endurance beast who is hoping to develop on a wing and has earned praise for his work ethic and professionalism.
48. Adelaide - Max Holmes
Height, Weight: 189cm, 74kg
Profile: The son of Commonwealth gold medallist and Olympic bronze medallist Lee Naylor, Holmes is an impressive all-around athlete with scintillating speed. He is raw, having played just the one game for Sandringham last year in the NAB League, but the belief within the industry is had the season gone ahead, he would have improved significantly.
What teams without picks inside the first or second round may do with their first selections:
Geelong: Henry Walsh
Height, Weight: 202cm, 86kg
Profile: The younger brother of Carlton's Sam is a raw, long-term prospect. Developing as a ruckman, Walsh shows promise in glimpses and will be looking to become a more frequently influential player in the future.
West Coast: Shannon Neale
Height, Weight: 202cm, 91kg
Profile: Athletic ruckman who has shifted his focus from athletics to football this season. With an excellent leap, endurance and good skills for someone his height, while Neale is still early stages in his development, he has developed rapidly which suggests significant upside for the future.
Gold Coast pre-draft selections:

Alex Davies (Gold Coast - Academy)
Height, Weight: 192cm, 85kg
Profile: Davies is a tall ball-winning midfielder who represented Queensland as a basketballer at Under 16 level and if not for Gold Coast's opportunity to add talent straight from their Academy as pre-draft selections, may have been a first round choice. With strong contested ball-winning capabilities, Davies is a strong tackler, possesses impressive evading capabilities and is effective with his distribution by hand.
Joel Jeffrey (Gold Coast - Northern Territory Zone)
Height, Weight: 192cm, 80kg
Profile: Jeffrey is another player who qualifies to be pre-drafted by the Suns, with Gold Coast having first access to Northern Territory talent this year. Jeffrey, who was in the top 15 mix, is an aerial marking threat with his high leap, strong mark and is an influential player at either end of the field who creates separation with ease as a forward and in defence dances around opponents evasively and generates meaningful drive.
Brodie Lake (Gold Coast - Northern Territory Zone)
Height, Weight: 185cm, 79kg
Profile: Starring at the draft combine, Lake impressed in the speed and agility. While eligible to join Gold Coast pre-draft as a Northern Territory talent, Lake this year played SANFL Under 18s for Central Districts where he impressed through the midfield with explosiveness and ball-winning capabilities.
 

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Not sure why WC would take ANOTHER ruckman.. They have 2x developing, + Vardy already.
 
Joao said:
Twomey still doesn't have either of our boys in the top 25.

I've also decided that I really like Cox... Don't even care if he doesn't work out as a forward.
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Crossing fingers on the bids coming mid 2nd round onwards.

I am trying not to jinx the selection of Cox this year :)
 

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