List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

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[Crow till I die]

imagine if horne told north he wants to stay in SA. I guarantee they would b*tch to the afl and the afl would now start calling it draft tampering. its ok if vic kids do it though. it would be a problem because horne is clearly the best player in the draft by a long way.

It would be hilarious if he pulled out the exact same excuse bailey smith did to get to the dogs..and the AFL tried to handle it any differently to how they did with smith. It would be a lawyers field day from horne's perspective

 

[ABAB]

Can’t say I care about another spoon.

What matters is getting out of the quagmire with the best opportunities for success, not crawling out and staying only 2 feet ahead of the mess

Depends on the spoon, 2020* was the wooden spoon*.

 

[ams4crows]

Maybe i misread but i thought you mentioned a pick after our 1st which i took as band 1 but i'll stand corrected if i misread

All good, I did mention it in the sense imagine if it did happened we would be making out like bandits

 

[ABAB]

imagine if horne told north he wants to stay in SA. I guarantee they would b*tch to the afl and the afl would now start calling it draft tampering. its ok if vic kids do it though. it would be a problem because horne is clearly the best player in the draft by a long way.

Not really, Wingard did the same.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Not really, Wingard did the same.

rumours surrounded fog too..

 

[ABAB]

rumours surrounded fog too..

I'm sure someone from GWS confirmed this about Wingard many years later so it wasn't a rumour.

 

[Sanders]

I suppose the point I was trying to make is that just by getting Horne, it is no guarantee that we will win a premiership. Also, how do we know Horne will be better than any of the other top rated mids who are only now starting to get the chance to show how good they are. I would rather not try to get a spoon just on the chance Horne MIGHT be better than other mids in the top 5. Personally I hate..HATE our club being a wooden spooner and that stigma stays forever.

I don’t really see that the stigma exists all that much

Meh.

 

[Crow till I die]

I don’t really see that the stigma exists all that much

Meh.

Fair enough..each to their own I guess. We all have the same hope for the club (except FAITH..he didn't want Thilthorpe )

 

[mattymac]

I don’t really see that the stigma exists all that much

Meh.

West Coast got a spoon in 2010 and picked up Gaff and Darling.

A flag, two grand finals and consistent finalists since then is all anyone remembers.

 

[Crow till I die]

West Coast got a spoon in 2010 and picked up Gaff and Darling.

A flag, two grand finals and consistent finalists since then is all anyone remembers.

they got Gaff at pick 4 and Darling at pick 26..we will have very similar picks if we finish 3rd bottom and avoid the spoon

 

[Shaz2012]

they got Gaff at pick 4 and Darling at pick 26..we will have very similar picks if we finish 3rd bottom and avoid the spoon

Way to miss the point.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

From the mouth of a current AFC players dad whom I’ve gotten good mail from before
“Both Rankine and Lukosious have made it known to AFC, they are keen to get back to SA”

GC are a rabble , Dew has lost some of the players to the point he’s a mockery with his obesity when getting stuck into players about effort
Many senior coaches his age are still in shape

 

[Crow till I die]

Way to miss the point.

What was the point?

 

[1990crow]

From the mouth of a current AFC players dad whom I’ve gotten good mail from before
“Both Rankine and Lukosious have made it known to AFC, they are keen to get back to SA”

GC are a rabble , Dew has lost some of the players to the point he’s a mockery with his obesity when getting stuck into players about effort
Many senior coaches his age are still in shape

Yeah Dew needs to go.
Don't see a way to get Rankine and Lukosius in the one offseason however.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Yeah Dew needs to go.
Don't see a way to get Rankine and Lukosius in the one offseason however.

Think it’ll be staggered
Potentially 1 this year and the other the next
Made the point seems the club are more keen on Luko

 

[WheresGroomgone]

I think Rankine would thrive in the current Adelaide FC - he is a guy that is actually keen on the fan fair and would enjoy the new energised enjoyable atmosphere Nicks has nurtured - very keen to see him and Luko in Crows colours if it's at all possible.

Even if Rankine has been somewhat underperforming this season he would still be an upgrade and will hit his straps at some stage no doubt.

 

[Brett Cummings]

would rather we keep mcrouch than get dumont..

we need classy midfielders.. that aint dumont.

Would rather we get horne and dumont than keep m crouch. Don't forget horne is included in this deal.

 

[Mismatched]

Yeah Dew needs to go.
Don't see a way to get Rankine and Lukosius in the one offseason however.

Can’t see GC letting either go easily, I think we’re more likely to see Dew turfed and the AFL assist in installing a Paul Roos or Ross Lyon to right the ship, plus perhaps with Voss as senior assistant/heir apparent. Then hold both Luko/Rankine to their contracts and hope the new regime could convince them to stay.

The trouble with both Rankine and Luko is making a reasonable deal. They’re both at an awkward point in their value, neither have shown enough to increase their value, Rankines shown his elite talent in patches, but also shown his inconsistencies. Lukosious has been good, but not outstanding to any extent, playing the relatively easy 3rd tall role. Their worth to the GC at present is likely far greater than what any club will be willing to give up:

The trouble is neither satisfies our biggest need of elite midfielders, which are likely available this draft. If GC are interested in Crouch, it may be that we agree not to contest an RFA offer in exchange for Lukoscious —> 2022 1st and one of our 2021 2nds, with the inevitable even ups.

I can’t see GC letting either go though whilst contracted.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Yeah Dew needs to go.
Don't see a way to get Rankine and Lukosius in the one offseason however.

We need rankine more than luko. Our small forwards are pretty meh. Especially mcadam.

 

[Mutineer]

Can’t see GC letting either go easily, I think we’re more likely to see Dew turfed and the AFL assist in installing a Paul Roos or Ross Lyon to right the ship, plus perhaps with Voss as senior assistant/heir apparent. Then hold both Luko/Rankine to their contracts and hope the new regime could convince them to stay.

The trouble with both Rankine and Luko is making a reasonable deal. They’re both at an awkward point in their value, neither have shown enough to increase their value, Rankines shown his elite talent in patches, but also shown his inconsistencies. Lukosious has been good, but not outstanding to any extent, playing the relatively easy 3rd tall role. Their worth to the GC at present is likely far greater than what any club will be willing to give up:

The trouble is neither satisfies our biggest need of elite midfielders, which are likely available this draft. If GC are interested in Crouch, it may be that we agree not to contest an RFA offer in exchange for Lukoscious —> 2022 1st and one of our 2021 2nds, with the inevitable even ups.

I can’t see GC letting either go though whilst contracted.

It would want to be a long and very lucrative deal for any player to want to go up there to that shitshow let alone Matt Crouch whose family and that of his partner are based in Ballarat.

 

[TryAnHit]

The trouble with both Rankine and Luko is making a reasonable deal. They’re both at an awkward point in their value, neither have shown enough to increase their value, Rankines shown his elite talent in patches, but also shown his inconsistencies. Lukosious has been good, but not outstanding to any extent, playing the relatively easy 3rd tall role. Their worth to the GC at present is likely far greater than what any club will be willing to give up:

I can’t see GC letting either go though whilst contracted.

Rankine value has gone down alot. But GC also trying to play him all over the ground and not in the forward line like he should be.

Not sure what you mean luko playing the 3rd tall role? Hes been playing wing / hbf. He's an all star kick and I would think his value has held. Having him deliver into the fwd line would be amazing. He was also a fwd at lower level right? But I think the wing roll suites him fantastic.

But I agree they won't let them go while contracted. I would be more than happy to give up 2021 (if horne was not available / 2022 1sts for both of them. But feels like picks are useless to GC

 

[Deaneus!]

Don't mean to be rude but a 2nd round pick for a much hyped contracted Izak Rankine is just about the most ridiculous post I've seen for quite a while.

Have you stopped reading my posts?

Some people on this board have been posting variants of this theme for as long as I've been on here.

"Early draft picks are no guarantee of success. We should try our best to win every game because that's how you build a successful culture"

History has proven that to be disastrously wrong.

In fact, that way of thinking is how we actually did end up with a wooden spoon.

 

[GreyCrow]

Jason Horne (in Bailey Smiths voice) ' I dont want to go to Melbourne while the current Covid lockdowns are happening , in the event of an emergent Viral strain I want to be close to my family - please dont pick me unless your name starts with Ade''

 

[UcantCme]

On Horne

GC could finish 17th, why wouldn't we consider trading up?

They are on record saying pick 3 is available and they need another forward

We give our pick 5 or 6 packaged with Himmelberg for pick 2

They get another forward and only slide back 3 or 4 picks

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[Mego Red]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' June ranking

Draft guru Cal Twomey has dropped his latest rankings of the 2021 draft pool

www.afl.com.au

Some interesting surprises.

Sonsie down to 11. Draper up to 10, and Hobbs up to 5. Darcy at 3, which seems about where he might settle. Gibcus quite high.

I think we might be a sneaky chance of looking at Rachele, if we don't do the expected of Roberts.