List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

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[Scorpus]

I mean it took a while for Oliver and Petracca to come good too.

Hopefully this year we start to see some of our boys push along

Oliver averaged 30 disposals in his second season and was All Australian in his third.

Usually you can tell within the first few seasons

 

[Jeffcrowe]

You might I'm taking Draper before those 2 others.

Draper clearly for me out of those 3

 

[UcantCme]

Oliver averaged 30 disposals in his second season and was All Australian in his third.

Usually you can tell within the first few seasons

And what about Petrecca

Oliver was good early in his career, however Petrecca has been a slower burn?

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[Jeffcrowe]

Ok sorry it's PRACTICALLY over.

No there’s 2 more games , a combined tassie , nt , Queensland team is better than U18 sanfl junior footy by a margin

 

[Sanders]

Apparently Sanders has an issue with the suggestion that Richmond can trade him despite evidence to the contrary presented several times.

bad dog.

 

[Scorpus]

And what about Petrecca

Oliver was good early in his career, however Petrecca has been a slower burn?

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He was but he was still a pretty good half forward in his first few years, getting 20 and a goal each week plus some midfield rotations.

We can't really lump guys like Berry and McHenry in with that level of production. Schoenberg maybe

 

[Sanders]

Can they?

North could offer a contract that would take the Tigers cap to the brink given the stars on the list.

he’s not a free agent. He’s just an uncontracted players, standing opposite the wooden spoon team, asking them to pay him lots of money.

that team has no.1 pick in psd.

it’s a match.

 

[morris086]

And what about Petrecca

Oliver was good early in his career, however Petrecca has been a slower burn?

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Petracca, like Dusty, had fitness issues so he couldn't impact a game for more than a quarter at most. His slow start is also slightly over blown, he still averaged around a goal a game and just under 20 disposals until he broke out.

 

[Mutineer]

Height
Contested Marking
Upside ....still learning how to play midfield
Strength ?
Speed ?

Watching him now in the academy v Geelong game .....but he's right up there to add variation & flexibility to our midfield

Speed?
Strength?

Josh Goater is one of the quickest mids if not the quickest in this draft, and few if any could match him for explosiveness from the contest.


Josh Goater
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro | Midfielder/Defender
2/06/2003 | 190cm | 79kg





Snapshot: A big-bodied midfielder with explosive athletic traits and clean hands on the inside, Goater is a prospect with great potential and versatility.


Goater lays claim to one of the more impressive athletic profiles in the draft pool, particularly in a power sense. His explosive turn of speed and impressive vertical leap are traits which catch the eye at testing events and are transferred on-field, with the Calder Cannons product able to produce exciting passages of play. He has proven his worth in midfield with good ball winning strength and clean hands on the inside, but can also roll out to a wing, pinch-hit up forward, and has proven his class off half-back. He is another who stakes his claim on high upside.


Last month:


Goater technically made an appearance in August, albeit on the first day as his Calder Cannons beat the Murray Bushrangers. The talented utility continued to showcase his versatility, starring in defence with 28 disposals, 11 marks and eight rebound 50s before Metro regions again went into lockdown. His intercept marking ability and clean kicking skills proved weaponous.


The versatile/hybrid types


Hybrid is a bit of an in-vogue word at the moment, but in this sense we’re talking about the players who are versatile and can impact in other areas of the ground before eventually becoming more permanent midfielders, or pinch-hitting there.


There is a good handful of first round talent which suits this mould, starting with South Australian Arlo Draper. He fares well at stoppages and can certainly get his hands on the ball there, but adds a point of difference with his ability to take marks and kick goals up forward. He has been more of a midfielder-forward at Under 18s level, but has spent more time among the front half in senior grades.


Prominent Sandringham Dragons pair Josh Sinn and Campbell Chesser are players who have notable outside traits, including their speed, line-breaking ability, and kicking skills. Both have developed across half-back and the wing, but can just as capably play on the inside and are true metres-gained assets in all roles.


Along with the above pair, Josh Rachele has been a standout throughout the pathways and while he has more often been used as a half-forward for Murray and Vic Country, can certainly impact with his speed and skill in midfield. From small to tall, Josh Goater is a big-bodied type on the inside who can essentially play anywhere. He has clean hands and unreal athleticism, which boded well for his most recent move to half-back with plenty of run and intercept marking.

Top 10 Results

VERTICAL JUMP (cm)
80 Josh Goater (Calder)
80 Michael Ktona (Calder)
78 Harvey Gallagher (Bendigo)
78 Lochlan Jenkins (Oakleigh)
77 Tyreece Leiu (Eastern)
75 David Brinker-Ritchie (Gippsland)
75 Joshua Gibcus (GWV Revels)
75 Joshua Misiti (Calder)
75 Tom Brown (Murray)
75 Mitchell Moschetti (Gippsland)


RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP (cm)
96 Jai Serong (Gippsland)
96 Josh Goater (Calder)
95 Joshua Gibcus (GWV Rebels)
95 Tyler Norton (Murray)
94 Tom Brown (Murray)
94 William Bowden (Murray)
94 Ethan Warburton (Murray)
92 Joshua Misiti (Calder)
92 Joshua Rachele (Murray)
91 Lachlan Rathjen (Gippsland)


20m SPRINT (seconds)
2.88 Lachlan Rathjen (Gippsland)
2.88 Lachlan Green (Western)
2.89 Josh Sticca (Northern)
2.91 Tyler Norton (Murray)
2.91 Kobi George (Dandenong)
2.92 Josh Goater (Calder)
2.93 Cooper Smith (Bendigo)
2.94 Billy Cootee (Western)
2.94 Blake Howes (Sandringham)
2.95 Dominic Akuei (Northern)

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Speed?
Strength?

Josh Goater is one of the quickest mids if not the quickest in this draft, and few if any could match him for explosiveness from the contest.

Along with the 190cm .....that speed & marking is a real plus ....has to be in our shortlist

Still reckon Mac Andrew is .....could be one of the premier ruckmen

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The Draft Central summary of Goaters game Vic Metro v Country


Josh Goater (Calder Cannons)
2/06/2003 | 190cm/79kg | Midfielder


The Calder Cannons prospect has had a rich vein of form and that continued again with the athletic midfielder improving his draft stocks once more with a strong game. Goater showed plenty of traits you want to see in a midfielder with his ability to escape congestion via a burst of speed or spin out of tackles. He showed great composure in those situations, which was highlighted in the second quarter as he rode a Ben Hobbs tackle, who is one of the toughest and strongest tacklers in this year’s draft crop. Standing at 190cm his ability to show off his athletic traits along with his obvious talent with ball in hand will make him a very sought after prospect come November in this year’s draft. Goater’s kicking was the one area that let him down at times but his run and carry on the outside and his composure and skill by hand from stoppages was impactful. It couldn’t be doubted that he was amongst the very best players on the day, finishing with 23 disposals.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I mean it took a while for Oliver and Petracca to come good too.

Hopefully this year we start to see some of our boys push along

Oliver was a star almost immediately .....but Petracca was being talked as a potential flop, having talent but not the workrate .....potentially being a permanent HFF

Burgess gets him fit & WOW !

 

[hey shorty]

The Draft Central summary of Goaters game Vic Metro v Country


Josh Goater (Calder Cannons)
2/06/2003 | 190cm/79kg | Midfielder


The Calder Cannons prospect has had a rich vein of form and that continued again with the athletic midfielder improving his draft stocks once more with a strong game. Goater showed plenty of traits you want to see in a midfielder with his ability to escape congestion via a burst of speed or spin out of tackles. He showed great composure in those situations, which was highlighted in the second quarter as he rode a Ben Hobbs tackle, who is one of the toughest and strongest tacklers in this year’s draft crop. Standing at 190cm his ability to show off his athletic traits along with his obvious talent with ball in hand will make him a very sought after prospect come November in this year’s draft. Goater’s kicking was the one area that let him down at times but his run and carry on the outside and his composure and skill by hand from stoppages was impactful. It couldn’t be doubted that he was amongst the very best players on the day, finishing with 23 disposals.

Wouldn't be unhappy to draft him, certainly has a few points of difference

 

[LoBu]

Given that two SA kids are coming out of contract next year, it opens a lot of doors too via PSD.

With potentially first "COVID Free" season, it wouldnt be a bad time to finish in the bottom 4 and complete our rebuild with early picks again.

Next year will not be covid free, covid will be rife next year and many, many people will get it. Hopefully the impact will be massively reduced, but many people will experience really bad flu if they are double jabbed.

Not sure if the impact on the league, some states may try to resist opening up (WA), players will get sick, kids may not be vaccinated (junior football), next year may be a real shitstorm.

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[Comeonden]

When is the draft, i cant find the date anywhere?

 

[Mutineer]

When is the draft, i cant find the date anywhere?

24 and 25 November

 

[maxlilly]

Speed?
Strength?

Josh Goater is one of the quickest mids if not the quickest in this draft, and few if any could match him for explosiveness from the contest.


Josh Goater
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro | Midfielder/Defender
2/06/2003 | 190cm | 79kg





Snapshot: A big-bodied midfielder with explosive athletic traits and clean hands on the inside, Goater is a prospect with great potential and versatility.


Goater lays claim to one of the more impressive athletic profiles in the draft pool, particularly in a power sense. His explosive turn of speed and impressive vertical leap are traits which catch the eye at testing events and are transferred on-field, with the Calder Cannons product able to produce exciting passages of play. He has proven his worth in midfield with good ball winning strength and clean hands on the inside, but can also roll out to a wing, pinch-hit up forward, and has proven his class off half-back. He is another who stakes his claim on high upside.


Last month:


Goater technically made an appearance in August, albeit on the first day as his Calder Cannons beat the Murray Bushrangers. The talented utility continued to showcase his versatility, starring in defence with 28 disposals, 11 marks and eight rebound 50s before Metro regions again went into lockdown. His intercept marking ability and clean kicking skills proved weaponous.


The versatile/hybrid types


Hybrid is a bit of an in-vogue word at the moment, but in this sense we’re talking about the players who are versatile and can impact in other areas of the ground before eventually becoming more permanent midfielders, or pinch-hitting there.


There is a good handful of first round talent which suits this mould, starting with South Australian Arlo Draper. He fares well at stoppages and can certainly get his hands on the ball there, but adds a point of difference with his ability to take marks and kick goals up forward. He has been more of a midfielder-forward at Under 18s level, but has spent more time among the front half in senior grades.


Prominent Sandringham Dragons pair Josh Sinn and Campbell Chesser are players who have notable outside traits, including their speed, line-breaking ability, and kicking skills. Both have developed across half-back and the wing, but can just as capably play on the inside and are true metres-gained assets in all roles.


Along with the above pair, Josh Rachele has been a standout throughout the pathways and while he has more often been used as a half-forward for Murray and Vic Country, can certainly impact with his speed and skill in midfield. From small to tall, Josh Goater is a big-bodied type on the inside who can essentially play anywhere. He has clean hands and unreal athleticism, which boded well for his most recent move to half-back with plenty of run and intercept marking.

Top 10 Results

VERTICAL JUMP (cm)
80 Josh Goater (Calder)
80 Michael Ktona (Calder)
78 Harvey Gallagher (Bendigo)
78 Lochlan Jenkins (Oakleigh)
77 Tyreece Leiu (Eastern)
75 David Brinker-Ritchie (Gippsland)
75 Joshua Gibcus (GWV Revels)
75 Joshua Misiti (Calder)
75 Tom Brown (Murray)
75 Mitchell Moschetti (Gippsland)


RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP (cm)
96 Jai Serong (Gippsland)
96 Josh Goater (Calder)
95 Joshua Gibcus (GWV Rebels)
95 Tyler Norton (Murray)
94 Tom Brown (Murray)
94 William Bowden (Murray)
94 Ethan Warburton (Murray)
92 Joshua Misiti (Calder)
92 Joshua Rachele (Murray)
91 Lachlan Rathjen (Gippsland)


20m SPRINT (seconds)
2.88 Lachlan Rathjen (Gippsland)
2.88 Lachlan Green (Western)
2.89 Josh Sticca (Northern)
2.91 Tyler Norton (Murray)
2.91 Kobi George (Dandenong)
2.92 Josh Goater (Calder)
2.93 Cooper Smith (Bendigo)
2.94 Billy Cootee (Western)
2.94 Blake Howes (Sandringham)
2.95 Dominic Akuei (Northern)

Josh Goater is my pick for #4
Has lots of traits that we need in our midfield

 

[GROTTO]

he’s not a free agent. He’s just an uncontracted players, standing opposite the wooden spoon team, asking them to pay him lots of money.

that team has no.1 pick in psd.

it’s a match.

Thanks. Sorry I was just going off the misinformation posted earlier on here.

 

[Mutineer]

Josh Goater is my pick for #4
Has lots of traits that we need in our midfield

Whatever pick but he's top of my list as the difference maker in this draft that should be available to us, though I suspect he goes higher than most are predicting.

 

[SuperBashBros]

Nicks mentioned speed and power in the midfield. Even mentioned Petracca if Im not mistaken.

Goater has to be around our pick 4 if thats the case.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

And what about Petrecca

Oliver was good early in his career, however Petrecca has been a slower burn?

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Petracca was a good forward (rated 1st gen forward before moving to midfield) and was good when used in the midfield, he just needed a tank. The signs of ability were there which was the key indicator.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Goater is one that I’m high on, he could easily turn into the athletic, big bodied player we need. His speed at his size is almost unmatched in this current crop

That said, there are elements of risk, with his kicking not always the cleanest and a low tackle count in his NAB League games (although that could be in part due to spending some time at half back). We need to be sure we can eventually turn him into a full-time mid

 

[Danger in Texas]

Whatever pick but he's top of my list as the difference maker in this draft that should be available to us, though I suspect he goes higher than most are predicting.

You might be right, but I’d be shocked if he didn’t make it to pick 4

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Harry, Pedlar and Pick 4 is a pretty good start.

Berry will be a very capable soldier, as will McHenry. Crouch and Laird will still be around for long enough to make a difference.

Dogs have more midfield depth than Melbourne yet got blown apart.

As soon as Stef tired and couldn't neutralise the ruck contest, it was over and the mids couldnt touch it. Swap rucks and its a different result. Could have had 20 midfielders, wouldnt have mattered

 

[Mutineer]

You might be right, but I’d be shocked if he didn’t make it to pick 4

I wouldn't be all that shocked when people are talking Erasmus and Callaghan at that point, I think Goater stacks up exceptionally against those two personally and I cant see him as being in the pick 15 -20 range most have been predicting to this point.

You think Erasmus' field kicking is better?