List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

Delisted;
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Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

- Link
6. Sebastian Ross

6

Sebastian Ross

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.3

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

2.1

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
15. Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder

18

Patrick Ryder

Age

37

Ht

197cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.3

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

21.8

5star

D

4.4

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

1.2

2star

HO

3.0

5star

- Link
24. James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
38. Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link
42. Max Heath

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

- Link
45. Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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[sammm]

Riewoldt basically said billing for a first could be right for both the player and club but for a second no. The same position that a lot of posters hold. Dunstan seems out the door to me, when you’ve had the not best 22 chat and then get a modest offer after playing good football the writing is wall and truly on the wall.

And I am ok with Dunstan and Billings going. Need to bring in some more youth. And we already have replacements

 

[GeTrain]

Hes a bog average ruckman, his only strength at stoppage is grabbing ball out of the air and teams are onto that now.
Even the Blues game he dominated hit outs against Silvagni (as he should) but we got touched up at stoppage.
I love him as a forward and second ruck but if we want to win finals then I don’t think Marshall as a number 1 ruck works.

I love Marshall in more of a CHF role. He moves incredibly well for a big guy and is right up there for contested marks. Goal kicking isn't a massive strength of his but if he plays mostly forward it should get up to around 1.5 a game

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

I love Marshall in more of a CHF role. He moves incredibly well for a big guy and is right up there for contested marks. Goal kicking isn't a massive strength of his but if he plays mostly forward it should get up to around 1.5 a game

Hes going to kick 1 goal 5 a game? Perfect

 

[GeTrain]

Hes going to kick 1 goal 5 a game? Perfect

... 1 and a half. Is around 35 goals in a year

 

[StCicatriz]

Here's a left field suggestion for ruck depth. Nathan Vardy

19

Nathan Vardy

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

3.2

1star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

1.3

3star

HO

17.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.6

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

15.0

5star

. 30 years of age. Currently playing wafl. Out of contract.

Gets him one step closer to home before retirement.

Gives us depth for Ryder.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

... 1 and a half. Is around 35 goals in a year

Only joking but I’d rather 1 goal 5 behinds. Is closer to 1.83 goals a game

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Here's a left field suggestion for ruck depth. Nathan Vardy. 30 years of age. Currently playing wafl. Out of contract.

Gets him one step closer to home before retirement.

Gives us depth for Ryder.

He's supposed to be a good ruck is he?

 

[Bill Mohr]

Here's a left field suggestion for ruck depth. Nathan Vardy. 30 years of age. Currently playing wafl. Out of contract.

Gets him one step closer to home before retirement.

Gives us depth for Ryder.

Very left field, most of his career he has been left right out.

 

[Yawkey way]

And I am ok with Dunstan and Billings going. Need to bring in some more youth. And we already have replacements

Not for a player of billings quality we don’t and the chances of replacing his production with a second round pick aren’t good.

 

[Yawkey way]

Depends on the bottle as depending whether it's a good one. Some Grant burgess are good, some not.

I’ve had some decent ones it was a comment specifically on the trinity which is about $40 today but was a touch more expensive back then.

 

[Connorn99]

The club seems to have got themselves into a spot were we really need to get rid of a lot of players that are just not going to cut it , sure Dunstan , Ross ect are good enough to play in finals but are they going to be in a team that could win a GF , i would say no.
I think we really need to bite the bullet now and get rid of them while we have good core of young players that can all grow together , Im happy for a couple of years of gradual improvement and then having a real shot at winning a flag , not scraping into the 8 making up the numbers which we would have been doing this year had we made it

Yep, I really think not making finals will be the best possible result for us. Shows we have a bit of work to do but will need to get rid of some deadwood.

 

[gringo2011]

What do you mean? Any player may not come on?
So because what might happen we don't select these players?
So we just hang on to the failures and never go anywhere?
I genuinely don't understand your post.

No you have both, you don't sack half the list because the kids will seamlessly take over. You know what I'm suggesting.

 

[Curunir]

Paddy?

Paddy wasn't brought in as depth, the club saw him rucking with Marshall

 

[StCicatriz]

He's supposed to be a good ruck is he?

On a scale of Paul Hunter to Paddy Ryder he's probably a Nathan Vardy... which is a substantial upgrade on Paul Hunter.

 

[gringo2011]

I think when lethers came in he went down the path of a mini rebuild. They've been churning the list quite well. They've been looking to address the immediate 12-36 months with players like crouch butler Howard Ryder Hill Jones.

Now they have a stronger base of senior talent I have no doubt they're going to be churning what they already have and bringing in more kids to support the likes of steele Gresham Marshall King paton Wilkie byrnes connolly Bytel Clarke coffield.

Make no mistake about it, it's basically a massive purge of trout. It should be obvious to everyone now that he failed massively.

From the 2017 list that Lethlean inherited I'd say there will be 3 to 4 drafted players in our likely best 22 next year if we lose Billings, Dunstan and Ross. That lot has been pretty heavily purged already. Steele, Marshall, Gresham and Membrey the best of the guys left from the total list. Mc Kenzie and Webster might struggle to hold a spot with new recruits and returning players. Lonie, Long, Battle probably struggle to get back in. Joyce good depth if retained.

Lethers has swept already and what is left is legacy contracts and the best of that era.

 

[PandaG]

Dunstan with that one kick in the last quarter into the forward line tells you everything you need to know as to why he is likely to be shopped

You just knew he wasn't going to get anywhere close to hitting a target .... in fact he kicked it to a 2 on 1 wherein the Geelong players were between where the ball went and his Saints target

He kicked it about 40m away from where it should have gone ....... absolute mind numbing

We ain't going to get any better with him and Ross in the side I am sorry to say ..... because their bad is crushingly bad and completely undoes any of their good especially against better teams

We are desperately crying out for speed and skills thru the midfield

Spot on

 

[PandaG]

I’d be against Riccardi. From all reports is a bit of liability defensively. I’d rather persist with Sharman

We can have both

 

[PandaG]

Still remember all the garbage about that, people calling for the recruiters heads because he was an "untried spud"....

Most unknown players we have chased have turned out pretty good
Draper and Haynes to name 2.
I am very happy we missed on Shiel and Caldwell.

 

[PandaG]

The Saints have been vocal in their recruitment for key backman over the past several seasons, signing the likes of Dougal Howard, Jake Carlisle and James Frawley.

The latter duo are unlikely to remain at Moorabbin past this year, with Howard to require assistance in defence as Brett Ratten looks to ignite the club's premiership credentials.

Talia would arrive at St Kilda and quickly fill the mould of a reliable defender, albeit at 30-years old come the turn of the year.

The veteran defender would cover the bridge of waiting for younger players to develop while the Saints firm for a top-eight finish and contend toward the top of the ladder across the coming years.

With a premiership alluding him, Talia could see the Saints as an ideal avenue to reach that maiden success in the league after getting narrowly close with the Crows in the past.

At the right price Talia is perfect for 1-2 years while we build back line stocks

 

[PandaG]

Here's a left field suggestion for ruck depth. Nathan Vardy. 30 years of age. Currently playing wafl. Out of contract.

Gets him one step closer to home before retirement.

Gives us depth for Ryder.

Body iffy
Would look at Stanley
Out of contract also

 

[StCicatriz]

Dunstan with that one kick in the last quarter into the forward line tells you everything you need to know as to why he is likely to be shopped

You just knew he wasn't going to get anywhere close to hitting a target .... in fact he kicked it to a 2 on 1 wherein the Geelong players were between where the ball went and his Saints target

He kicked it about 40m away from where it should have gone ....... absolute mind numbing

We ain't going to get any better with him and Ross in the side I am sorry to say ..... because their bad is crushingly bad and completely undoes any of their good especially against better teams

We are desperately crying out for speed and skills thru the midfield

Noticed that as well. Absolutely damning.

 

[StCicatriz]

How was seb ross play in the back line where he couldn't bounce the ball.

Membrey on similar levels of Dunstan and Ross with his inside 50s. Holds it when he shouldn't and blows what should be certain goals.

That dropped mark. Fmd.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

How was seb ross play in the back line where he couldn't bounce the ball.

Membrey on similar levels of Dunstan and Ross with his inside 50s. Holds it when he shouldn't and blows what should be certain goals.

That dropped mark. Fmd.

I love Membrey but in that moment I was like Eddie Mcguire, I couldn't tell if that was Dean Kent or Membrey

 

[Premium]

Only another week and we should find out a few player movements for the teams not in finals.

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

Life's too short to pretend to enjoy mass produced 5% bread flavoured water.

I think horse p#ss is another accurate description.