List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Diehard Saint]

I like how we are become a poor man's Richmond

You mean like how, at one stage, Carlton were a poor man’s GWS? Hope we have more success with it

 

[George]

Why would Coffs manager be shopping him? He just signed a new contract after a great season so we can assume it would be a good contract. Since then his form has been poor.

His manager should be telling him to get out on the track and in the gym and work his arse off if he wants to earn the same in the future.

Haha some of the stuff in here is mental.

If you hear a rumour, check if the player is in contract or not. Then check when he last signed, if he signed this year he probably isn't going anywhere. Just a little bit of research would be good lol

 

[Veer Right]

Why would Coffs manager be shopping him? He just signed a new contract after a great season so we can assume it would be a good contract. Since then his form has been poor.

His manager should be telling him to get out on the track and in the gym and work his arse off if he wants to earn the same in the future.

Can only play one position in a stacked back line and is down on form.

Wouldn't trade him however as he has it in him to be a star defender with a bit of pushing.

 

[George]

Can only play one position in a stacked back line and is down on form.

Wouldn't trade him however as he has it in him to be a star defender with a bit of pushing.

That's fair enough I guess, but he isn't being shopped lol. He signed a deal in March.

 

[bird_man]

Battle for pick 26 (Richmond)
Long for 50 and 55 (Essendon)

That would give us approximately 1200 points in draft capital, the equivalent of around pick 13

Maybe enough to trade up to the Dogs first pick, but they are going to have a few clubs chasing it.

I can't see too many other clubs willing to trade down in the draft unfortunately.

Not overly keen on trading Battle if the pick may end up getting eaten by NGA selections, but if we can work our way up in the draft or those kids come after that pick, it's probably worth it.

 

[gringo2011]

Haha some of the stuff in here is mental.

If you hear a rumour, check if the player is in contract or not. Then check when he last signed, if he signed this year he probably isn't going anywhere. Just a little bit of research would be good lol

You can still move with a contract. If a player wants out they tend to go.

 

[George]

You can still move with a contract. If a player wants out they tend to go.

Just use some common sense. He signed a deal 5 months ago.

 

[bird_man]

You can still move with a contract. If a player wants out they tend to go.

How many move 6 months after signing a deal though?

 

[CaptainRisky]

There's a fair bit of you not getting how these trade and draft threads work.

Sorry Luke

 

[Joffaboy]

Nobody said Coff would be traded. Contracted, still a required player, but other clubs have asked the question.

So say Coff asks to be traded and we are offered a late FRDP? We won't accept that. Maybe we would take two but who is offering that?
Coff in my view is highly unlikely to be traded.
I really think Long, Battle and Ross are the ones that will be likely but not our emerging stars.
Funnily enough, didn't we get Coff, Long and Battle for O'Meara?

 

[Veer Right]

You can still move with a contract. If a player wants out they tend to go.

Took the words out of my mouth. Contracts are only there to drive a players price up if someone comes a knocking and the player wants to move.

 

[gringo2011]

How many move 6 months after signing a deal though?

Probably won't move but to say we can't talk about is a bit over the top too. Maybe a player hated his exit interview and the plan laid out for him. Fluid player movement will make it more common IMO. Players and clubs happy to contract for guaranteed income and tenure and clubs to have some trade capital.

 

[The Boar]

Battle for pick 26 (Richmond)
Long for 50 and 55 (Essendon)

That would give us approximately 1200 points in draft capital, the equivalent of around pick 13

Maybe enough to trade up to the Dogs first pick, but they are going to have a few clubs chasing it.

I can't see too many other clubs willing to trade down in the draft unfortunately.

Not overly keen on trading Battle if the pick may end up getting eaten by NGA selections, but if we can work our way up in the draft or those kids come after that pick, it's probably worth it.

I'd trade Battle for that.

I wouldn't trade Long for that trash though, do better Essendon, or no deal. I know you're suggesting it's more a points orientated deal, but do better Essendon

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[Joffaboy]

I'd trade Battle for that.

I wouldn't trade Long for that trash though, do better Essendon, or no deal. I know you're suggesting it's more a points orientated deal, but do better Essendon

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Yes, I understand birdmans reasoning, but its Essendon, they get no slack cut in trade period.

 

[George]

Took the words out of my mouth. Contracts are only there to drive a players price up if someone comes a knocking and the player wants to move.

I wouldn't have thought a player decides to stay and then move in the span of 5 months. Did Gary Buckenara make this shit up? Or was it that random bloke from Mt Eliza?

 

[George]

Probably won't move but to say we can't talk about is a bit over the top too. Maybe a player hated his exit interview and the plan laid out for him. Fluid player movement will make it more common IMO. Players and clubs happy to contract for guaranteed income and tenure and clubs to have some trade capital.

If we are going to make shit up to pass time at least make it believable. Maybe make up some rubbish about a player who signed a few years ago having a change of heart or managers for guys that are coming out of contract in talks with other clubs. Surely we can make up better shit than trade rumours for a guy that committed to us a few months ago lol

 

[Veer Right]

I wouldn't have thought a player decides to stay and then move in the span of 5 months. Did Gary Buckenara make this sh*t up? Or was it that random bloke from Mt Eliza?

Don't know, you will have to ask Johnny Ray Rors for details.

 

[bird_man]

Nobody said Coff would be traded. Contracted, still a required player, but other clubs have asked the question.

So say Coff asks to be traded and we are offered a late FRDP? We won't accept that. Maybe we would take two but who is offering that?
Coff in my view is highly unlikely to be traded.
I really think Long, Battle and Ross are the ones that will be likely but not our emerging stars.
Funnily enough, didn't we get Coff, Long and Battle for O'Meara?

Clark, Long and Battle

 

[CaptainRisky]

Seems like I'm the only one who isn't allowed to question all the questionable rumours posted on here, that's cool i can be your punching bag , i love it

 

[Baker_for_PM]

I’d rather use the spot on a kid that could be nothing or could be everything.

At what point has Naish shown even an inkling that he could be everything? I understand that reasoning if the player has some standout attribute but he is a kid that can just run faster then a few others.


Also to others commenting about the value of delisted players, remember someone called Dylan Roberton and I guess technically Membery.

 

[gringo2011]

If we are going to make sh*t up to pass time at least make it believable. Maybe make up some rubbish about a player who signed a few years ago having a change of heart or managers for guys that are coming out of contract in talks with other clubs. Surely we can make up better sh*t than trade rumours for a guy that committed to us a few months ago lol

If we couldn't do hypothetical nonsense Bigfooty would get three posts a day.

 

[Joffaboy]

I think we have to accept that as our young players like Coff, Clark, Steele, King, Gres etc get better other clubs will ask the question even when contracted.

Clark or Coff wont be traded, and hopefully down the track the others won't, but it is a better position than we have had for years where nobody was interested in any of our players, means our list is improving.

 

[bird_man]

I'd trade Battle for that.

I wouldn't trade Long for that trash though, do better Essendon, or no deal. I know you're suggesting it's more a points orientated deal, but do better Essendon

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I'd trade Battle and Long for pick 17

Gotta look at the whole picture

That gets us 2 good picks before our NGA selections.

If we couldn't trade up then it is obviously a differenr story.

 

[gringo2011]

Seems like I'm the only one who isn't allowed to question all the questionable rumours posted on here, that's cool i can be your punching bag , i love it

Sounds fair to me.

 

[George]

If we couldn't do hypothetical nonsense Bigfooty would get three posts a day.

That's true. I'm going out for a bit, when I get back can we have 3 more bullshit rumours to discuss? Here's some scenarios;

. Matt Finnis taking the Suns CEO job and bringing Max King with him to complete his fascination of uniting the King twins.

. Jack Steele to Carlton after he got along with Sam Walsh at the Brownlow

. Ratts to line up at centre bounces next year after the loss of Luke Dunstan