List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[St Neil]

I'd happy trade Long for a 3rd rounder.

He isnt near the top of the pecking order for either position - half back or as a small forward.

And list spot wise, I think we would get just as much having Kent or Lonie on the list next year as we would having Long, plus we would then get another draft pick to use.

No. Second rounder. It seems we’re happy to keep him and he is contracted and contented at the club.

Apparently there are several clubs interested so we can nominate our terms. If Essendon want him but offer scraps then don’t even bother talking to them.

 

[jh38]

Running ability just isn’t enough though. I don’t even really understand why we’re trying him on the wing. He is a 193cm bloke with no speed and not much agility. And now that Sharman has shown more in five matches as a key forward and Highmore in 13 as a key defender, Battle is in no man’s land. He’s an interesting prospect and a natural sort of footballer but we aren’t good enough to carry a player like Battle in the 22 every match, we need proper runners for that spot. Not sure what the future holds for him.

I think the writing is on the wall for him. Wasn't he dropped for poor disposal after the Richmond game? I think we should cut our losses with him

 

[CaptainRisky]

No. Second rounder. It seems we’re happy to keep him and he is contracted and contented at the club.

Apparently there are several clubs interested so we can nominate our terms. If Essendon want him but offer scraps then don’t even bother talking to them.

Looks like he is staying as no one would give us a second rounder for him , well if they do they are stupid

 

[BrutThough]

No. Second rounder. It seems we’re happy to keep him and he is contracted and contented at the club.

Apparently there are several clubs interested so we can nominate our terms. If Essendon want him but offer scraps then don’t even bother talking to them.

I doubt anyone here would be willing for us to give a 2nd rounder for an equivalent player. Why would you expect to then get that in return?

 

[AirWinmar]

A player can be as big and strong as you want but if they lack skill or footy smarts, they will never be a match winner.

You cant just shove someone into the midfield because they are tall and expect them to be good because they are the height of Bont or Petrecca. Coffield's natural skill set lends him to being an intercept defender. We've seen them try to make Battle a midfielder because of this obsession with tall wings yet he sucks at it because it doesn't match what he is good at.

You could also say you could have all the midfield talent in the world, but your not going to be breaking out of any stoppages if your 75kgs. Unless you have some freak type of power to weight ratio

 

[kernelT]

Good shout. Kent is statistically better than Long in basically everything except tackling; and if we keep him it will be on the basis that he plays VFL unless we have injuries or he is absolutely smashing down the door; not this will he / won't he with Long.

I think from Long's perspective it's a great idea to get a fresh start, he has suffered from being played all over the park. He could win a Brownlow next year playing for Essendon and it wouldn't bother me greatly because there's no way he'll be winning one for the Saints in 2022.

The problem is none of Lonie, Kent or Long can regularly do any one of these things required to hold down a spot:
Kick goals
Set up goals
Apply enough pressure
Tackle

 

[Joffaboy]

Looks like he is staying as no one would give us a second rounder for him , well if they do they are stupid

I doubt anyone here would be willing for us to give a 2nd rounder for an equivalent player. Why would you expect to then get that in return?

A second rounder could be up to pick 40 this year.

personally wouldn'ttrade him for anything over 30.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I doubt anyone here would be willing for us to give a 2nd rounder for an equivalent player. Why would you expect to then get that in return?

Freeman? Hannerbery?

 

[ScrappyDo]

I think we tend to forget how good Clark and Coff have looked. Really bullish on both of them and think they can be top 20 players in the comp.

Coff had a really poor season but by season's end he looked very solid again. Clark's was ruined by injury but he did things again that just screamed elite to me.

With our run of injuries, changes in personnel and general shitness, the reality is that the kids we've brought in have been asked to do too much and not allowed to play with the freedom offered to those in competent teams. I think this is in no small part one of the reasons for the lack of a breakout season.

 

[BrutThough]

A second rounder could be up to pick 40 this year.

We'd be laughing if someone gave us a pick before pick 40 for Long.

 

[BrutThough]

Freeman? Hannerbery?

A top 10 pick traded two years later. And Hanners was a best 22 player, Vice Captain at Sydney and a very accomplished player.

Long is 5 years into his career, a fringe player who played more terrible than good games this year and a walking suspension.

 

[Joffaboy]

We'd be laughing if someone gave us a pick before pick 40 for Long.

No we wouldn't. Quite simply, the guy is contracted, we need something back that reflects that. If we got a third and 4th equilivent to a second, that would be fine for the NGA's.

If a team want him, the need to pay the contract premium especially if we aren't keen to trade him. Same with Coffield. Would you trade him for some crap 2nd when he was a top ten pick?

 

[Joffaboy]

Anyway so much for our 'fringe' players holding no interest
Dunstan two offers (a month a go)
Coffield, lots of interest
Long, lots of interest.

 

[kernelT]

Coffield?

Not much value in moving him on at the moment surely?

 

[CaptainRisky]

We'd be laughing if someone gave us a pick before pick 40 for Long.

He was pick 25 so he is worth around 40 or so now , Like buying a yearling for a Million and turns out it cant run , worth nothing now no matter what you paid for it

 

[BrutThough]

No we wouldn't. Quite simply, the guy is contracted, we need something back that reflects that. If we got two third and 4th equilivent to a second, that would be fine for the NGA's.

If a team want him, the need to pay the contract premium especially if we aren't keen to trade him. Same with Coffield. Would you trade him for some crap 2nd when he was a top ten pick?

So you would be happy for us to give a 2nd rounder for a fringe player from another club who had played more awful games this year than decent game?


Coffield has a lot more runs on the board than Long for starters. But I doubt a club would offer a pick high enough to make it worth trading Coffield.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Anyway so much for our 'fringe' players holding no interest
Dunstan two offers (a month a go)
Coffield, lots of interest
Long, lots of interest.

From Facebook ? or PM

 

[bird_man]

Anyway so much for our 'fringe' players holding no interest
Dunstan two offers (a month a go)
Coffield, lots of interest
Long, lots of interest.

Who has offered Dunstan a contract?

Last I heard he was likely to be picked up as a rookie or as a DFA once trade period is over and clubs see how much room they have on their list?

 

[Joffaboy]

Who has offered Dunstan a contract?

Last I heard he was likely to be picked up as a rookie or as a DFA once trade period is over and clubs see how much room they have on their list?

Had two offers about a month or so back @ 2 years wanted three. Don't know where they stand now, these things change day by day let alone from weeks ago.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Anyway so much for our 'fringe' players holding no interest
Dunstan two offers (a month a go)
Coffield, lots of interest
Long, lots of interest.

No whispers at all on Ross though.

And for the record I’d be very unhappy to let Coff go.

 

[bird_man]

Had two offers about a month or so back @ 2 years wanted three. Don't know where they stand now, these things change day by day let alone from weeks ago.

Very different to what has been reported over the last few weeks.

Hopefully you are right though.

I reckon he'd be a fool to knock back a 2 year deal if it was on the table.

 

[Joffaboy]

Very different to what has been reported over the last few weeks.

Hopefully you are right though.

Like I said that was over a month ago. Just ask Caldwell how these things go.

 

[Joffaboy]

No whispers at all on Ross though.

And for the record I’d be very unhappy to let Coff go.

Heard nothing about Ross at all. Club very keen to hang on to Coffield.

 

[bird_man]

Like I said that was over a month ago. Just ask Caldwell how these things go.

If he's got greedy saying no to a 2 year deal than he's a fool IMO.

Caldwell was very different. We didn't, we didn't pull our contract he just ended up with a better offer.

 

[The Boar]

Let Battle go for an early second.
Let Long for for a second.
Or an upgrade on our first pick (rules out Essendon).

We don't need to accept unders and we should keep our contracted players for depth.

If Ross went too, we should target another first round pick if we end up flush with picks. WB need more points for example

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