List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[JediSaint]

Maybe a package of Battle and Long could get a late teens pick. But I'm pretty stumped who we can get rid of. Coffield? Not supporting the idea but could we?!

Gresham?

 

[JediSaint]

We want to get better. We don’t get better for trading two first round picks for one first round pick

Keep Coffield and replace with Gresham and Ross/Lonie/Dunstan with pick 9 for pick 3 and get Finn Callaghan

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

That’s even funnier than my sarcastic post.

Sam Taylor would straight up be worth our pick 9 by itself.

Here’s an interesting one. What does Coffield for Taylor demand as extra. And who’s way

 

[Tommy Wigs]

If half of our players played like Long we’d never get our hands on the footy.

Damn harsh

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I hope people trashing Dunstans reputation have pretty good intel, pretty unfair to a bloke who really gave everything and was a great clubman from what I can gather.

Yep, these weeks either lead to smacking of Saints players or the same for those who have missed games and are out of sight.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Keep Coffield and replace with Gresham and Ross/Lonie/Dunstan with pick 9 for pick 3 and get Finn Callaghan

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[kernelT]

I’d consider trading coff for a shot at drafting an elite mid but I don’t think his value would be anywhere near that after a poor year.

 

[Minga]

Our off-field team has been in some serious form when it comes to trading week the last couple of years. We have gone out and brought in some really quality players mostly at respectable prices. We have been efficient, smart and reassured in our strategy. It’s not just internal either, the whole industry has even acknowledged our efforts over the last two years.

This year, the strategy is get the **** into the draft … and maybe improve on some fringe players through trade/FA. AKA, let’s see if the off-field team can weave its magic in trading picks just like it has in bringing in players. Draft night 2021 (November 24th) will be a huge one for the immediate future of the club.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

A game a couple of years ago we need to kick a goal to win it’s less than thirty seconds on the clock. We’re heading in the right direction with their defenders caught short and Long gets the ball about 70m from goal. He then proceeds to roost the ball into low earth orbit chewing up about 13 seconds of hang time and giving the oppo defenders ample time to flood back and smother the game. I nicknamed him Bombit after that and it tells you all you need to know about his football brain.
Apart from that he’s not a bad player.

 

[BrutThough]

Keep Coffield and replace with Gresham and Ross/Lonie/Dunstan with pick 9 for pick 3 and get Finn Callaghan

I cant take any more of these trade suggestions that involve trading unrestricted free agents for really good picks/players.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

I cant take any more of these trade suggestions that involve trading unrestricted free agents for really good picks/players.

drink everytime someone proposes trading dunstan or ross

 

[ScrappyDo]

Not a chance in hell this trade period but I'd be priming us for moore next trade period.

Stash the coin. Run with a temp CHB option.

Then go all in on Moore early next season.

I'd be doing this more so than BING.

As for ladhams buyer beware... somethings off.

Also very surprised SPP name hasn't come up for a move out. Not necessarily us but just interesting port aren't moving on from that.

I %100 agree with the Moore angle. The filthe are just starting a rebuild after all.
Hopper in 2 years (RFA) also twigs my interest.

 

[Spider Eater]

I cant take any more of these trade suggestions that involve trading unrestricted free agents for really good picks/players.

I'm still wanting compinsation for Siposs... a 4th round pick in the NFL draft may come in handy.

 

[PandaG]

Coff is not a midfielder at AFL level- so forget it, and nor is Clark. We need to recruit midfield quality.

Clark is

 

[PandaG]

Steele is an interesting one.

Im of the firm belief that he is the player he now because of his early development at GWS under the guidance of Leon Cameron, Lenny Hayes & Luke Power, and on-field mentoring from Cal Ward & Ryan Griffen through the Giants academy & his first 2 years

Who’ve our young mids been coached by & learnt from? Richo & Kingsley as coaches, with Ross, Stuv on field. Eeewwww

They called him Pig at gws, not sure they were getting the most out of him or his development

 

[Moral Decay]

Didn’t say I’d do it. Thought of it & posted to gather opinion

For the right price I'd trade him, not commanding a first 22 place, has a desired trait, intercept marking, but not contested, not good defensively.
With a full list he struggled to get a game.

We hold on to him if we can't get another tall defender.
We hold on to him if he's doing the extras to lift himself.

If he has another year like this one, he's out of contract out of team and running out of time, his trade value drops from a first to Scrimshaw levels.

I'd love to be in the exit interview, because that would tell me a lot, and I'm tired of worrying about mid range players. Letting Acres go hasn't hurt and if Coff is looking elsewhere it's time.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

They called him Pig at gws, not sure they were getting the most out of him or his development

If you listen to the AFL Fantasy Traders interview you'd know that its a reference to him being a fantasy pig which means racks up an enormous amount of the ball and fantasy points. Indulging in tons of the ball

 

[BrutThough]

If you listen to the AFL Fantasy Traders interview you'd know that its a reference to him being a fantasy pig which means racks up an enormous amount of the ball and fantasy points. Indulging in tons of the ball

He was called pig long before he was a good fantasy option. Just happens to be a nice coincidence.

 

[PandaG]

If you listen to the AFL Fantasy Traders interview you'd know that its a reference to him being a fantasy pig which means racks up an enormous amount of the ball and fantasy points. Indulging in tons of the ball

No it isnt
He was called pig because he ate too much (loved food), so the gws garbage about development of Steele is just ridiculous.

 

[Saint_Dos]

Any interest in Jay Rantall from Collingwood?
Uncontracted and seems to not being offered much of a contract
Former pick#40 who has looked very handy at VFL level and been played out of position when going to AFL (hence his stats look crap)
Inside outside mid, former basketballer, runs all day.
Wont get much of a look in to a midfield of Adams, Pendles, Sidebottom, Daicos x2, Macrae, Crisp.

Not sure we have much to offer around the mid-late 3rd rounder but if we end up with extra picks it could be an option.

 

[Connorn99]

Steele is an interesting one.

Im of the firm belief that he is the player he now because of his early development at GWS under the guidance of Leon Cameron, Lenny Hayes & Luke Power, and on-field mentoring from Cal Ward & Ryan Griffen through the Giants academy & his first 2 years

Who’ve our young mids been coached by & learnt from? Richo & Kingsley as coaches, with Ross, Stuv on field. Eeewwww

When Steele came to the club he wasn't at AFL condition fitness wise. I reckon Richo was good for a few of our players especially Steele and Hunter Clark. He gave them tough love and dropped them a couple of times often to the dismay of fans but I feel Richo made the penny drop for them to work hard and make them the players they are today..

 

[PandaG]

Good shout. Kent is statistically better than Long in basically everything except tackling; and if we keep him it will be on the basis that he plays VFL unless we have injuries or he is absolutely smashing down the door; not this will he / won't he with Long.

I think from Long's perspective it's a great idea to get a fresh start, he has suffered from being played all over the park. He could win a Brownlow next year playing for Essendon and it wouldn't bother me greatly because there's no way he'll be winning one for the Saints in 2022.

Longs hit on Brayshaw rnd 23 is exactly why he should be kept and developed into and intimidating hff. His aggression is something we lack

and Hunter Clark is an midfielder
Nothing else

 

[StCicatriz]

If Riley Beveridge’s article is accurate, Long will be traded if we get “a suitable offer”.

I’m wondering whether that offer will be a pick in the 20s. If so, it would fit in with the suggestion that we are looking for an extra early round draft pick.

Pick 9 and the Ben Long pick in exchange for Brisbane’s picks 14 & 18. Not sure if Brisbane would do that but that is one possibility. The other is another player is packaged with pick 9.

It’s possible we are worried that Owens or Windhager could be pinched with a late teens draft pick. It’s also possible that we genuinely believe that this draft is wide open and taking the downgrade is worth it.

I think think days of downgrading picks are over.

We need to be getting high up the draft order if anything. Similar to Melbourne with Jackson.

 

[StCicatriz]

When we drafted Coffield I felt that if we couldn't turn him into a player then we might as well just shut the club down.

He has so many attributes that transition well to AFL.

If we can't utilise those, then we have bigger issues. Issues that are not fixed by trading and redrafting. We'll just run into the same problem with the next guy we draft.

Instead of thinking coffield won't make it we instead should be asking what we are doing to make sure he does make it.

 

[PandaG]

In Dunny's words "the coach didn't rate me" is all there is to it IMHO.
Ratts made it perfectly clear when he took over that if you can't kick then you won't be playing for StKilda, and Dunny has been on the outs since then.
Nothing to see here AFAIC. Loved Dunny and hope he gets another gig but I want a premiership thanks.

Luke was playing for Luke.
Therefore he has to go