List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[gringo2011]

And also it was the other way around. Richo wanted Petracca but was overruled.

So Rendell's whole spiel was a fabrication.

Edit: so reading the Emma Quayle piece, Richo was not all for Petracca but seemed to have been swayed to Paddy by Trout and Bains. He certainly didn't push for Paddy over Petracca, it was trout who was doing all the pushing and convincing.

Ironically they used Boyd as the example and both now both paddy and Boyd are done.

An ex player claimed that Richo knew Petracca's family so didn't want to be seen to be pushing that barrow. ****ing unassertive micro dick.

 

[gringo2011]

I wonder if Rendell stays on radio long enough he'll get hit with threats of defamation again hahahaha

I think Ned Guy may have already threatened him with it. Absolutely trashed him on SEN earlier in the year.

 

[StCicatriz]

Pretty sure they same about Howard lol

Howard cost a first round downgrade when we were already trying to split picks. It was pretty good get on their part given what they originally drafted him with.

This is the opposite scenario now.

We are not looking to split picks. We are looking to upgrade.

Edit:

Ryder and Howard have been traded to St Kilda in a deal that sees the Power receive picks 12 and 18 at November’s NAB AFL Draft along with the Saints’ future third round selection.
Port Adelaide will also send pick 10 and a future fourth-round selection to Moorabbin.

I think its unlikely we will be in a position to upgrade our pick that way. I dont think we have the cap or picks to make it happen.

 

[triggering bro]

I can’t stand trade radio. Not bothering with it this year.

I can’t see us trading anyone in when we want to use pick 9 & also accumulate later points for the NGA guys. I can definitely see someone leaving though. Hope it’s not Long. He’s one of the minority who plays with passion.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Unpopular Opinion but we should not Trade for Ben King

34

Ben King

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

.

We need to use picks to get mids.

 

[gringo2011]

Do you just have a mate from every club that you get all your player info from?

No but my Richmond mate watches their VFL and knows people at the club. Actually the uncle of Caldy's mate, he had another nephew who played at the Pies but was a bit average.

 

[Ceanag]

No but my Richmond mate watches their VFL and knows people at the club. Actually the uncle of Caldy's mate, he had another nephew who played at the Pies but was a bit average.

Freeman

 

[St Neil]

Considering how much Essendon has f’ed us over the years in trade week.

Lovett for pick 16
Carlisle and 14 for pick 5 and 24 (then suddenly the minute after the trade comes out the infamous video surface)
Hind for literally nothing
Swooped in to take Caldwell from underneath us by offering ridiculous money

I’d tell them to give us their pick 11 or a future 1st or GTFO. Seriously hate them.

Don’t trade with them while Dodoro is still there. Best to avoid them unless it is absolutely necessary.

 

[gringo2011]

No I do think people are harsh because a little like Sinclair it’s like if he’s not getting 30 people are upset as opposed to actually seeing what he does with the pill. Now we all agree he needs to improve his fitness. I also don’t buy this ‘ he might lack effort’ it’s not true. Just because certain players have a more effortless running gate does not mean they are not running hard or working hard. Pendlebury being the example. In fact IIRC the distance he covers in games is usually right up in our top runners.

He doesn't chase, that's a bad look unless you are actually Pendles.

 

[Monika72]

Bob Murphy on the possibility of chasing Long.

So your the one who listens to that show.

 

[St Neil]

fu** I can’t deal with this sh*t anymore. We need to ban this discussion. Just going over old wounds

Agree. Let’s move on. It was 7 years.

 

[Minga]

When I think about trading Long it concerns me. The guy has so much bloody potential, imagine if he got himself super-fit. He could be a gun.

We've just got a new development coach and a new fitness coach. Can we give them a crack at Longy for a season before we get rid of him? The idea of him ripping it up for Essendon makes me physically ill.

I think this is a pretty astute point.

Considering we are having an upheaval of assistant coaches this season it’s a great time to see if the new ones can have an immediate effect on our contracted but fringe players for next year. I’m talking Long, Battle, Joyce and so on. Guys like Carrol, Enright and Walsh could have a massive effect of those 3 specifically - who knows?

Unless we are DESPERATE for a pick, that’s the smart thing to do whilst they’re contracted. Development from within is our next step to success - the demons just did it and look where it got them.

 

[gringo2011]

Freeman

No, I'm distantly related to Freezer though. This guys nephew was a step down from Freezer even, only lasted a couple of seasons, they were a gun side at the time so couldn't get a go.

 

[saintsrfreak]

When I think about trading Long it concerns me. The guy has so much bloody potential, imagine if he got himself super-fit. He could be a gun.

We've just got a new development coach and a new fitness coach. Can we give them a crack at Longy for a season before we get rid of him? The idea of him ripping it up for Essendon makes me physically ill.

Does he? What is he especially good at? What elite traits does he have

He's tough, he can take the occasional nice looking mark, and if he's not invisible he might bob up for a goal if he plays forward

He also gives away too many free kicks and 50s, hasn't got great disposal, isn't particularly quick, doesn't have a clear best position, and doesn't know how to find the footy, even in the easiest position on the ground

Big meh from me, trade him for a pick inside 40 before we delist him next year

 

[gringo2011]

I've said for years Australia have the best Pizza's in the world too.

You can get really good pizza and Italian style coffee in Melbourne. Actually have the best coffee in the world in Melbourne IMO.

 

[Yawkey way]

Close, an Italian.

I’ve never heard my Italian son in law say parmi but my youngest daughters fiancé does and he’s from Bendigo where apparently that’s normal.

Missing the flamingos work, it fired up the troops even if it was garbage.

 

[BrutThough]

When I think about trading Long it concerns me. The guy has so much bloody potential, imagine if he got himself super-fit. He could be a gun.

We've just got a new development coach and a new fitness coach. Can we give them a crack at Longy for a season before we get rid of him? The idea of him ripping it up for Essendon makes me physically ill.

The same could have been said about Acres a few years ago - so much potential, new coach, could be anything etc.

Good thing we didnt keep him just because of that "potential".

 

[gringo2011]

Agree. Let’s move on. It was 7 years.

We need a ceremony, like burning an effigy of Trout at Moorabin.

 

[sunny3193]

I've said for years Australia have the best Pizza's in the world too.

No, no, a thousand times, no.

 

[PostmanBish]

Marshall can ruck 90% of a game by himself. One of the Kings would be capable of running around and occasionally tapping the ball for a few minutes a quarter.

Marshall takes centre bounces and floats between the arcs, rotating forward to the goalsquare when one of the Kings is off the ground and the other rucks the throwins?

Not too far fetched if we can have a couple of players primed to take a centre bounce/stoppage while he rests forward or has a spell.

Also possible we choose to concede the bounces he doesn’t attend, with an extra mid/hbfer at the contest to try and steal/force a stoppage.

As the Kings mature they may get comfortable with a pinch-hit in the ruck, or Heath develops and one of our bigs spends time rotating into defence.

If nothing else it presents some intriguing possibilities …

 

[Yawkey way]

No, no, a thousand times, no.

Don’t like pineapple?

 

[Sun Ra]

We need a ceremony, like burning an effigy of Trout at Moorabin.

Agree

 

[Diehard Saint]

No I do think people are harsh because a little like Sinclair it’s like if he’s not getting 30 people are upset as opposed to actually seeing what he does with the pill. Now we all agree he needs to improve his fitness. I also don’t buy this ‘ he might lack effort’ it’s not true. Just because certain players have a more effortless running gate does not mean they are not running hard or working hard. Pendlebury being the example. In fact IIRC the distance he covers in games is usually right up in our top runners.

Dal Santo used to get the same criticism for his laconic style.

 

[lewdogs]

Does he? What is he especially good at? What elite traits does he have

He's tough, he can take the occasional nice looking mark, and if he's not invisible he might bob up for a goal if he plays forward

He also gives away too many free kicks and 50s, hasn't got great disposal, isn't particularly quick, doesn't have a clear best position, and doesn't know how to find the footy, even in the easiest position on the ground

Big meh from me, trade him for a pick inside 40 before we delist him next year

His disposal is very good. Very good mark. Good eye for goal. Tough as nails, brutal tackler. That's quite a few good traits.

His main issue is he struggles to find enough of the footy, but could that be a fitness issue?

 

[Diehard Saint]

Would we trade Sharman for Bing and a straight swap..?? If the GC said that (which they won’t) would be do the trade..?

I wouldn’t. Based on the little we’ve seen I think he has a good point of difference in the forward line. And he’s a smart player.