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List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft & Rookie Draft
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I like the look of Oliver Holland’s and Elijah Hewett
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Really hoping Humphrey somehow falls to us. Exactly what we’re after.
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Feels like he’s gonna be the bolter of this draft like Oliver was in 15
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It does look like that unfortunately but it’s exactly the profile we should be after. George fits it too but he’s also out long term. Might have to just get the best player available.
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Phillopou could be better than both those guys just could also be terrible from the things I’ve read and the highlights I’ve watched. Not claiming to have any idea though. That key defender wouldn’t be terrible either
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Like Neil Erasmus last year, I just don’t trust these type of players. Hasn’t had those massive games in the midfield compared to the highly rated Vic and WA guys, does ok as a forward but not dominant.
I’ve been burned by so many of these guys in the past. Lennon, Mayes, Menzel etc. in the end they turn out to be undersized third tall forwards. He’s got good skills but isn’t really powerful or dynamic which is more what I’d be looking for in a half forward/midfielder.
Personally I’d rather someone else picked him before it was our turn.
Not convinced yet.
As a forward, works well to find front position, has clean hands and a reasonable kick. Can light it up
When at stoppages, has clean hands, good use of first option
Too many times, where he seems to lack intent and somewhat goes through the motions
Closest comparison for me would be Bailey Fritsch
He doesn’t appeal to me
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No to McKenzie: smart, clean with and without the ball, but he's not going to accelerate away from enough contests from what I've seen. I'd hesitate to call him a top 30 prospect on the back of that.
Phillipou is a maybe, because he seems almost explosive enough to be a dangerous inside mid, but I'd want to see some testing. Very good user of the ball.
No to Humphrey: like a larger version of Fisher in some ways, but lacks the explosiveness in terms of acceleration and kicking to really gain separation, as either a player or a draft prospect.
Ginbey I'm less familair with but I'm always wary of late position changes when it comes to medium types.
Of the less mentioned names as good for our list, I'm pretty interested in Busslinger, and think he'd be a great player to have developing for us. Definitely a great CHB and interceptor, and thrives presenting at the ball so I think he's got the ability to swing to CHF and push up the ground to create a link for the midfield.
I'm not suggesting he should play CHF for us unless absolutely necessary, but to have the smarts and athleticism to offer that kind of flexibility to manage the game at either end of the ground sets him apart from a lot of key position prospects, and leaves me with little qualms as to picking him if we're left looking at mids that lack pace.
But if we can't make it into the top 5 or so, we might want to look at trading down.
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If Tsatas falls outside the top 5-6 I think we'd be absolutely stupid not to try and move up a few spots for him. Gun inside, even better outside game and has one of those long stride running motions that allows him to kick long and accurately while at top speed like Isaac Smith.
Agree, but how could any team allow talents such as , Tsatas , Sheezel or Wardlaw slip out of top 5? Suppose one can dream. Go Baggers
All good options. I'm a little scarred from the Kemp and Philp situation (not over yet but not looking great) to get excited about splitting picks but depends on the offers and who we rate.
It's not a bad pick to have as a club may offer way overs for it if a player they like slides out the top 10.
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Potential top-five pick Aaron Cadman has trained with Carlton's VFL side this week after the Greater Western Victoria Rebels' unexpected finish to their NAB League season last week.
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Key Forward - Height: 194cm, Weight: 88kg
Twomey - Cadman's performances as a key forward are proving hard to ignore. The hard-working tall forward has been a prolific goalkicker all year – he booted seven goals in three games for Vic Country and 34 in the NAB League for the Rebels, including four two weeks ago against Gippsland Power. But Cadman is also capable of getting up the ground and being involved, with his goals that night coming alongside 20 disposals, seven marks and five inside 50s. Has some Harry McKay to the way he plays and has plenty of development left as well.
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Posted this in the LM thread but thought I should copy it here too...
Key Forward - Height: 194cm, Weight: 88kg
Twomey - Cadman's performances as a key forward are proving hard to ignore. The hard-working tall forward has been a prolific goalkicker all year – he booted seven goals in three games for Vic Country and 34 in the NAB League for the Rebels, including four two weeks ago against Gippsland Power. But Cadman is also capable of getting up the ground and being involved, with his goals that night coming alongside 20 disposals, seven marks and five inside 50s. Has some Harry McKay to the way he plays and has plenty of development left as well.
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Kemp and Philp vs Flanders isn’t a disaster. I know you can say we could’ve got Pickett but we could’ve also turned those two latter picks into TDK and had we done the GC trade for Philp’s pick, Saad most likely too.
Appreciate all the input here. Just a curious question for the posters who have a more in-depth opinion about certain players. How do you do your homework? Are you watching their replays, highlight, reading articles/phantom drafts or attending any games in person?
There looks to be plenty of quality around our pick at this time, Hewett looks a very good mid-fielder with some real quickness and a good user, Hollands also looks a good midfielder, Busslinger looks a good key position prospect.
Humphrey looks to be a good prospect, you always need to think of the upside and further growth of the player.
The risk of dropping down means you are running the risk most of your shortlist best options being gone at your pick, quality over quantity in my view, if there is a way to jump some places, this looks a more attractive option with some very good prospects in top 6.
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From memory Kozzy Pickett was already gone wasn’t he? wasn’t an option for us
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We traded #11 to Gold Coast, Pickett went at #12
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Brian Cook: What do we need to do to get better?
Michael Voss: #1 focus is durability. We can't succeed with the injury toll we've had this year (and in past years).
Nick Austin: Hey, got this great plan at the draft to pick up Brayden George at a bargain cost.
Brian Cook: Bye, Nick.
Yes, George looks the goods. And yes, he may well become the sort of player we're crying out for. But we just cannot use a first round draft pick on a guy who we already know will be sitting out 2023 with an acl injury. Other clubs can take the risk, we can't. That's not to mean that our draft picks must be best 22 immediately, but will be looking to see they are developing and playing football at some level. We won't be taking risks with our first two picks (or any other picks we trade in). Can't afford to.
My research is as thorough as it could be from a distance. Already looking at next years “crop”, not based on looking at a couple of clips when most supporter’s focus changes at season’s end. Multi watched all carnival games, with focus on the types we “need”. Some highlights packages, particularly non Victorian. Reports abound on the Vics. From years of following draft “experts” you learn the strengths, weaknesses and sometimes bias of each. Like to think I can “weight” the hype some players receive over other (who knows, I may be delusional). Look for various traits, positives, weaknesses, suitability for roles. e.g. Lewis Hayes in top tier of KPD options in draft. Was looking forward to footage before it was available because of our need. He is a good, even great interceptor, but has limited speed to cover leading types. His contested capabilities are so far a small sample. Like him, but we are not short of interceptors. Dependent on Young’s role and development, for mine, we more need a “beast tamer” if we are taking a tall defender. That’s why I am looking more at mids able to play on the outside and two way running.
I do cringe at some of the criticism levelled by some supposed in the know posters. Recent assessments of Mattaes Phillipou were clearly done by people basing opinions on his most recent championship game where he was injured early and played on under duress. Kid is a gun. His draft profile is very similar to the Dangerfield, Fyfe, Petracca model of decent size forward mid athletes with upside. A few behavioural rumours doing the rounds, but not putting much stock in them. Kid is driven, listened to a podcast many months ago outlining his dedication and determination.
Told myself not to get too involved with the endless opinions and assertions on here regarding draft prospects and trade hypotheticals. Anything I offer is well researched, as much as one can second and third hand on much of the feedback. Every draft has a player or two taken very early who has not been spruiked by the “experts”. Similarly there is always, “the steal” who slid to the second round or beyond who is off a list when their first contract expires. You learn to take much of the press with a grain of salt, even the professionals representing clubs can get it wrong after days of footage, testing, and multiple interviews.
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Though if you read what Ten suggested, it was to trade our future first for Sydney's pick 17, and use that to draft George (keeping Pick 11), or downgrade Pick 11 to take George and another first round pick. In both cases we're hedging a little bit, rather than putting all our draft eggs for 2022 in the Brayden George basket.
I'm more open to the first one. We basically use our 2023 first rounder (which we wouldn't select with for 12 months) to draft a kid now who won't play for 12 months. Possible risk in terms of how he recovers (though we've had good results so far from Charlie and Doc coming back from ACLs, and Kemp is looking pretty fit too after doing his a couple of years back). Upside is that we get to manage his rehab and recovery ourselves, maybe sneak in some VFL late next year, and we get a kid who (if not for the injury) could have been our man at 11 for a future first (hopefully late teens pick).
Dunno what next year's draft looks like for late first rounders, always hard to judge this far out, but if we think George is better than what we may find at 16-18 next year, then I'd be OK with the move.
Downgrading/splitting our first.....not so much.
I actually wonder if there'd be scope to deal our 2022 and 2023 seconds to Sydney for their first this year. Is their academy stacked next year? 28 and a future ~30-34 for 17? About 250 pts in their favour, they slide back 10 spots in an even-ish draft and bank an extra early 30s pick for 2023?
We draft Busslinger, George, and retain our 2023 first?
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Mind blowing, I mean who was our small forwards in 2019[emoji849]
I think SOS lived off one draft with us, overrated
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