Preview 2022 draft prospects

[cityslick1]

I agree and believe we will take a KPP or 2. I doubt we go after Magor but it would be nice, he can seriously play and also dominate in the midfield if he has to. PS: I am really liking Ed Allan, 194cm midfielder who can also play wing. Fastest in the combine and flying up the rankings

This always seems to happen with supposed ‘weak’ drafts. Just when you think there’s only 15 good players, another dozen kids with impressive traits start coming out of the woodwork..

Good news for us

 

[sr36]

Question is do we use Pick 51 or hold.

I think it depends on ruck - we'll add one to the list. If we've drafted a ruck already or there's one we like still available, we'll use that pick in the draft. If not, we'll leave a list spot open and add a mature ager after the draft.

 

[dardy33]

If Dary Jones slips through to pick 27 would love for as to take a chance, only small but has electric line breaking speed which I think will suit our helter skelter style and pick up a loose ball or 2 on the run. Would end up a perfect replacement WHE when he finishes up

 

[Anzacday]

We don't seem to have the same luck with our players

Chris Dawes is one we took a punt on that worked out ok.
Scharenberg has us a bit gun shy now.

 

[Dynamics]

Max King did his ACL in his draft year. So did Elijiah Hollands.

Its not the end of the world. Just you have to take a long term view of the player.

It's not the end of the world, but it does elevate the level of risk.

The more you push your risk tolerance, the higher you need the potential reward to be.

I don't know a great deal about George as a footballer, so I'm not in a position to provide an opinion on him specifically. But what I do value highly as a general player trait is durability/reliability. Being talented or athletic means less than nothing if you're on the sidelines. Not only are you not playing, you're taking a list spot and a decent draft pick away from a player who could be on the field. Net negative impact on the club.

Even if you looked at figures and concluded that an ACL at 18 isn't an indicator of any future knee injuries, I'd also be concerned about how he comes back. Not every player returns from a knee reco the same player. AND he misses all that crucial development off the back of covid-19 interrupted junior footy.

No disrespect to the kid and I hope he has a great career, but an ACL as a kid is a bridge too far for me.

 

[pie machine]

Yeah probably could have been a top 10 pick if not for his injury
Dekka isn't feared for kids with injuries if you view them as long term options. Like Beggy who we selected in MSD who had a shoulder injury at the time.

And Arlo last year

 

[Scodog10]

Chris Dawes is one we took a punt on that worked out ok.
Scharenberg has us a bit gun shy now.

IMO, it’s all about the athletic profile with kids that do knee injuries in their teens. M King and Petracca are the obvious recent examples that didn’t lose that athleticism so were fine. Baldwin’s second probably cruelled his chances of having a good career.

With this draft seemingly unlikely to push far past 50 live picks based on the number of list spots currently available I think it’s one that we’ll look back on as pot luck after the first 10 or so. In that case I’d be fine speculating on George as early as 16.

 

[whiskeytown]

Going against consensus… I don’t see the need for Hayes as others do… Moore will hold CHB for several years and Frampton and Dean (and Kelly) are sufficient for full back and intercepting backmen

We are also locked into mcstay…who may still play down back, if he stinks it up as a forward (like Mayne)

I’d like the pies to go early on Jacob Konstanty

Good forward craft. He’s a great mark for his size and at NAB level laid an elite average of 5.8 tackles a week as a pressure forward

Jacob Konstanty Draft Profile

Gippsland Power forward Jacob Konstanty is a menacing tackler inside 50, with the speed and smarts to match as a goal kicker.

central.rookieme.com

I think McReery then gets pushed more into the midfield… which is where I think he can be most damaging

Whoever konstanty goes to I think he plays early

 

[manicpie]

Going against consensus… I don’t see the need for Hayes as others do… Moore will hold CHB for several years and Frampton and Dean (and Kelly) are sufficient for full back and intercepting backmen

We are also locked into mcstay…who may still play down back, if he stinks it up as a forward (like Mayne)

I’d like the pies to go early on Jacob Konstanty

Good forward craft. He’s a great mark for his size and at NAB level laid an elite average of 5.8 tackles a week as a pressure forward

Jacob Konstanty Draft Profile

Gippsland Power forward Jacob Konstanty is a menacing tackler inside 50, with the speed and smarts to match as a goal kicker.

central.rookieme.com

I think McReery then gets pushed more into the midfield… which is where I think he can be most damaging

Whoever konstanty goes to I think he plays early

He's a bit of a gun but I don't think we need a pure small forward, Hayes is a genuine ultra tall defender that we need to be developing for the future. We could get Richards as late or rookie pick who looks just as good

 

[Rusty Beam]

Going against consensus… I don’t see the need for Hayes as others do… Moore will hold CHB for several years and Frampton and Dean (and Kelly) are sufficient for full back and intercepting backmen

We are also locked into mcstay…who may still play down back, if he stinks it up as a forward (like Mayne)

I’d like the pies to go early on Jacob Konstanty

Good forward craft. He’s a great mark for his size and at NAB level laid an elite average of 5.8 tackles a week as a pressure forward

Jacob Konstanty Draft Profile

Gippsland Power forward Jacob Konstanty is a menacing tackler inside 50, with the speed and smarts to match as a goal kicker.

central.rookieme.com

I think McReery then gets pushed more into the midfield… which is where I think he can be most damaging

Whoever konstanty goes to I think he plays early

I actually agree with you on Hayes. We seem to be pretty set in that regard if our aim is to really have a crack in the next few years.

I’m hoping that we either reach for Keeler there, or that a slider like Hollands or Hewett drops down the order.

Konstanty is lightning and evasive, but his finishing worries me. He makes opportunities out of nothing, but then is too wasteful with them.

Bit of the Costagna’s about him.

I think Charlie Clarke is just as good and offers better value at a either our second or third pick in the 20’s.

 

[Roverjg]

It's not the end of the world, but it does elevate the level of risk.

The more you push your risk tolerance, the higher you need the potential reward to be.

I don't know a great deal about George as a footballer, so I'm not in a position to provide an opinion on him specifically. But what I do value highly as a general player trait is durability/reliability. Being talented or athletic means less than nothing if you're on the sidelines. Not only are you not playing, you're taking a list spot and a decent draft pick away from a player who could be on the field. Net negative impact on the club.

Even if you looked at figures and concluded that an ACL at 18 isn't an indicator of any future knee injuries, I'd also be concerned about how he comes back. Not every player returns from a knee reco the same player. AND he misses all that crucial development off the back of covid-19 interrupted junior footy.

No disrespect to the kid and I hope he has a great career, but an ACL as a kid is a bridge too far for me.

People are describing this kid as a game changer.

My concern is he has had knee complaints for some time. He had surgery on his left knee early this year and was out for 3 months. In his comeback game plays 1/2 a game and did his ACL in his right knee.

Having said that Joel Selwood was coming off a year off following knee surgery when he was drafted at pick 7. He had no further issues. Genetics plays a large part. Then we had Lee Walker who had lots of potential but due in part to genetics had stuffed knees and couldn't get on the park.

 

[manicpie]

People are describing this kid as a game changer.

My concern is he has had knee complaints for some time. He had surgery on his left knee early this year and was out for 3 months. In his comeback game plays 1/2 a game and did his ACL in his right knee.

Having said that Joel Selwood was coming off a year off following knee surgery when he was drafted at pick 7. He had no further issues. Genetics plays a large part. Then we had Lee Walker who had lots of potential but due in part to genetics had stuffed knees and couldn't get on the park.

That's exactly why we don't want to go down the George path

 

[Carlthetruth]

Joel Selwood slid all the way to 7 with clubs having concerns over his knees, if George's medical checks out Selwood is just one example of why you do go down that path.

 

[sr36]

Yeah on the basis of eyeballs which then leads to advertising and BF is a competitor of ESPN’s for advertising revenue…

I think it would be a different story if Jon Ralph came on here linking us to a Hun article of his.

Heaps of cross promotional activity occurs on social media, but you've got to be a lot more subtle than KM was otherwise it'll be blocked for being the advertising it is..

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[Dynamics]

I wouldn't base a risk analysis on one or two cases like Selwood. I'd be looking at as much data as I can on junior knee injuries and the associated pattern of injury that follows. I sure as heck don't have access to that kind of detail so I'd just be guessing. But I do know I'd want the kid to have genuine star potential to even consider it to begin with.

 

[cityslick1]

Joel Selwood slid all the way to 7 with clubs having concerns over his knees, if George's medical checks out Selwood is just one example of why you do go down that path.

Selwood was also (part of) the reason Hine picked sharenberg. I don’t have an opinion either way on George, but there are also plenty of blown knee players who didn’t make it. Beau Muston also springs to mind…

 

[Apex36]

Selwood was also the reason Hine picked sharenberg. I don’t have an opinion either way on George, but there are also plenty of blown knee players who didn’t make it. Beau Muston also springs to mind…

What does stress fractures in the feet have to do with Joel Selwood? Scharenberg had no knee issues before being drafted, I doubt that Selwood would have been in anyones thoughts when they considered him. If anything, Josh Thomas would have been the case study for them, having had exactly the same feet issues at the start of his career.

 

[cityslick1]

What does stress fractures in the feet have to do with Joel Selwood? Scharenberg had no knee issues before being drafted, I doubt that Selwood would have been in anyones thoughts when they considered him. If anything, Josh Thomas would have been the case study for them, having had exactly the same feet issues at the start of his career.

Read serious leg injuries rather than being specific about knees. Hine was quoted as saying that Selwood turned out fine after a serious leg injury, so didn’t want to miss out on someone with similar talent, so took the risk on shaz and his feet.

 

[stixys121]

I really like the look of Lachie Cowan at 16, he's had a great year and should be ready to go round 1 next year.

 

[cityslick1]

I really like the look of Lachie Cowan at 16, he's had a great year and should be ready to go round 1 next year.

Like. Also fits a need for us, with Maynard the only player on the list with similar traits. Which btw are v handy at AFL level…

 

[Ugene41]

Selwood was also (part of) the reason Hine picked sharenberg. I don’t have an opinion either way on George, but there are also plenty of blown knee players who didn’t make it. Beau Muston also springs to mind…

Didn't Arlo Draper have injury issues before we drafted him?

With pick 16 it's worth taking the risk if you can get a top 10 talent. You'd only really worry with a top 10 pick which I guess is why players like him might slide.

 

[Masked Magician]

If we land Brayden George I'd be over the moon.

Kid is a jet!!!
And we could get him for unders

 

[Apex36]

Read serious leg injuries rather than being specific about knees. Hine was quoted as saying that Selwood turned out fine after a serious leg injury, so didn’t want to miss out on someone with similar talent, so took the risk on shaz and his feet.

Do you have a reference for this? I followed that draft really closely and remember no such comment.

 

[Jen2310]

We'll be taking 3 picks to the draft (I assume not counting Noble upgrade) according to Jeff Browne this afternoon
Whether its the first 3 and do something with pick 51, or upgrade somehow.. Not sure.

 

[partypie]

We'll be taking 3 picks to the draft (I assume not counting Noble upgrade) according to Jeff Browne this afternoon
Whether its the first 3 and do something with pick 51, or upgrade somehow.. Not sure.

That would mean we're targeting a DFA either before the draft or in the PSD. Or Jeff Browne has no bloody idea what he is talking about.

Still can't see an obvious DFA we'd be going after (based on list needs) and it doesn't make much sense to pick someone up in the PSD from 16th spot does it?