List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[Bearded Clam]

Surely he would considering for 1 of our 2 list spots.

what spots?…

have we moved sloane and seed to the inactive list now?.. though the club, via Nicksy’s own words, said they wouldnt be taking anyone in the MSD?.. apparently we’re too “stacked“ already..

power have just moved Pacini to the inactive.. so they have a spot..maybe port have told him they want him..

 

[Bearded Clam]

We drafted Parnell in the MSD a few years ago.

last year wasnt “a few years ago”?.. he hasnt even been at the club 12 months!..

do you have the memory of a goldfish ABAB..

 

[Crow till I die]

Surely he would considering for 1 of our 2 list spots.

pretty sure he had something like 3 or 4 touches for the whole game in his last game V Norwood - I'd cool the jetts there - he is still very raw

 

[George CantStandYa]

last year wasnt “a few years ago”?.. he hasnt even been at the club 12 months!..

do you have the memory of a goldfish ABAB..

It’s competing with all the basic football knowledge

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

What meaningful difference is there in terms of list management?

You’re not going to find many quality 25 year olds in the msd

 

[ABAB]

last year wasnt “a few years ago”?.. he hasnt even been at the club 12 months!..

do you have the memory of a goldfish ABAB..

Apologies, the 2020* and 2021** seasons are all a blur to me and sadly has also affected my basic football knowledge as well.

 

[Ticktak]

That's a long long time ago. I think he showed a bit as running defender for West Adelaide at U18's level but went undrafted
Surprised we'd have interest more a journey man than a star at SANFL level and at 25 it would be a strange addition IMO with so many youngsters to blood.

He played a lot of reserves footy for Westies as that inside bull with a nice kick.

A lot of recruiters were into him in his u/18 year but were worried about his attitude towards footy.

Seemed to have changed his life around but I agree, it would be a strange pick at his age.

 

[rabidcrow]

Sholl is a good player who’s got a great kick. But this is our opportunity to sell high and try to get a good pick.

Assuming Carlton finish top 8 and likely at best we would get a second round pick. So 4 years investment in a player that is undoubtedly AFL quality for say pick 30 ish?

Let’s trust our list management has more sense


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[AFC979810]

Sholl would go for a 3rd/4th round pick only. Say in the 40-50 range

And that is the worry - Looking at the draft from 2010 - 2015 here is a list of players in that 40 - 50 range that weren't F/S selections and played over 100 games:

2010 - Luke Parker (244), Alex Fasolo (104)
2011 - Jimmy Webster (121), Sam Rowe (100), Jordan Murdoch (122)
2012 - Tim Membrey (140)
2013 - Jake Koladashni (140), Tom Barras (105), Ben Brown (149)
2014 - Alex Neil Bullen (113), Caleb Daniel (143)
2015 - Blake Hardwick

Out of the 66 players selected between 12 were successful AFL players. Thats less than a 20% strike rate.

Draft is overated after pick 15 IMO.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

what spots?…

have we moved sloane and seed to the inactive list now?.. though the club, via Nicksy’s own words, said they wouldnt be taking anyone in the MSD?.. apparently we’re too “stacked“ already..

power have just moved Pacini to the inactive.. so they have a spot..maybe port have told him they want him..

If we want to we have 2 spots for Sloane & Seedsman.

Given we are in rebuild mode, we should be using this opportunity to find new talent.

 

[Pugsley]

And that is the worry - Looking at the draft from 2010 - 2015 here is a list of players in that 40 - 50 range that weren't F/S selections and played over 100 games:

2010 - Luke Parker (244), Alex Fasolo (104)
2011 - Jimmy Webster (121), Sam Rowe (100), Jordan Murdoch (122)
2012 - Tim Membrey (140)
2013 - Jake Koladashni (140), Tom Barras (105), Ben Brown (149)
2014 - Alex Neil Bullen (113), Caleb Daniel (143)
2015 - Blake Hardwick

Out of the 66 players selected between 12 were successful AFL players. Thats less than a 20% strike rate.

Draft is overated after pick 15 IMO.

Graham Johncock dislikes this

 

[AFC979810]

Graham Johncock dislikes this

Hey - if we can trade Sholl for pick 67 and it guarantees us a Stiffy Johncock clone - I am all in.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Assuming Carlton finish top 8 and likely at best we would get a second round pick. So 4 years investment in a player that is undoubtedly AFL quality for say pick 30 ish?

Let’s trust our list management has more sense


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Why do you automatically assume Carlton is a destination and that we’d get a pick 30ish in return?

 

[Rags_118]

And that is the worry - Looking at the draft from 2010 - 2015 here is a list of players in that 40 - 50 range that weren't F/S selections and played over 100 games:

2010 - Luke Parker (244), Alex Fasolo (104)
2011 - Jimmy Webster (121), Sam Rowe (100), Jordan Murdoch (122)
2012 - Tim Membrey (140)
2013 - Jake Koladashni (140), Tom Barras (105), Ben Brown (149)
2014 - Alex Neil Bullen (113), Caleb Daniel (143)
2015 - Blake Hardwick

Out of the 66 players selected between 12 were successful AFL players. Thats less than a 20% strike rate.

Draft is overated after pick 15 IMO.

2008 - Rory Sloane (233) from Pick 44

 

[rabidcrow]

Why do you automatically assume Carlton is a destination and that we’d get a pick 30ish in return?

Only that their has been a rumour floating around that Carlton have been looking good at him. But does it really matter who the destination club is? North aren’t giving pick 19 for him. So a pick somewhere from 25-40 is just 4 years of development on a new toy we hope works out. Sholl has shown plenty in his short career and we would be stupid to move him on


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[George CantStandYa]

And that is the worry - Looking at the draft from 2010 - 2015 here is a list of players in that 40 - 50 range that weren't F/S selections and played over 100 games:

2010 - Luke Parker (244), Alex Fasolo (104)
2011 - Jimmy Webster (121), Sam Rowe (100), Jordan Murdoch (122)
2012 - Tim Membrey (140)
2013 - Jake Koladashni (140), Tom Barras (105), Ben Brown (149)
2014 - Alex Neil Bullen (113), Caleb Daniel (143)
2015 - Blake Hardwick

Out of the 66 players selected between 12 were successful AFL players. Thats less than a 20% strike rate.

Draft is overated after pick 15 IMO.

What pick did we get for Lyons again? Also shows how shit the trade was for Keath.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Melbourne clubs informed as Fremantle defender shuts down contract negotiations

The Dockers have plenty of defensive options.

www.sen.com.au

Hmm

 

[skam85]

Can get him on a 6 month contract if he nominates it, so won't be long term, just for the rest of the season.

I get vibes that Hamish doesn't ever massively rate the mid-year draft.

We should do the opposite of what Hamish rates

 

[Scorpus]

A pick in the 40s is what you accept for a player that's playing mostly reserves, you don't really think is AFL quality or only has a few years left.

Minimum you'd want for a best 22 player is a second round pick

 

[chrisso crow]

Melbourne clubs informed as Fremantle defender shuts down contract negotiations

The Dockers have plenty of defensive options.

www.sen.com.au

Hmm

We should be having a good look at Freo KPD stocks if they have so many to choose from.

 

[LeftyLuke]

Melbourne clubs informed as Fremantle defender shuts down contract negotiations

The Dockers have plenty of defensive options.

www.sen.com.au

Hmm

Goneski

 

[Gtowncrow]

A pick in the 40s is what you accept for a player that's playing mostly reserves, you don't really think is AFL quality or only has a few years left.

Minimum you'd want for a best 22 player is a second round pick

Carlton have been active traders of late. Does anyone know what picks they have this year to bargain with?

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

Carlton have been active traders of late. Does anyone know what picks they have this year to bargain with?

1st Rounder (currently 15)

2nd Rounder (33)

4th Rounder (63)

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

A pick in the 40s is what you accept for a player that's playing mostly reserves, you don't really think is AFL quality or only has a few years left.

Minimum you'd want for a best 22 player is a second round pick

Yea, he has some obvious flaws but is still young and has weapons he can develop, it wouldn't be hard for the right club to think he would be valuable in their system.

And sometimes clubs will over pay for a player they like, just look at what North paid for CCJ and he's done FA.

 

[Dewy006]

Melbourne clubs informed as Fremantle defender shuts down contract negotiations

The Dockers have plenty of defensive options.

www.sen.com.au

Hmm

Wasn’t there a rumour on here that Freo were sniffing around Fog? I’d be very open to a Logue for Fog swap with whatever draft pick swaps to even it out.