Play Nice 2022 Non AFL Crowds/Ratings/Finance/Development thread

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Plenty of Australians working in the UK and the US
My point is, there are far more that do not, which sort of negates the comment "Strange that you wouldn't want to play your chosen sport overseas and get paid for it and take in others countries cultures", because its not strange, its rather normal.

And speaking as one who did live overseas, its not that the best and brightest go, and the rest stay, plenty of bog average Australians overseas.
 
My point is, there are far more that do not, which sort of negates the comment "Strange that you wouldn't want to play your chosen sport overseas and get paid for it and take in others countries cultures", because its not strange, its rather normal.

And speaking as one who did live overseas, its not that the best and brightest go, and the rest stay, plenty of bog average Australians overseas.

Also, compared to Australia, 99% of the world is an absolute craphole of a joint.
 
Strange that you wouldn't want to play your chosen sport overseas and get paid for it

It's like any profession. It's a question of how much money and the ties that bind.
There are very few people who have the qualifications and the lack of ties to make a long-term commitment.
and take in others countries cultures.

More like "something different".
"Culture" is something that attracts tourists but to an immigrant it's grappling with a new system of doing things.
i love the different cultures i have visited but as to living in these places, i would see it as a general negative.

Plenty of time to visit places in Australia when you have finished playing professionally overseas.

Plenty of time to visit places around the world when you have finished playing professionally in Australia.
I travel a lot now because I am in the position that I am in now.
IMO, you have to be an elite sports person to be able play overseas and come back with more money than if you'd stayed.
 
Football world cup saved the UK from going into recession.

Finally a sensible post - the power of sport to uplift.
All around the world we have various sporting events that have the power to lift the population's spirits (in general).
The NFL Superbowl happens every year so i would put that out there over a every four year event like the Olympics.
 

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There have been a couple of similar article on this the last couple of years that I have quoted from in other posts on the Port board. This one in 2021 gives a good long history of Nathan Chapman's work with his Prokick Australia academy


In a half a generation’s time, Australians have gone from football interlopers to standard-bearers. It is not just their massing ranks (this season, nearly 40 percent of Division 1 punters hail from the country) or statistical success (a pair of Australians lead the NFL in cumulative yardage); it is their reshaping of the sport’s interlude, its universal fridge break, into something worth sticking around for........
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Ask around among alums, and you’ll get different explanations for that success: the Aussie’s knack for boot on leather, Chapman’s eye for leg-swing and ear for contact, Smith’s pursuit of American coaches’ attention. But it tends to come back to something deeper. Almost everybody there, from founder to first-timer, has floundered elsewhere, and is now working to wrest success from setback. The punt is too perfect a metaphor. “If something’s not going well, how people in the States might throw a baseball, we chill out with our mates, kick a ball, release the energy,” Chapman told me. “It’s an expression of who we are.”
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Since the inaugural class in 2009, 182 Prokickers have won scholarships to U.S. colleges.

This Sports Illustrated article from 4 or 5 months


And whilst looking for the links I found this story about Oz punters that has even made Forbes 10 days ago.

 
There have been a couple of similar article on this the last couple of years that I have quoted from in other posts on the Port board. This one in 2021 gives a good long history of Nathan Chapman's work with his Prokick Australia academy.....

Similarly, Gaelic Football goalies are in demand for the EPL.
Tall basketballers are in demand as ruckmen.
Sprinters in demand for receivers.
All specialist positions.
 
There have been a couple of similar article on this the last couple of years that I have quoted from in other posts on the Port board. This one in 2021 gives a good long history of Nathan Chapman's work with his Prokick Australia academy


In a half a generation’s time, Australians have gone from football interlopers to standard-bearers. It is not just their massing ranks (this season, nearly 40 percent of Division 1 punters hail from the country) or statistical success (a pair of Australians lead the NFL in cumulative yardage); it is their reshaping of the sport’s interlude, its universal fridge break, into something worth sticking around for........
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Ask around among alums, and you’ll get different explanations for that success: the Aussie’s knack for boot on leather, Chapman’s eye for leg-swing and ear for contact, Smith’s pursuit of American coaches’ attention. But it tends to come back to something deeper. Almost everybody there, from founder to first-timer, has floundered elsewhere, and is now working to wrest success from setback. The punt is too perfect a metaphor. “If something’s not going well, how people in the States might throw a baseball, we chill out with our mates, kick a ball, release the energy,” Chapman told me. “It’s an expression of who we are.”
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Since the inaugural class in 2009, 182 Prokickers have won scholarships to U.S. colleges.

This Sports Illustrated article from 4 or 5 months


And whilst looking for the links I found this story about Oz punters that has even made Forbes 10 days ago.

Seems to have shifted from actual AFL players to people who play Aussie Rules and are willing to do the effort and time with prokick.

it is interesting how punting has changed in 20 years.

As preparations for the 2023 Women's World Cup in Australia and New Zealand reach their final stages, FIFA has announced that more than 500,000 tickets have already been sold — but, don't fear, more are on the way.

Fans from 129 countries have bought tickets to the inaugural 32-team tournament, with punters from the two co-hosting nations leading the way, followed by the United States, England, Qatar, Germany, China, Canada, the Republic of Ireland and France

The record for a womens world cup is 1.35 Mil in Canada in 2015. FIFA are aiming for at least 1.5Mil. Reckon they will smash that. There are a lot more games for one bue womens football has grown a lot in the last few years.
 
Seems to have shifted from actual AFL players to people who play Aussie Rules and are willing to do the effort and time with prokick.

Current AFL players are too expensive. Cheaper to target amateurs with good kicking ability.

it is interesting how punting has changed in 20 years.

NFL is a super conservative league and changes have been hard fought mainly from Aussie punters
who have the confidence to act outside of the box.

womens soccer has grown a lot in the last few years.

Around the world , but in Australia ?
Anyway it will be interesting to see.
 
Seems to have shifted from actual AFL players to people who play Aussie Rules and are willing to do the effort and time with prokick.
The early days was about ex AFL players with a huge kick, at the end of their career going and giving it a go, as they had nothing much to lose - Darren Bennett, Sav Rocca, Ben Graham and Nathan Chapman who out of it, saw the opportunity at the next level down.

Prokick is about giving guys in their early twenties, who have a huge kick on them, but aren't necessarily the athletic beasts the AFL system wants, an opportunity to win a scholarship at a decent college, get a good education, have an interesting 4 years compared to a normal life at home working and playing amateur footy. And if there is real talent, get signed up by an NFL team and make more money than most AFL players do.
 
Current AFL players are too expensive. Cheaper to target amateurs with good kicking ability.



NFL is a super conservative league and changes have been hard fought mainly from Aussie punters
who have the confidence to act outside of the box.



Around the world , but in Australia ?
Anyway it will be interesting to see.
Doesn't matter what the sport itself has done in Australia.

Women's Soccer is seen generally as a more serious elite sport than it was even a decade ago.

This means it will attract event goers, who may not have bothered in the past.

If you announced in the past that you watched the women's World cup, you could expect a response of "really? Why".

Not so much these days.

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Doesn't matter what the sport itself has done in Australia.

if you're talking about sport in Australia then it's obvious it's history in Australia is important.

Women's Soccer is seen generally as a more serious elite sport than it was even a decade ago.

"More serious". Strange phrasing. Yes, women's sport in general has grown in Australia
but it's a question of relativity and degree.

This means it will attract event goers, who may not have bothered in the past.

yes, but it's a question of relativity and degree.

If you announced in the past that you watched the women's World cup, you could expect a response of "really? Why".

Never heard that but it's a question of relativity and degree.
 
if you're talking about sport in Australia then it's obvious it's history in Australia is important.



"More serious". Strange phrasing. Yes, women's sport in general has grown in Australia
but it's a question of relativity and degree.



yes, but it's a question of relativity and degree.



Never heard that but it's a question of relativity and degree.
Matildas have broken crowd records year after year. They will smash it soon. Selling out 80K seat stadium is no joke in any sport, let alone womens.

W-league(sorry, ALW) hasn't grown much but they have lost a lot of talent to the increasingly professional sides of Europe. This comes back to Sam Kerr. Sam Kerr would be in the top tier of known female sports stars, which wouldn't have happened if she didn't move overseas. Which builds the Matildas.
 
Yes, proof is in the pudding not in the rose coloured glasses outlook.
Shoulda woulda coulda gunna. heard it all before.
If anything soccer has lost ground
they were averaging getting 2,000 crowds back in the 00's and early 10's. Now, the Matildas are getting 10K min for every game and breaking records. If you even can't concede that point, then there is no point in this discussion

got better things to do
 
Seems to have shifted from actual AFL players to people who play Aussie Rules and are willing to do the effort and time with prokick.

it is interesting how punting has changed in 20 years.



The record for a womens world cup is 1.35 Mil in Canada in 2015. FIFA are aiming for at least 1.5Mil. Reckon they will smash that. There are a lot more games for one bue womens football has grown a lot in the last few years.
The A League Womens comp get s**t crowds!
Western Sydney Wanderers V Melbourne Victory 436 and Perth Glory v Wellington Phoenix 700 this week already!
 
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