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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement
 
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I wish we went full Donald Trump with port:

"And theyve been talking to him all year... David Koch... Horrible name by the way, and quite frankly a horrible person. Just the worst. He's been talking to young, sweet innocent Jason trying to get him to sign....(boo)

And Jason, who's really just a boy.. a child, he wants to sign now. I don't blame him. They're saying it's a million dollars a year. A million dollars - I couldn't believe it.

And now, they're saying "here... Take Bonner". Bonner who? I've never even heard of the guy. A million dollars a year.. here take Bonner.

Port are a mess... They've had Ken for 10 years, their members are angry... They need Jason. You want Jason, guess what you mother*ers, youre paying for Jason."


Not a Trump fan but I wish we did it.
Well done! This is brilliant
 
If they can get Brisbanes pick with some trades and the left overs of the Rioli deal, it’s a good result.

8, 15 and 2023 R1.


Pick 15 might net us Cowan who could easily be as good as Bergman or Sinn.
We need to get a pick in the top 5 and another 6-10 and their future 1st...
 
Did JHF's first year live up to our high hopes that he would be a superstar? Did his form this year increase his value?
Don’t worry I think he will be a superstar, he just didn’t bother trying with us because he was most likely out the door before we drafted him.

I just hope he’s a superstar that goes down the same path as Buckley, watching his former club be successful while he keeps falling short.
 
I wish we went full Donald Trump with port:

"And theyve been talking to him all year... David Koch... Horrible name by the way, and quite frankly a horrible person. Just the worst. He's been talking to young, sweet innocent Jason trying to get him to sign....(boo)

And Jason, who's really just a boy.. a child, he wants to sign now. I don't blame him. They're saying it's a million dollars a year. A million dollars - I couldn't believe it.

And now, they're saying "here... Take Bonner". Bonner who? I've never even heard of the guy. A million dollars a year.. here take Bonner.

Port are a mess... They've had Ken for 10 years, their members are angry... They need Jason. You want Jason, guess what you mother*ers, youre paying for Jason."


Not a Trump fan but I wish we did it.
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I absolutely understand that. Getting Pick 7 is the bit that everyone is really hoping for. I will be ecstatic if that comes to fruition.

All I'm saying is that in a direct comparison between Bonner and Bowes, stats wise there is not much difference. And when they get out there on the field I'm not sure that having been instrumental in us getting Pick 7, should that happen, will see many of us forgive him if he turns out to be a "good ordinary" footballer. The same with Bonner as the steak knives if the rest of the deal is a really good one.

Absolutely Horace, I wasn't having a go at you as I understood the point you were making.
 
I wish we went full Donald Trump with port:

"And theyve been talking to him all year... David Koch... Horrible name by the way, and quite frankly a horrible person. Just the worst. He's been talking to young, sweet innocent Jason trying to get him to sign....(boo)

And Jason, who's really just a boy.. a child, he wants to sign now. I don't blame him. They're saying it's a million dollars a year. A million dollars - I couldn't believe it.

And now, they're saying "here... Take Bonner". Bonner who? I've never even heard of the guy. A million dollars a year.. here take Bonner.

Port are a mess... They've had Ken for 10 years, their members are angry... They need Jason. You want Jason, guess what you mother*ers, youre paying for Jason."


Not a Trump fan but I wish we did it.

POTY
 
What’s really interesting is that I know just as much about bonner as Bowes. 2/5ths of * all.

How do you campaigners know so much but every player from every club?
Super coach. I watch 9 games every weekend and cheer my sc players like they play for north.
 
Port do Georgiadies + 2023 R1 > WCE > 2023 R1 (preying on WCE arrogance that they'll rise up the ladder)

Port give us a 8+27, 2023 R1 (WCE) for Judas.

And I reckon we have a deal gentles.
Port - Georgiadies and pick 8 to WC for Rioli and pick 2

Pick2 and Ports future 1st for JHF

We grab Wardlaw and Cadman with 2 first rounders coming next year. Puts us in a strong position for 2 drafts or to recruit a big name with next years 2 x round 1s.

Id be very hesitant to take much in the way of steak knives. Wardlaw, Cadman and Logue sorts us out in defense, in the middle and for big forwards. We already have plenty gunning for flank, wing, pocket spots. We could likely use a ruck, but give it a year and see if CCJ or Xerri can step up.
 
Two first round picks is plenty. You guys are seriously over rating JHF
Not to get into a slinging match but at one stage this year you said LDU was a C grade footballer, not the best judge. Maybe you’re underrating JHF. His ceiling is generational, will he get to that? Who knows. But if Port want him right now, they can pay up for that generational potential.
 
What’s really interesting is that I know just as much about bonner as Bowes. 2/5ths of * all.

How do you campaigners know so much but every player from every club?
I have custom Taro cards and a network of undesirables who owe me their very existence. And Google.
 

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How is it within the rules that a chairman of another club can contact a player, manager, and his parents multiple times in the first year of his AFL rookie contract? AFL absolutely lacks in anti tampering rules.

North should be submitting that Kochie sound bite straight to the afl. They’ve been tapping up this kid since the draft, odds on before the draft too. Scum.
Exactly. Even soccer, a sport governed by some of the most corrupt organisations in the world punishes for this.

Chelsea did it to an Arsenal player that was contracted (Cashley Cole). Chelsea was hit with a 300k fine and 3 point deduction, Cole 75k, mourinho (chelsea manager) 75k fine (initially 200k), and Cole's manager was given a 100k fine plus had his licence revoked for 18 months.

Here you have kochie openly speaking about it...an example should be made. Everyone involved should be punished. I know they can't now but rules should be put in place so this can't happen in the future. Do what the EPL does and ban it until the final 6 months of their contract.
 
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If they can get Brisbanes pick with some trades and the left overs of the Rioli deal, it’s a good result.

8, 15 and 2023 R1.


Pick 15 might net us Cowan who could easily be as good as Bergman or Sinn.

Or could all be shit. That is the risk you take when you shotgun, the risk you take when you go for a top of the line is they might not come good or injuries might ruin their career/potential.

The kind of picks and players Port is offering are ho hum, we can get that kind of shit in a good Brad Scott year, it was getting that calibre of pick top end pick, we kind of lucked out with LDU. I don't think we should cheaply sell off JHF because when we go up the ladder we are going to get these types of picks, nobody is going to gift us a great pick 1 player for the chump change Port is offering.

Understand that the difference in attitude they have with Butters vs the difference they have with JHF. If they had JHF and he was Victorian and he wanted to go back to Victoria, do you think they would take pick 8 a future 1st that could be 12+ and some potato that can't get a game for them?

The language going on is worrisome because it is just bullshit that is trying to equate landfill to beachside property, quality>quantity. You can't say do you want to swap a top of the line Ferrari for an equivalent value of Toyotas, you only gonna drive the one car, quality > quantity.

When Carlton went after Judd, they gave a topline kid and picks, different ballgame but same concept, they didn't accept a bag of shit picks, it was win-win, I mean, Carlton were shit and Judd couldn't perform miracles, but they were adequately compensated. We would have to get extremely lucky to come out remotely close with this bag of shit. A pick 1 player after one year, we need something of quality in exchange and pick 8 is a roll of the dice.
 
Riley Bonner aka the Aldi Jasper Pittard
 
Not to get into a slinging match but at one stage this year you said LDU was a C grade footballer, not the best judge. Maybe you’re underrating JHF. His ceiling is generational, will he get to that? Who knows. But if Port want him right now, they can pay up for that generational potential.

LDU a C grader hahaha


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Now onto the topic of any other additions outside on the JHF deal.
I wonder if anything else will pop up.
I hope we are still banging on the saints door about Clark...although that seems to have fizzled out.
Any other links at this stage?
 
Port - Georgiadies and pick 8 to WC for Rioli and pick 2

Pick2 and Ports future 1st for JHF

We grab Wardlaw and Cadman with 2 first rounders coming next year. Puts us in a strong position for 2 drafts or to recruit a big name with next years 2 x round 1s.

Id be very hesitant to take much in the way of steak knives. Wardlaw, Cadman and Logue sorts us out in defense, in the middle and for big forwards. We already have plenty gunning for flank, wing, pocket spots. We could likely use a ruck, but give it a year and see if CCJ or Xerri can step up.
This is a very realistic possibility.
 
I think the mistake with JHF from amateur hour Brady is he set the tone that we are going to accept something shit. He should have said we want a top 5 pick this year and top 10 pick next year. I don't care how you do it, come back to me with the picks or don't come back at all, I think Crows will do this next year if he doesn't change his mind.
 
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