List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part II

[bird_man]

Really don't think it's the best way to help a club like North for a few reasons.

1. They're limited to a small pool of talent - players that are willing to go to North, and would be gettable for a future 2nd or future 3rd.... there aren't going to be many players in that pool that will help North significantly long term.
2. They have to be traded, gives the club no leverage. They will have to pay overs now.

If I were a North fan, I'd be asking why they even bothered to offer the "assistance" in the first place.

There are already players interested in going to North that would suit those pick values though

Logue, Hill, Tucker for example

I'm almost certain the AFL would have had these players in mind when thinking about what they give them

So they are essentially getting 2 or 3 of those players for nothing, whilst keeping their full draft hand for next year

I don't think that's anything to scoff at

 

[gringo2011]

They still reckon they can get Clark for that future second

The Saints had better not even toy with that idea.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

So it looks like Hill & Clark are staying

 

[bird_man]

So it looks like Hill & Clark are staying

What makes you say that?

 

[sauce_head]

What makes you say that?

I suspect insufficient value in the picks North currently hold.

 

[BrutThough]

The selections won't carry into 2023 for North Melbourne if they are not traded this year, but will be tied to North's finishing position next year for whoever ends up with them, creating a marketplace for rival clubs to take them from the Roos.


BrutThough

Start of Round would have been better given Hill would make them better, but should still end up an early 20s pick for whoever gets the 2nd rounder.

 

[bird_man]

I suspect insufficient value in the picks North currently hold.

They have plenty of currency to land Hill

And unfortunately I don't think North would be the only club sniffing around Clark

 

[Premium]

What makes you say that?

I would expect the powers at the club will be wanting replacements as good or better and if they don't get them they stay as contracted players.
Ratten's future in the balance and he would not want to lose 2 players in our best 22 for a couple average draft picks.

 

[stavro#4]

So it looks like Hill & Clark are staying

North aren’t the only club in for Clark.

I’m taking no credit for this if it turns out to be correct.

But someone else confirmed and they can attach their name to it if they want.

But GWS is a club keen.

 

[snails13]

Logue for a future 2nd
Hill for a future 2nd
Tucker for a future 3rd
Take a fringe player in the PSD

Can't see how they get Clark though without splitting either this year's or next years first

Think Tucker is staying in Perth Birdy.

 

[BrutThough]

North aren’t the only club in for Clark.

I’m taking no credit for this if it turns out to be correct.

But someone else confirmed and they can attach their name to it if they want.

But GWS is a club keen.

GWS would be better for us if he left. They will have first rounders to spare.

 

[Yawkey way]

GWS would be better for us if he left. They will have first rounders to spare.

Players as well.

 

[snails13]

North aren’t the only club in for Clark.

I’m taking no credit for this if it turns out to be correct.

But someone else confirmed and they can attach their name to it if they want.

But GWS is a club keen.

Perfect team to get 1st Rd Pick
But hope he stays

 

[stavro#4]

GWS would be better for us if he left. They will have first rounders to spare.

They’ll have plenty of picks.

Spitballing with the pm group we came up with heaps of appealing structures and creative ways to satisfy for us.

3 + 12 for Clark + 9?

Finn Callaghan + 12 for Clark + 9?


They could potentially be an ideal trade partner.

But as I said. Spitballing.

 

[crasha301]

GWS would be better for us if he left. They will have first rounders to spare.

Agreed, and if we paid a little of the contract I'm sure it would help get an even better pick as they have salary cap issues.

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[bird_man]

GWS would be better for us if he left. They will have first rounders to spare.

They will likely end up with 12, 19 and another future first (Richmond)

12 is probably the best we could hope for for Clark

 

[bird_man]

They’ll have plenty of picks.

Spitballing with the pm group we came up with heaps of appealing structures and creative ways to satisfy for us.

3 + 12 for Clark + 9?

Finn Callaghan + 12 for Clark + 9?


They could potentially be an ideal trade partner.

But as I said. Spitballing.

Can't see any of that happening unfortunately

Giants won't be trading down from 3. They love their high picks.

Can't see them including Callaghan in any trade either

 

[BrutThough]

They’ll have plenty of picks.

Spitballing with the pm group we came up with heaps of appealing structures and creative ways to satisfy for us.

3 + 12 for Clark + 9?

Finn Callaghan + 12 for Clark + 9?


They could potentially be an ideal trade partner.

But as I said. Spitballing.

I'd take Richmond's first straight out.

Go into the draft with picks 9 and 13, try to nab one of GC's 2nd rounders for Long. Try to get a forward option with a later pik.

4 picks in the first 4 rounds, an added forward and finish the list with a one or two of our delisted player finds which we have been fairly good at.

 

[crasha301]

They will likely end up with 12, 19 and a mother future first (Richmond)

12 is probably the best we could hope for for Clark

I think that's a fair result too.

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[SaintSteele9]

There are already players interested in going to North that would suit those pick values though

Logue, Hill, Tucker for example

I'm almost certain the AFL would have had these players in mind when thinking about what they give them

So they are essentially getting 2 or 3 of those players for nothing, whilst keeping their full draft hand for next year

I don't think that's anything to scoff at

Spot on here for mine Birdy. Looks like it will make for some clean and simple trade movement without any “actual” sacrifice on North’s part which is a great outcome for them and pretty savvy work from the AFL.

 

[snails13]

Pick 19 or 20 for Hill from North and then involve GC and Brisbane for Long trade and swap of picks

 

[BrutThough]

They will likely end up with 12, 19 and another future first (Richmond)

12 is probably the best we could hope for for Clark

Would probably seem a bit generous, but having someone nominate them might make them feel more generous.

Plus given they want more for Hooper being contracted, they also need to be willing to give more for a contracted player.

That said, I'd rather Clark stays.

 

[stavro#4]

Can't see any of that happening unfortunately

Giants won't be trading down from 3. They love their high picks.

Can't see them including Callaghan in any trade either

I'd take Richmond's first straight out.

Go into the draft with picks 9 and 13, try to nab one of GC's 2nd rounders for Long. Try to get a forward option with a later pik.

4 picks in the first 4 rounds, an added forward and finish the list with a one or two of our delisted player finds which we have been fairly good at.

As I said.

They appear to be the best partner with a real need for someone like Clark. We just spitballed what could mutually beneficial deals look like.

Ask for 2 firsts. Be unreasonable etc.

Shake the tree and see what falls out.

And just to be clear. It’s not a forgone conclusion Clark leaves.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

I’m just checking in to see if the Jordy news has broken yet.

 

[Mowman]

I’m just checking in to see if the Jordy news has broken yet.

Jordy is a Saint if you supply the Sangers