List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant

 

[GingerDocker]

There are some seriously weird takes on Ras in this thread.

 

[freo_leo29]

I still think Erasmus' ceiling is Dangerfield, with his floor probably LDU, so we're going to be fine IMO.

RAS doesn't have dangerfields pace or burst


He's more of a Matt Crouch to me

 

[freo_leo29]

We shouldn't put a ceiling on him yet. I think he'll be a similar player to Gulden.

You don't mean Erasmus here right? Gulden is one of the best kicks in the league

 

[Joao]

RAS doesn't have dangerfields pace or burst


He's more of a Matt Crouch to me

I think if you're being generous, he could be a tackling, non-floggish Cripps or potentially even Fyfe (not the level obvs). Large with power from size, but not a lot of speed. Even if he was Fyfe without the marking, that would be great.

 

[Joao]

Ras is a hard running midfielder that kicks goals and wins clearences. Maybe not Gulden but idk who else he compares to.

Yeah I think Gulden is a long way off.

He's a contested inside player who runs both ways and tackles. A cross between Fyfe and Andy (but probably not as good as either although we can dream).

 

[wakojako]

You don't mean Erasmus here right? Gulden is one of the best kicks in the league

Ras is a hard running midfielder that kicks goals and wins clearences. Maybe not Gulden but idk who else he compares to. As someone pointed out maybe Crouch is a good comparison.

 

[Dayts]

Rory Sloane

9

Rory Sloane

Age

35

Ht

183cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

11.9

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

6.6

5star

CL

5.7

5star

D

15.3

4star

K

7.3

3star

HB

8.0

4star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.3

4star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

13.6

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

6.0

5star

CL

4.6

5star

/ Luke Parker

26

Luke Parker

Age

33

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.8

5star

D

22.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

9.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

5.0

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

8.0

5star

CL

5.2

5star

type.

Hard working type with some X factor, lacks polish but makes up for it with effort and some arial capabilities.

Not sure where that fits into our future mid mix.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Ras is a hard running midfielder that kicks goals and wins clearences. Maybe not Gulden but idk who else he compares to.

If he truly comes on, his ceiling is Cunnington which would be amazing. Not sure he has the girth there but it's the best comparison I can think of as a contested beast that's not particularly fast but also defensive. Sorry Jako but I think Gulden is a completely different player

 

[Joao]

Parker is a good call actually. Similar body shape at least.

 

[wakojako]

Parker is a good call actually. Similar body shape at least.

Parker is 183cm and 88kg. Ras is 190 cm and 82 kg. So in a few years Ras will be much taller and bulkier than Parker.

 

[Big Animal]

Parker is 183cm and 88kg. Ras is 190 cm and 82 kg. So in a few years Ras will be much taller and bulkier than Parker.

and he's 4 inches taller than crouch so interesting earlier comparison too. Would be nice if we just got some games into Ras for next year.

 

[wakojako]

and he's 4 inches taller than crouch so interesting earlier comparison too. Would be nice if we just got some games into Ras for next year.

Similar build to Dawson but idk if he plays a similar role to him.

 

[Purple dynamite]

I always thought his ceiling would be a 6 foot Ben Cousins.
Minus the drama obviously.

 

[Taylor]

Erasmus needs to be the first hands on the ball, handball to Johnson and to do that he needs to be carrying the muscle to get pounded for two hours and remain in the contest.

I have high expectations for him. He is very bottom aged for his draft year and is being compared to the likes of Johnson who got to spend the back half of a preseason and start of the season in the gym diverting effort and calories into gaining size while Erasmus was running his arse off, literally. It meant Johnson needed to build his running slowly end of last year but should Erasmus have a lower leg injury he will come back a monster in six to twelve months.

 

[Taylor]

Erasmus in two years is the player we would play on the opposition's version of Fyfe.

25 touches, 15 handballs, no clearances but ten score involvements and ten tackles.

Then we build his running with that size to make his opponent accountable when we have the ball, he leads into space to take marks when we move the ball out of defence.

He will be a weapon.

 

[Sully90]

So what I'm getting is Erasmus will be a mix of Dangerfield, Fyfe, Gulden, LDU, Parker, Cousins, Sloane, Cripps, and Cunnington.

 

[Arkhitect]

So what I'm getting is Erasmus will be a mix of Dangerfield, Fyfe, Gulden, LDU, Parker, Cousins, Sloane, Cripps, and Cunnington.

Don't forget to add a bit of Dusty and Bont in there.

 

[Purple Suit]

So what I'm getting is Erasmus will be a mix of Dangerfield, Fyfe, Gulden, LDU, Parker, Cousins, Sloane, Cripps, and Cunnington.

The best bits.

 

[gungho]

RAS doesn't have dangerfields pace or burst

Agree, Erasmus is pretty slow. It’s quite noticeable when you watch him live. Does not mean he can’t be an awesome afl player though.

He's more of a Matt Crouch to me

 

[Taylor]

He doesn't need to be fast, he just needs to be big enough to control the space around him so the ball either ends up in the hands of his team mates or the umpire again.

We do need pace out of the stoppage but Jackson has that and we could have dedicated second team plans.

 

[wakojako]

he needs to be carrying the muscle to get pounded for two hours

 

[Joao]

Similar build to Dawson but idk if he plays a similar role to him.

Nothing like him either really.

 

[Alfonz]

All of these comparisons for Erasmus, and I am surprised nobody has thought of our own backyard and one Michael Barlow. Pretty much the same attributes ... big mid, ball winner, defensive, average field kick but can kick goals, slowish off the mark but will run all day. Same also applies to Crowley apart from the ball winning (but that was never his role). I think Erasmus can end up somewhere in between the two as his floor.

 

[Docker82]

I find it frustrating watching how good he is when I was calling to draft him in the MSD a few years back. Honestly would rather have been wrong in wanting him.

Another suggestion is Jack Carroll. Has he been Carlton'ed? Contracted until 2024, so maybe we wait it out and see how he progresses and then try and lure him back if he looks OK.

In some ways Martin is strange one. I took an interest in watching him at WAFL.

There was quite a bit to like - good skills, good athleticism, nice size etc. My criticism of him at the time would've been he didn't get enough of the ball. Still wanted him in the rookie draft that year though - I'm sure those posts would still be around somewhere.

Essendon virtually played him in role that helped him get more of the footy almost straight away and he did.

 

[Joao]

All of these comparisons for Erasmus, and I am surprised nobody has thought of our own backyard and one Michael Barlow. Pretty much the same attributes ... big mid, ball winner, defensive, average field kick but can kick goals, slowish off the mark but will run all day. Same also applies to Crowley apart from the ball winning (but that was never his role). I think Erasmus can end up somewhere in between the two as his floor.

Ras isn't fast, but he's not Barlow slow either.