Analysis 2023 Mid Season Draft

[whiskeytown]

Wednesday May 31st

Collingwood currently have no picks.

Will they put a player like Lipinski on the LTI list and take a MSD pick?

Also who is likely to go #1 in the MSD? Who are the MSD prospects?

Discuss

 

[Soups]

Wednesday May 31st

Collingwood currently have no picks.

Will they put a player like Lipinski on the LTI list and take a MSD pick?

Also who is likely to go #1 in the MSD? Who are the MSD prospects?

Discuss

Luke Teal and Kobe Ryan looking like good number 1 picks atm. Ryan super unlucky to go undrafted last year, has started the year really well.

Sam Lowson is absolutely turning one on in the VFL atm. Was super unlucky not to get picked up in the first ever MSD, went down with an ankle injury shortly before.

Ethan Phillips still looking AFL quality defender.

There are actually a fair share of solid looking prospects this year imo.

 

[Jen2310]

Wednesday May 31st

Collingwood currently have no picks.

Will they put a player like Lipinski on the LTI list and take a MSD pick?

Also who is likely to go #1 in the MSD? Who are the MSD prospects?

Discuss

You'd have to rule someone out for the entire year to put them on the LT1 list. Lippa is already doing non contact drills. They won't go down that path.
If anyone, Howe would be more likely. But even that, I'm not sure they'd do. We may just not go down the MSD road this year, unless something happens in the next few weeks.

 

[Matt_352]

Barring a new season ending injury, we won't put any of the current injured players on the LTI as we are hoping to get all of then back.

 

[TheMiracle]

What about Dean? he's gone for the year, or doesn't it count because he's a rookie?

 

[stormskye]

What about Dean? he's gone for the year, or doesn't it count because he's a rookie?

Markov is took his spot

 

[TheMiracle]

Markov is took his spot

Of course, damn, barely have a tall left and still don't have a vacancy

 

[whiskeytown]

You'd have to rule someone out for the entire year to put them on the LT1 list. Lippa is already doing non contact drills. They won't go down that path.
If anyone, Howe would be more likely. But even that, I'm not sure they'd do. We may just not go down the MSD road this year, unless something happens in the next few weeks.

Didn’t Lipinski require a further shoulder op recently? There were still issues after the first op?

Might be conservative with bring him back this year. Can’t keep doing repeated shoulders

 

[Jen2310]

Didn’t Lipinski require a further shoulder op recently? There were still issues after the first op?

Might be conservative with bring him back this year. Can’t keep doing repeated shoulders

Had his surgery in Feb after his injury in the pre-season. He explains it here. Fly in his presser a couple days ago said he is looking forward to getting him back.
The injury this year was different from the one he did last year.

 

[Jafo]

Wednesday May 31st

Collingwood currently have no picks.

Will they put a player like Lipinski on the LTI list and take a MSD pick?

Also who is likely to go #1 in the MSD? Who are the MSD prospects?

Discuss

Would have thought Kruger be closer to being eligible for LTI listing?

 

[manicpie]

Would have thought Kruger be closer to being eligible for LTI listing?

They way he's going, it's just a matter of time

 

[sr36]

Would have thought Kruger be closer to being eligible for LTI listing?

It's Long Term Injury list not a LoTs of Injuries list.

 

[Hardas]

Right now, the only potential other LTI would be Howey.

From what he was saying recently, he's still a long way off.

 

[Jafo]

It's Long Term Injury list not a LoTs of Injuries list.

What if those lots of injuries become long term?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Howe and lipinski are best 22. There’s no way they are being put on the LTI list if there’s a decent chance of being back for finals.

 

[TradeDraft]

Howe and lipinski are best 22. There’s no way they are being put on the LTI list if there’s a decent chance of being back for finals.

I thought Long Term Injury List meant you where out 10-12 Weeks

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I thought Long Term Injury List meant you where out 10-12 Weeks

Nope. To open up a spot you have to create a spot. Whoever gets put on LTI is out for the season.

I reckon back 20 years ago when the rookie list required promotion…..you could temporarily promote somebody from the rookie list if there was an injury but you had to drop them back when the injured player came back.

I recall an Essendon player who got a Standing ovation at the end of the game…..because according to the rules he was forced to go back to the seconds the next week as a senior player was due back from 8njury.

 

[TheMiracle]

I thought Long Term Injury List meant you where out 10-12 Weeks

I was thinking the same, when did it become the full season?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I was thinking the same, when did it become the full season?

As per my previous post I think you are confusing the mid season draft with the rookie list under previous rules.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Nope. To open up a spot you have to create a spot. Whoever gets put on LTI is out for the season.

I reckon back 20 years ago when the rookie list required promotion…..you could temporarily promote somebody from the rookie list if there was an injury but you had to drop them back when the injured player came back.

I recall an Essendon player who got a Standing ovation at the end of the game…..because according to the rules he was forced to go back to the seconds the next week as a senior player was due back from 8njury.

Think it was Damien peverill?

 

[TheMiracle]

As per my previous post I think you are confusing the mid season draft with the rookie list under previous rules.

Normally I'd back my infallible drug and alcohol addled memory but I have tapered off in my old age unfortunately

 

[jmac70]

Right now, the only potential other LTI would be Howey.

From what he was saying recently, he's still a long way off.

Yep, have a feeling Howe might not get back this year.

 

[35Daicos]

Last year we put Nathan Kreuger on the Inactive List (in May), and the media insisted that meant he was not able to play for the rest of the season. Our club website pretty much said the same thing. So it was quite a shock to most of us when he made a return to the side late in the year! We could have had two picks in last year's MSD thanks to the Kreuger injury and Jordan Roughead

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Jordan Roughead

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

132.4

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.5

3star

T

1.1

2star

MG

82.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

4.4

2star

HB

8.0

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

's retirement (we only took Carmichael).

This should explain the "loophole" that allowed Kreuger to play again in 2022: UPDATED: Eagles duo moved to inactive list... for now

 

[Bogsey]

I'm not across the rules, but surely with Howe's long term injury, we'd have another spot available, wouldn't we?

 

[35Daicos]

I'm not across the rules, but surely with Howe's long term injury, we'd have another spot available, wouldn't we?

It still should be the case that if we ruled him out (and opened up a spot in the MSD) we wouldn't be able to recall him later in the season (assuming he was fully fit again) unless someone else picked up a season-ending injury (or retired). So we'd be taking quite a risk, given that Howe is still seen as a first team regular when available. It would be a bold move (even given our usual bad luck with injuries!), and I'm not sure the club would want to take that risk.