Review 2023 National Draft Review Thread II [McKercher, Z.Duursma, Goad, W.Dawson, Hardeman, Maley]

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Would be nice if it panned out this way, take McKercher, Duursma, Murphy, Green, and Schoenmaker.

Back in 5.

 

[Farthers]

20, I believe. Walter, Read, Croft, Rogers, and McCabe all get selected before our pick according to Twomey. It also implies that we were the ones to bid on Walter and McCabe.

Yup, I missed McCabe at 19.

 

[hellas_johnny]

Would be nice if it panned out this way, take McKercher, Duursma, Murphy, Green, and Schoenmaker.

With Murphy we wouldn't need schoenmaker and would be better off getting a forward in Archer reid

 

[LB2Snake]

If we want McKercher, why would we trade pick 2 if we know WC will take him with that pick? In that case, we should be trading pick 3 instead.

Eagles want McK much more than they are letting on. Deal for 1 won't happen without pick 2

 

[Shermanator]

Is Ryley Trevor Marmalade's kid?..

 

[speedy]

while North are a year ahead and should be targeting the best kid out there to complement what we already have, if you can find the recording.

Yeah, and we have just as much chance of doing that with picks 2 & 3.

 

[spurs]

Hollands rather than Phillips:

Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, your club's whispers

Apart from Gulden it’s not a very good draft year so far.
I noticed Powell was a high possession ball winner (35), I hope this happens next year at AFL level

 

[My Left Foote]

That year we definitely didn’t feed him anything. He wasn’t even on the alternatives list.

That's because we never interviewed Phillips, no one knew we were taking him, not even us.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

If we want Geelong's P8 we have to take Sanders off the board early....that's who I reckon they want

Kerch + Sanders and then O’Sullivan/Curtin (if he slides).

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Apart from Gulden it’s not a very good draft year so far.
I noticed Powell was a high possession ball winner (35), I hope this happens next year at AFL level

If he can average 20 dpg that would be huge for us.

 

[Roo202]

Is Ryley Trevor Marmalade's kid?..


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Surely we get him father/son then?

 

[King Corey]

That's because we never interviewed Phillips, no one knew we were taking him, not even us.

Brady "I was drunk, it's hardly the end of the world"

Twomey looks at him alarmed.

Brady "We can edit that out right?"

Twomey points the flashing "ON AIR" sign.

Brady "shit"

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

With Murphy we wouldn't need schoenmaker and would be better off getting a forward in Archer reid

We have a dearth of key defensive talent, biggest hole on our list IMO. Dawson, Pink, and Nyuon are stop-gaps, would be a bonus if one of these guys could hold down a key defensive post in the medium to long term, but it is probably long odds. I wouldn't be using one of our late first rounders on A. Reid, gives me Josh Schache vibes.

 

[shinboner magic]

I've watched a fair bit of footage of ZZ.

I don't really see "it" tbh.

He's played most of his footy as an undersized ruck. He moves like a mobile ruck like Bailey Williams rather than a hyper athletic KPD.

He's going to be an extremely slow burn.

I think I'd rather others with the capital it will cost. He's probably a good selection for WCE, as he can play plenty of WAFL and learn off Barrass and McGovern in his first 2 years on a list.


I didn't really like Rawlings explanations around our ruck stocks, It really seems like either Clarko or the recruiting staff have gone cold on the ruck position in general. Rawlings has seemed to indicate that he's happy with Xerri, CCJ, Free and Biggie as break glass backup.

I think that's a massive mistake. Xerri is a backup AFL ruckman, at best imo. CCJ has played maybe 6 qtrs in his entire AFL career as a first ruck and Free has never played an AFL game.

There's 3 really excellent ruck prospects that will be likely available at our last pick. All with really elite athletic profiles for their size.

Edwards is 206cm with a 94cm running vertical and a 3.00 second 20m. That means he has close to the same running vertical reach as Nic Natanui with that height and that vertical combo.

His speed is then similar to Zane Duursma and Harley Reid.

I think we are insane to pass up all of Edwards, Green or Goad.

Now none of these will make a difference next year, but they will in 3-4 years when we are finals contenders.

ZZ sounds like Durdin

 

[King Corey]

Eagles want McK much more than they are letting on. Deal for 1 won't happen without pick 2

WHAT I LOVE MOST ABOUT BIGFOOTY: framing speculation as a definitive statement

 

[LB2Snake]

WHAT I LOVE MOST ABOUT BIGFOOTY: framing speculation as a definitive statement

It just my opinion.....I'm suss on them.

Why didn't they take Hawks deal at 4 + +?

No one knows, but I'm suss I tells ya

 

[JGreezy]

Finally been watching some more Duursma and pretty impressive reach marking above his head on the lead. Looks like a mini Max King

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in that way. That 97cm running vertical helps, but also really stretches out.

 

[the big lebowski]

ZZ sounds like Durdin

Hmmmm

Maybe postioanlly as in they played their best footy at U18 level as undersized ruckmen.

But ZZ was top 10 nationally in speed, agility and leap. Durdin runs like a trex.

Durdin a beautiful kick when he could get it. ZZ is still learning to make contact with his foot when he kicks.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

ZZ sounds like Durdin

ZZ is just another media beat up.

Can't kick, contested handballs go straight to the opposition too often.

A lot to work with but a lot of improvement required just to make it to AFL level.

I'd rather stay away.

 

[chubbspeterson]

We won't be able to address all the holes on the list in one draft period. I'd prioritize at least one defender out of Murphy/Shoenmaker/Dawson in this draft and one key forward like Archer Reid/Logan Morris (if no Caddy on trade-up). A defender with good closing speed is probably a glaring need as well.

 

[The_General#1]

I think that's fairly obvious.

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Yep. So many think because Twomey doesn’t rate someone or when he puts out his rankings that those rankings are in stone. He’s good at picking the top 15 or so but after that he’s clueless like the rest of us. He’s not an AFL recruiter either.

 

[FlyHigh18]

reminder that twomey's ranking at this time of year are no longer based on best to worst, but simply the order in which he think's they'll be picked. It's why he gets it right so often.

 

[RHLK]

We have 5 'first round' picks after 4 years on the bottom. The AFL, and circumstances, have helped us out.

If WC are on the bottom next year the AFL will help them out.

We should use our 'once-in-a-lifetime' draft advantage this year, on our team, and not give away 3/5ths of it to WC.

Unless Reid comes with a guarantee.

 

[bennymate]

Keep and use all 5 picks, replace those we delisted with 15,17 and 18. WC can gagf.

 

[The_General#1]

reminder that twomey's ranking at this time of year are no longer based on best to worst, but simply the order in which he think's they'll be picked. It's why he gets it right so often.

Not after the mid teens he doesn’t. The Sydney recruiter even called him out on it last year.