VFL 2023 - Reserves Game Day discussion Rnds 1 - 22 (Merged threads)

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[ItsAllAboutMe]

What is it about Binns game that has him not being selected, on stats alone I would have thought he would have had a run in the 1s, but must be something Voss doesn’t like?

 

[charred_fate]

From the ground, thought Binns was BOG for us. Cunners, Martin and Cowan all up there.

Impressed by how clean they all were actually. Especially Cunners, given how little he’s played in two years.

 

[Jimmae]

What is it about Binns game that has him not being selected, on stats alone I would have thought he would have had a run in the 1s, but must be something Voss doesn’t like?

He'll have times where he shows an inability to break away, or at least execute a kick that would generate results at AFL level simply due to his speed not being as consistently elite alongside his endurance.

I think he ironed that out a bit today and made a lot of good decisions in terms of how and where to execute so that it was athletically within himself, but expect to see the odd wobbly floater until he's more across the cadence of AFL football.

I'd play him though, 100%.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

He'll have times where he shows an inability to break away, or at least execute a kick that would generate results at AFL level simply due to his speed not being as consistently elite alongside his endurance.

I think he ironed that out a bit today and made a lot of good decisions in terms of how and where to execute so that it was athletically within himself, but expect to see the odd wobbly floater until he's more across the cadence of AFL football.

I'd play him though, 100%.

So he is exactly like the rest of our midfield.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

What is it about Binns game that has him not being selected, on stats alone I would have thought he would have had a run in the 1s, but must be something Voss doesn’t like?

Needs to play another 7-8 games and get 30-40 touches each game. He may then be possibly brought in as sub. But, is there two many similar types already in front of him?

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Binns looks like an Ollie Hollands clone. Fine to let him mature in the VFL but picking LOB in front of him this week was not one of Voss's finest moments.

It's a bit of a recurring theme with these slightly left field moves looking strange at the time ridiculous afterwards.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

So good to hear cunners, Martin and marchy playing well!!
Asap Martin and cunners are needed in the seniors along with binns!

 

[gbatman]

Another top game from Binns. Marchbank, Cuningham and Martin getting through is good news.

 

[Blue By Blood]

What is it about Binns game that has him not being selected, on stats alone I would have thought he would have had a run in the 1s, but must be something Voss doesn’t like?

Haven’t you heard.. our list is in such a good spot and we’re in cracking form.. it’s tough to get a gig in the senior team at the moment.

 

[Jimmae]

So he is exactly like the rest of our midfield.

Not exactly - though I assume this was a joke - he's more along the lines of Ollie Hollands, but shorter and with a tad less burst and depth in kicking.

I think he can take over from Cottrell and we can shape a bit differently in terms of defending any elite outside run as required.

 

[RudyBlue]

From the parts of the 1st, 3rd and 4th I saw, Binns and Cowan were our best listed players.

 

[RudyBlue]

Binns was involved in a number of 50-100m plays where would dispose and then get another in the chain while breaking through lines.

I dunno how this would translate to AFL level though, where everything seems systemically turgid.

 

[Coona Blues]

Binns was involved in a number of 50-100m plays where would dispose and then get another in the chain while breaking through lines.

I dunno how this would translate to AFL level though, where everything seems systemically turgid.

I have a couple of reservations around Binns. His disposal can be excellent or trash, I have wanted him to earn it while others have screamed for his inclusion. He was plenty combative today against an average opponent, it remains to be seen how he steps up, but I am now comfortable he has earned the right to a game.

 

[HarryFlashman]

IMO Binns started behind Hollands, I think he’s arguably in front of him now, he’s bloody quick and just keeps running to create.
Kicks it harder & is also a little stronger body wise.
Not knocking Ollie, Binns has just come on leaps & bounds.
Still just a kid so isn’t physically imposing but he’s a smart footballer- gets to dangerous/useful places by willing himself there.
If we decided to start opening up play he needs to come in.
Hope we don’t try the ol back/wing & make him a quasi defender, let’s push offense with him

 

[dylan_mike1]

IMO Binns started behind Hollands, I think he’s arguably in front of him now, he’s bloody quick and just keeps running to create.
Kicks it harder & is also a little stronger body wise.
Not knocking Ollie, Binns has just come on leaps & bounds.
Still just a kid so isn’t physically imposing but he’s a smart footballer- gets to dangerous/useful places by willing himself there.
If we decided to start opening up play he needs to come in.
Hope we don’t try the ol back/wing & make him a quasi defender, let’s push offense with him

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[HarryFlashman]

Get Ollie and Binns on the meat pies over summer and in the gym, and we might have our wings covered for next 10 years.[emoji108]

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Musashi still a sponsor?
Any chance we can send them to a farm over the summer?
I want them deceptively strong, wiry & hard AF

 

[Michael Jezz]

Martin or Cunningham could play sub. I don't think either are fit enough to defensively run out a full afl game, just yet

 

[windows1]

Binns will play for LOB next week. I’m certain.

 

[RedFury]

IMO Binns started behind Hollands, I think he’s arguably in front of him now, he’s bloody quick and just keeps running to create.
Kicks it harder & is also a little stronger body wise.
Not knocking Ollie, Binns has just come on leaps & bounds.
Still just a kid so isn’t physically imposing but he’s a smart footballer- gets to dangerous/useful places by willing himself there.
If we decided to start opening up play he needs to come in.
Hope we don’t try the ol back/wing & make him a quasi defender, let’s push offense with him

I get what you're saying but one has only played VFL to date and the other only AFL and the gap between those two levels is huge. Players can look much better playing VFL vs AFL - we saw this just a week ago with Fish who looked like a superstar running around getting almost 40 in the VFL, but often in the AFL he can't get near it. We need to see them both at the same level for a few weeks to really compare.

 

[Michael Jezz]

I thought Lemmey and Okeefe looked way off Afl physicality. If you are struggling to take a contested mark against a stand alone side, there is a way to go to make AFL

 

[HarryFlashman]

I get what you're saying but one has only played VFL to date and the other only AFL and the gap between those two levels is huge. Players can look much better playing VFL vs AFL - we saw this just a week ago with Fish who looked like a superstar running around getting almost 40 in the VFL, but often in the AFL he can't get near it. We need to see them both at the same level for a few weeks to really compare.

I don’t doubt the step up, I just think Binns is one of those players who will actually be better at the top level.
Hopefully we see shortly, it’s all a much needed positive

 

[teagueyubeauty]

What is it about Binns game that has him not being selected, on stats alone I would have thought he would have had a run in the 1s, but must be something Voss doesn’t like?

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[Coona Blues]

I thought Lemmey and Okeefe looked way off Afl physicality. If you are struggling to take a contested mark against a stand alone side, there is a way to go to make AFL

They are kids, particularly O’Keeffe who, as a December foal is remains 18 yo through the season. Has a long way to go, but an absolute pup in the elite game. Had very little ruck time behind Mirkov (and Pitt and TDK at times) slow burn, but will be genuine AFL quality in time.

Lemmey, I am not as certain about. Has the tools, but a little “flakey” at times. Could go either way. I remain convinced he will be better suited as a defender.

 

[DangerousD]

They are kids, particularly O’Keeffe who, as a December foal is remains 18 yo through the season. Has a long way to go, but an absolute pup in the elite game. Had very little ruck time behind Mirkov (and Pitt and TDK at times) slow burn, but will be genuine AFL quality in time.

Lemmey, I am not as certain about. Has the tools, but a little “flakey” at times. Could go either way. I remain convinced he will be better suited as a defender.

Our approach to our ruck stocks is weird, I've never seen Mirkov live or O'Keefe but you and many others all say the same thing. SO if either TDK or Pitt gets an injury, neither of our other two ruckman are in a position to step up, even if for just one game.