List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

 

[SaintJ]

He’s 23.
Sincs only came good around 25,26 years.
He's got the talent. We’ve seen it, and obviously the application as well as it was mentioned on here that he came back after pre-season in ripping nick.(pun intended.)

Just got to hope he’s past his injuries.
I’m not giving him up just yet.

Sincs definitely proves you cant lose hope to quickly.. I never saw it and look at him now. Wasn’t Lenny also a latish bloomer?? Memory failing me

 

[SaintsSeptember]

He’s 23.
Sincs only came good around 25,26 years.
He's got the talent. We’ve seen it, and obviously the application as well as it was mentioned on here that he came back after pre-season in ripping nick.(pun intended.)

Just got to hope he’s past his injuries.
I’m not giving him up just yet.

Sincs was pretty much always good, just not "as" good.
He started off as a rookie playing small forward.
Champion Data rated him elite as a winger, we all thought it was statistical garbage, but they were right.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Tip top stuff on this thread guys very enjoyable reading

Says no one ever

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I hope so. More confident that GC will trade for points over straight high picks but Bell is a nightmare to deal with. He makes Dodoro look reasonable and he knows that we are a bunch of amateurs who'll hand over 10 times more than he ever expected as long as he stares them down.

Crying

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I hope so. More confident that GC will trade for points over straight high picks but Bell is a nightmare to deal with. He makes Dodoro look reasonable and he knows that we are a bunch of amateurs who'll hand over 10 times more than he ever expected as long as he stares them down.

Here is StKilda dealing with the french. Fremantle.

 

[hayes]

Unironically if Gringo had been our list manager over the last 5 years we'd have done very well

I reckon even this guy could’ve done a better job:

 

[AirWinmar]

I'm losing hope now. Once you're over in that mid 20s range you have to jump players already in the side and clubs tend to prefer to put time into new kids.

I hope we give him another year and a good crack. We're not blessed with a plethora of players with elite attributes who have shown they can play football. I saw some bits of some vfl games and thought while rusty he has shown some nice plays, tucking the ball under the arm and had some runs out of defence. He has had very bad luck with injuries sidelining him for 2 years, but I guess there is a limit to the time on the sidelines you will get before your contract is renewed.

 

[gringo2011]

Sincs definitely proves you cant lose hope to quickly.. I never saw it and look at him now. Wasn’t Lenny also a latish bloomer?? Memory failing me

He was never broken down though. Like Acres Richo just had no idea about how to maximise him. He was awesome in his first couple of years and Richo found ways to make him less useful. It took a new coach running out of players to try him somewhere different to see what he could do. Richo was as creative as a potato.

Coff has all the skills to be a player it's injury that will make him a bust.

 

[AirWinmar]

He was never broken down though. Like Acres Richo just had no idea about how to maximise him. He was awesome in his first couple of years and Richo found ways to make him less useful. It took a new coach running out of players to try him somewhere different to see what he could do. Richo was as creative as a potato.

Coff has all the skills to be a player it's injury that will make him a bust.

We had too many players whose best position was hbf or wing back then too and Cho sentenced Acres and Sincs to the half forward role, which is very hard to play so he could play Newnes, Billings etc on wing. Billings in hindsight was going very well in the hf role but he had ptsd from missing so many goals so needed to move. It almost seemed like Cho would find a players best position and then decide to move them somewhere else because they played well there

 

[joydivision22]

Henry is a prime candidate to wither and die on the marvel wing as so many have done before him. He has no other strings to his bow except for wing at Optus which is the easiest place to play that position in the land. He’s worth a pick in the 20s but not for us. We need to avoid that one.

 

[jwint43]

Thankfully the last 2 years have been very good drafts - Owens, Windy, Nas & Poo. (Plus others)

Clark and Coffield have really set the re-build back. Pretty unlucky that both top 10 picks from the same draft haven't gone on, but it is what it is. Injuries certainly played a part.

Add another 2-3 talented kids this year and we are starting to build a talent pool that can drive us back up the ladder long-term.

I'm not giving up on Clark and Coff. Both still 23/24 and have their best footy ahead of them, and even if they don't turn out to be mega stars they could be awesome support to Windhager, Pou, Owens etc.

Is the Flanders interest pure speculation or is he definitely looking to leave? He has been playing basically full time mid since Dew got sacked.

 

[jwint43]

Clubs who got early access to significant players due to AFL bullshit this century. I probably missed some or got the years wrong.
Also a couple played it straight and were screwed by early bids, Bulldogs ( Ayce Cordy ),GC ( Bowes ).

GWS 27
2011: Free listing ( Cameron, Edwards, Shiel , Treloar, Bugg, Bruce, Hombsch, Wilson)
Free early draft picks ( Coniglio, Tyson, Hoskin-Elliot, Haynes, Greene, Adams , Tomlinson )
2012: Free early draft picks ( O'Rourke , Plowman , Corr )
2013: Early draft pick ( Boyd/Kelly ) 2014: Academy ( Steele) 2015: Academy ( Hopper , Kennedy , Himmelburg ).
2016: Academy ( Setterfield, Perryman, Cumming ) 2019: Academy ( Green )


Suns 10
2010:Free listing (Weller, Dixon, Matera, Zac Smith, McLKenzie ) Free early draft picks (Swallow, Day, Prestia, Lynch)
2019 : Priority ( Anderson/Rowell,


Collingwood 7
2002 F/S (Cam Cloke) 2003 F/S( Heath Shaw ) , 2004 F/S ( Travis Cloke). 2005 Priority( Thomas ) 2014 F/S( Moore)
2018 Academy ( Quaynor ) . 2021 F/S( Daicos )

Swans 2002: 5 F/S (Dempster) ,2011:F/S ( Mitchell) 2014:Academy ( Heeney). 2015: Academy (Mills), 2020 Academy( Gulden)

Carlton 5 2001: F/S (Waite ) 2003: Priority( Walker) 2005: Priority( Murphy) 2006: Priority( Hampson), 2007: Priority( Kreuzer)

Bulldogs 5 2003: Priority( Cooney) , 2004: Priority( Griffin) 2010: F/S( Wallis, Libratore). 2020: Academy ( Ugle-Hagan )

Hawks 3 2001riority( Hodge ). 2004: Priority ( Roughead ) 2005: Priority( Ellis)

Melbourne 3 2003: Priority ( Sylvia ) 2009riority( Scully/Treloar). 2012: F/S (Viney)

Eagles 3 2001: ( Judd). 2008: Priority ( Shuey). 2010: Priority ( Darling).

Lions 2015: Academy ( Keays) 2022 F/S ( Ashcroft , Fletcher ?)

Cats 2 2001 F/S ( Ablett) 2006 F/S ( Hawkins ).


Fremantle 2 2003: F/S (Brett Peake) 2019 Academy ( Henry).

Bombers 2 2002: F/S ( Watson) , 2012:F/S ( Daniher)

Tigers 2 2004: Priority ( Deledio ) 2007: Priority( Rance )

North 2 2013: F/S ( McDonald), 2016:Academy ( Thomas ),


Saints 2: 2000. Priority Pick ( Riewoldt/Kosi ) 2001: Priority ( Ball) Do i count Owens or Windy? Anyone could have got them.

Port 2002: 1 F/S ( Ebert )

Crows ??

The amount of talent that has gone through GWS is actually silly. They should have 1 flag at a minimum.

 

[Gavinmitchell11]

Saints will look to get Ash Johnson from Collingwood - good mail.

 

[puntking]

Saints will look to get Ash Johnson from Collingwood - good mail.

Why?

 

[ScrappyDo]

You had me until you said ‘versing’

Blocked, unfollowed, excommunicated & dobbed into border force for a internal cavity search.

Sort yourself out champ.

*also champed


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

SS was a steaming cow pat of a thing but it did keep the flies away pretty good.

 

[Klaatu]

Saints will look to get Ash Johnson from Collingwood - good mail.

Just signed a 2 year deal


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Henry is a prime candidate to wither and die on the marvel wing as so many have done before him. He has no other strings to his bow except for wing at Optus which is the easiest place to play that position in the land. He’s worth a pick in the 20s but not for us. We need to avoid that one.

Do you think re: Marvel that is because of size and shape of ground?

 

[Coconut_twirl]

Sincs definitely proves you cant lose hope to quickly.. I never saw it and look at him now. Wasn’t Lenny also a latish bloomer?? Memory failing me

Montagna was definitely a late bloomer. Goddard took a few years too. On our current list, Daniel McKenzie (unfortunately injuries have probably cut down his career) went from whipping boy to just about the first one picked.

By memory, Lenny showed some special trait’s pretty early on. But this was a long time ago!

 

[beside the seaside]

Henry is a prime candidate to wither and die on the marvel wing as so many have done before him. He has no other strings to his bow except for wing at Optus which is the easiest place to play that position in the land. He’s worth a pick in the 20s but not for us. We need to avoid that one.

Lyon knows a fair bit about the ground. I'd trust him to have a good idea when it comes to finding a role for players at Marvel.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I'm losing hope now. Once you're over in that mid 20s range you have to jump players already in the side and clubs tend to prefer to put time into new kids.

Hold the faith. He’s very well suited to the modern game. But all on him. Shame that the VFL is having its 28th bye of the year.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Montagna was definitely a late bloomer. Goddard took a few years too. On our current list, Daniel McKenzie (unfortunately injuries have probably cut down his career) went from whipping boy to just about the first one picked.

By memory, Lenny showed some special trait’s pretty early on. But this was a long time ago!

Yep, Lenny showed a lot of class early. But even a few years in, I’m not sure many saw what he would eventually progress to. That progression from HFF to Mid and absolute star was very quick.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Kmart gift card.

Second with a later pick back? Wonder if he garners interest elsewhere? Didn’t the (at the time) Geelong recruiter rate him at 1 in his draft year?

 

[botts]

Just signed a 2 year deal


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

Are you sure? Thought he was out of contract

 

[gringo2011]

Henry is a prime candidate to wither and die on the marvel wing as so many have done before him. He has no other strings to his bow except for wing at Optus which is the easiest place to play that position in the land. He’s worth a pick in the 20s but not for us. We need to avoid that one.

Langdon and Acres have both gone up a level since leaving Freo. Not sure if theory that holds water. If we get him for a pick in the 20s I'd be happy though.

 

[gringo2011]

Hold the faith. He’s very well suited to the modern game. But all on him. Shame that the VFL is having its 28th bye of the year.

Not in his ability. I think he's got some skills, just once you miss two years injured it becomes a long way back. He wasn't best 22 when he went down. Now he has to break into a side that will have guys like Hotton, Keeler, McLeenan and a bunch of new recruits all trying to break in to the best 22.

Has to push out Webster, Battle, Stocker types as well as getting back to demanding a spot while staying fit enough to play. If he was a racehorse the knackery would be calling if he breaks down next season.

To me if he gets back it's a bonus but shouldn't be planned around. He'll be in his 7th season next year and only just hitting 50 games. He's going to have to come back in exceptional condition and stay fit while playing like every game could be his last. Might be good motivation.