List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[Captain Paddy]

I can't put my finger on it, but Ross and Steele don't seem to mesh. It goes back to preseason and the leaked audio from the coach's box.

Ross has always had a super strong relationship with past captions, and it's just not there with Steele at all.

Is there anywhere we can hear the tapes

 

[OxSaint]

We should look to Cogs at GWS for an example. Was their best player almost exactly like Steele got the captaincy but struggled. His game dropped off too and the leadership was nothing special. Cogs even got dropped I remember how depressed he looked in the AFL doco. Lost the captaincy and now he's a gun again. Team is flying.

Good point. Although cogs has greater leg speed and superior ball use to Steele.

 

[Saints4ever]

I got laughed out the door in May for suggesting Steele should be shopped around.

To me he doesn’t exude leadership material. Maybe those who have gone before him have set my expectations high, but he doesn’t do it for me. I do accept he has been great during a period where we didn’t have many leaders around, but I think it’s different now.

For mine, if he netted us 2 quality picks, you take it.

What happens when you turn those picks into Jack Watts and Jack Trengove.

 

[Sir Owens]

Is there anywhere we can hear the tapes

Not sure. There were never any reports about anything bad so it couldn't have been much.

Ross had a few subtle digs at Steele and pressers as well. One time, he wanted to make it clear that Steele was not injured, even though he looked banged up and was coming back from injury. It just seemed odd.

 

[Captain Paddy]

Not sure. There were never any reports about anything bad so it couldn't have been much.

Ross had a few subtle digs at Steele and pressers as well. One time, he wanted to make it clear that Steele was not injured, even though he looked banged up and was coming back from injury. It just seemed odd.

Also gave praise when he deserved it. Might be that Ross doesn't think Steele can take the good with the bad?

 

[Sir Owens]

I got laughed out the door in May for suggesting Steele should be shopped around.

To me he doesn’t exude leadership material. Maybe those who have gone before him have set my expectations high, but he doesn’t do it for me. I do accept he has been great during a period where we didn’t have many leaders around, but I think it’s different now.

For mine, if he netted us 2 quality picks, you take it.

I don't think we should trade him. But I do remember when we held onto Jack Steven when he wanted out at the peak of his powers. We could have named our price. A few years later, he left for next to nothing and we were never a finals team. Thanks Cho!

Port never have a problem of trading high, something we could learn from. We never seem to trade any of our players for first-round picks.

 

[saintbill]

The melts on here are going to he all time if Steele gets traded.

 

[Saints4ever]

Instead of relying on trade I think we need to focus on development.

 

[Joffaboy]

I got laughed out the door in May for suggesting Steele should be shopped around.

With good reason, and you will get laughed out again.

It is stupifyingly dumb.

 

[Premium]

Steele may not be happy with Lyon but moving on Steele would certainly kill any loyalty in the clubs players.
I have to mention Blight when he first went to the Crows he straight away made the bold call to sack Tony McGuinness, Chris McDermott and Andrew Jarman.
It would be a bit like sacking Steele , Membery and Ross.

 

[Teflon]

Only reason you trade Steele is to bring in Reid
Wont happen
I’d do it
Wont happen

 

[LongParker]

Steele may not be happy with Lyon but moving on Steele would certainly kill any loyalty in the clubs players.
I have to mention Blight when he first went to the Crows he straight away made the bold call to sack Tony McGuinness, Chris McDermott and Andrew Jarman.
It would be a bit like sacking Steele , Membery and Ross.

And with those sackings came back to back flags!

 

[snails13]

I got laughed out the door in May for suggesting Steele should be shopped around.

To me he doesn’t exude leadership material. Maybe those who have gone before him have set my expectations high, but he doesn’t do it for me. I do accept he has been great during a period where we didn’t have many leaders around, but I think it’s different now.

For mine, if he netted us 2 quality picks, you take it.

You want to trade him because you think he is not captain material

 

[stfan]

I can't put my finger on it, but Ross and Steele don't seem to mesh. It goes back to preseason and the leaked audio from the coach's box.

Ross has always had a super strong relationship with past captions, and it's just not there with Steele at all.

To be fair Ross has still be rolling out good new captions this year.

 

[StCicatriz]

Rumour has it Saints and Gresham's manager are at loggerheads over possible clauses in his contract.

The "helicopter floater" clause would see him lose a percentage of his wage if triggered, it's rumoured the amount of helicopters kicked to trigger this clause is concerning to Gresh.

Hahaha this is brilliant

 

[StCicatriz]

I'm willing to bet we'll see a record movement of 1st round picks this year and all that will be turned on it's head.

As with a couple of years back, or maybe last year, we lack the capital to get amongst the real action, but there will be some scraps about and WC have shown they'll trade down preferring local talent with 1stRDP.
From the current ratings:

1. Norff- Reid
2. WC - Curtain
3. Suns- Walter
4. GWS - Mckercher
5. Hawthorn- Duursma
6. Bulldogs - Next Best
7. Melbourne - Anothakent
8. WC - Next WA Kent
*
*
*
14. WC - Someother WAkent (NGA -Sri Lanka)
*
*
18. WC - Yetanother WAkent
(NGA -Sri Lanka. Unrelated)

This made me lol is Kent the new Jack

 

[Joffaboy]

To be fair Ross has still be rolling out good new captions this year.

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[HunterClarksHeadband]

Trying not to be me ( Negative ) But you're telling me a list manager is just going to start blabbing on about players to some random , I find that somewhat hard to believe .

HunterClarksHeadband said Steele is on the trade table according to Jason McCartney

It was then reported on by SEN

Geez, last time I feel like getting amongst the goss train haha.
Once again - not claiming anything as gospel but it was a simple light hearted convo that I struck up when leaving the lounge about the Giants and their chances of making finals, jokingly said I'm very appreciative of them letting Steele go for our gain and thats when he said "mate, all I've been hearing this week is that you're trying to get rid of him!"

 

[MrFoster]

Jack steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

has been a very very good player for us, he is tough and tenacious. But he is just not a true ball hunter or a natural leader. The number of times we see opposition mids walk the ball out of middle is really unacceptable, if we can only break even in the middle, we would be a much more dangerous side. So that to me says that Crouch, Steele and Ross does not work too well together. Crouch to me has been a more impactful mid this year, even when Steele wasn’t injured at the start of the season. It can be just that Steele is not happy, or feeling not appreciated, but after having Riewoldt and Fyfe as captains, I can see why Lyon may be asking a lot from Steele.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Good point. Although cogs has greater leg speed and superior ball use to Steele.

I meant more the strain of captaincy and the effect on the team when the captain isn’t happy

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

Perspective is gold
We have gold
Add more gold
Trust in RTB
And all the other awesome educators
Pretty good do season all things considered

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

Tim Membrey

28

Tim Membrey

Age

31

Ht

188cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.1

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

Norm Smith medalist 2024.... 5 goals 22 possies 3 intersect marks to 5 awesome bloke actions

 

[_Maximus_12]

Short memories you lot who are shitcanning steele. When his body is he right, he’s elite. Has been unlucky with some trauma based injuries but he’ll bounce back.

 

[jwikked]

Short memories you lot who are shitcanning steele. When his body is he right, he’s elite. Has been unlucky with some trauma based injuries but he’ll bounce back.

who is canning him? All I’ve seen is he’s not a good captain and would be worth something at the trade table

 

[beside the seaside]

It's worth watching Steeleys interview after the game, up on the Saints website. Clearly shattered by the loss and wants to drive the group forward.

There's no way he is going anywhere.