gutsroy
Brownlow Medallist
It seemed like a good idea at the time.
It was the night of the 2023 AFL Grand Final. The atmosphere was heady down at AFL HQ. The beers were flowing freely (the beers of the nose persuasion as well, just quietly) as the AFL patted itself on the back after giving the footy world what it had so desperately craved:
Collingwood, the most beloved and respected club in the land, home to some of the nicest and best behaved fans you ever will see, sneaking home in a thriller over the Brisvegas Bears without the so much as the slightest hint of umpiring controversy. Love was in the air...
Carn Bobby
Rompingwins was working the turntables and pumping out the sick beats while simultaneously chatting up an intern and updating his Wikipedia entry to reflect that he had cured cancer and won the Paris-Dakar Rally back-to-back at the tender age of seven. What a lad, and absolutely zero airs and graces about him despite being the inventor of the windproof g-string to boot.
It was then that Gil took centre stage and gestured to his brother to kill the choons for a sec. Because he, Gillon Percival Throckmorton McLachlan III, had something to say. Something that would change footy forever. Gil wasn't leaving after all.
Then, Andrew Dillon rushed up on stage and showed Gil an envelope full of pictures of Gil in a coke-fuelled awesome foursome with Rompity Romp Romp Romp, Joanne Capper and perennial fave Kim Duthie.
(No, not Chompers, Rompers - big Hamedog Millionaire, Gil's bro – keep up, you clowns)
Gil hastily decided that this round would be his swansong after all and that Dillo was the best successor he could possibly think of. But if he was going to go out, he was going to go out with a BANG. He was going to leave his mark on the game.
And so Gil took a deep breath, gathered his courage and unveiled his plan to deliver the footy world its most dazzling triumph since the unforgettable, the irreproducible, the unsurpassable AFLX. 2024 was to prove to be a year Supercoaches one and all would never forget…
Gone but never forgotten
The Changes:
In case you’ve had your Rip Van Winkle on, gone full cricket numpty or just had other, more interesting s**t to do, 2024 has quite a few interesting wrinkles in store to keep you on your toes.
‘Round 0 / Opening Round’:
Having a single opening round in Round 1 is soooo 2023, gaiz. This year, eight teams - Brisbane, Carlton, GWS, Gold Coast, Collingwood, Sydney, Melbourne and Richmond -will play off in ‘Opening Round’ or ‘Round 0’, fighting for the glory of holding aloft the Mission Pies Quidditch Cup or ******* something stupid like that.
In Rd 1, all teams play a normal round, before those Rd 0 squads take turns to have a totally necessary breather over Rds 2-6.
After that, things go back to normal over Rds 7-11 before the ‘normal’ byes start up. So what does this end up looking like?
If you didn’t have epilepsy before, you do now. Sorry. I think this is how it works, but if wrong, it will doubtless be corrected.
What does it mean for SuperCoach?
Rd 0 is a non-scoring round for teams. The season proper starts in Rd 1 with the usual rolling lockout to lock in your starting sides.
BUT: Players who play in Rd 0 will have their scores count toward their 3-week rolling average.
Players from GCS, GWS, Collingwood, Sydney, Melbourne and Richmond potentially see their first price changes at the end of Rd 2.
BUT: GCS and GWS then go straight onto the bye in Rd 3, and Bris / Carl players can’t see a price change before Rd 3 (Rd 2 bye).
Further down the track, Bris, GWS and Syd all have their ‘normal’ bye in Rd 12 (together with the Kangas’ first and only bye).
So what are you trying to tell us? Do you speak English?
That makes Brisbane, GCS and Sydney players pretty hard to justify starting, unless you really like their price / prospects to outperform their starting price - they are guaranteed not to be in your best 18 two of the first twelve weeks. Upgrade targets for the most part.
For the other early bye sides, it is a little trickier. Collingwood and Richmond don’t have their normal bye until Rd 15, so you might be more comfortable starting them (as you’ll be fully upgraded by then and maybe likelier to be able to cover them better). If Nick Daicos carries on as he did last year, for example, you probably don’t want to wait until Rd 16 to bring him into your squad.
So you’re telling us to start Daicos? Gotcha. Finally a simple instruction.
Yeah, nah, dunno. Daicos might cop a tag early in the year vs Hawthorn and he is guaranteed to miss Rd 5. So you might decide to fade him*, hope he sheds coin early while a midpriced starter gets off to a flyer and then bring Daicos in as quickly as you can after that first bye, using your cash as effectively as you can. (I think some have floated hoping Gus Brayshaw gets off to a flyer and trading him out at his first bye for Daicos, something like that.)
The starting Magic Number is also at its highest ever mark (nigh on 5.6k/pt) and that might help in terms of increasing the effect of a slow start in $ lost early doors (if last year is any indication, that will also mean that the in-season MN won’t drop as low as other years, might be much of a muchness).
* Big shoutout to WaynesWorld19 at this point
For the love of God and all things holy, can you just keep it simple for us?
Kids today. Always wanting to be spoon-fed. When I was a boy, we walked 17 miles to school barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways, with little more than a handed down flour sack on our backs and an onion belt, which was the style at the time.
If you have the choice between starting a ‘Rd 0’ premo / midpricer and a bloke who starts in Rd 1, all else being equal, go the other bloke.
Anything else?
Can I interest you in a free contour pillow? Perhaps the Kings’ Kinfe Collection? No? Oh well. Maybe next time.
Fremantle and Port only have one bye, in Rd 13, a bye which they share only with each other. That definitely makes them more attractive. North Melbourne only have the bye in Rd 12, so they’re pretty useful, too
Example: If you’re looking at Andrew Brayshaw vs Tom Green in your starting squad, Sprayshaw has no bye rounds Rds 1 – 12, whereas Green has two. Unless you think Green is going to slaughter Brayshaw on average, why would you go Green as a starter? Has post-bye upgrade target written all over him.
So should we be panicking?
Nah, all good. You're all in the same boat, Rd 0 is not all bad. (Pretty ******* close, but harness the positive and push out the negative.)
Use Rd 0 to give yourself a sighter on premos / midpricers / rookies from those teams, let it guide you in which of them you want to start the year with and which you hold off / pass on. More info never hurt anyone. Like Sam Flanders GCS - if he gets centre rotations, almost must-start as a FWD, tbh.
Well this was the biggest let down since Game of Thrones’ finale – we want our money back
No refunds, campaigners, says so in the T&Cs. Learn to ******* read.
OK, gaiz, don’t hate on me, I just work here. Flick through the numerous threads, sound out experienced coaches who know the score and don’t be afraid to throw up questions / ideas / opinions of your own. They’re a good bunch of lads and lasses, just don’t mention Tim Michell, lolity lol lol lol.
Exchanging hearts and minds makes life all the richer. I love youse all. Except Jeremy Cameron. campaigner. Thanks, Kirky. Have a good season.
Jiska WaynesWorld19 feel free to move. Will leave the rest to Loose at HB, has me covered anyway. Felt a lack of pizzazz to date.
It was the night of the 2023 AFL Grand Final. The atmosphere was heady down at AFL HQ. The beers were flowing freely (the beers of the nose persuasion as well, just quietly) as the AFL patted itself on the back after giving the footy world what it had so desperately craved:
Collingwood, the most beloved and respected club in the land, home to some of the nicest and best behaved fans you ever will see, sneaking home in a thriller over the Brisvegas Bears without the so much as the slightest hint of umpiring controversy. Love was in the air...
Carn Bobby
Rompingwins was working the turntables and pumping out the sick beats while simultaneously chatting up an intern and updating his Wikipedia entry to reflect that he had cured cancer and won the Paris-Dakar Rally back-to-back at the tender age of seven. What a lad, and absolutely zero airs and graces about him despite being the inventor of the windproof g-string to boot.
It was then that Gil took centre stage and gestured to his brother to kill the choons for a sec. Because he, Gillon Percival Throckmorton McLachlan III, had something to say. Something that would change footy forever. Gil wasn't leaving after all.
Then, Andrew Dillon rushed up on stage and showed Gil an envelope full of pictures of Gil in a coke-fuelled awesome foursome with Rompity Romp Romp Romp, Joanne Capper and perennial fave Kim Duthie.
(No, not Chompers, Rompers - big Hamedog Millionaire, Gil's bro – keep up, you clowns)
Gil hastily decided that this round would be his swansong after all and that Dillo was the best successor he could possibly think of. But if he was going to go out, he was going to go out with a BANG. He was going to leave his mark on the game.
And so Gil took a deep breath, gathered his courage and unveiled his plan to deliver the footy world its most dazzling triumph since the unforgettable, the irreproducible, the unsurpassable AFLX. 2024 was to prove to be a year Supercoaches one and all would never forget…
Gone but never forgotten
The Changes:
In case you’ve had your Rip Van Winkle on, gone full cricket numpty or just had other, more interesting s**t to do, 2024 has quite a few interesting wrinkles in store to keep you on your toes.
‘Round 0 / Opening Round’:
Having a single opening round in Round 1 is soooo 2023, gaiz. This year, eight teams - Brisbane, Carlton, GWS, Gold Coast, Collingwood, Sydney, Melbourne and Richmond -will play off in ‘Opening Round’ or ‘Round 0’, fighting for the glory of holding aloft the Mission Pies Quidditch Cup or ******* something stupid like that.
In Rd 1, all teams play a normal round, before those Rd 0 squads take turns to have a totally necessary breather over Rds 2-6.
After that, things go back to normal over Rds 7-11 before the ‘normal’ byes start up. So what does this end up looking like?
If you didn’t have epilepsy before, you do now. Sorry. I think this is how it works, but if wrong, it will doubtless be corrected.
What does it mean for SuperCoach?
Rd 0 is a non-scoring round for teams. The season proper starts in Rd 1 with the usual rolling lockout to lock in your starting sides.
BUT: Players who play in Rd 0 will have their scores count toward their 3-week rolling average.
Players from GCS, GWS, Collingwood, Sydney, Melbourne and Richmond potentially see their first price changes at the end of Rd 2.
BUT: GCS and GWS then go straight onto the bye in Rd 3, and Bris / Carl players can’t see a price change before Rd 3 (Rd 2 bye).
Further down the track, Bris, GWS and Syd all have their ‘normal’ bye in Rd 12 (together with the Kangas’ first and only bye).
So what are you trying to tell us? Do you speak English?
That makes Brisbane, GCS and Sydney players pretty hard to justify starting, unless you really like their price / prospects to outperform their starting price - they are guaranteed not to be in your best 18 two of the first twelve weeks. Upgrade targets for the most part.
For the other early bye sides, it is a little trickier. Collingwood and Richmond don’t have their normal bye until Rd 15, so you might be more comfortable starting them (as you’ll be fully upgraded by then and maybe likelier to be able to cover them better). If Nick Daicos carries on as he did last year, for example, you probably don’t want to wait until Rd 16 to bring him into your squad.
So you’re telling us to start Daicos? Gotcha. Finally a simple instruction.
Yeah, nah, dunno. Daicos might cop a tag early in the year vs Hawthorn and he is guaranteed to miss Rd 5. So you might decide to fade him*, hope he sheds coin early while a midpriced starter gets off to a flyer and then bring Daicos in as quickly as you can after that first bye, using your cash as effectively as you can. (I think some have floated hoping Gus Brayshaw gets off to a flyer and trading him out at his first bye for Daicos, something like that.)
The starting Magic Number is also at its highest ever mark (nigh on 5.6k/pt) and that might help in terms of increasing the effect of a slow start in $ lost early doors (if last year is any indication, that will also mean that the in-season MN won’t drop as low as other years, might be much of a muchness).
* Big shoutout to WaynesWorld19 at this point
For the love of God and all things holy, can you just keep it simple for us?
Kids today. Always wanting to be spoon-fed. When I was a boy, we walked 17 miles to school barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways, with little more than a handed down flour sack on our backs and an onion belt, which was the style at the time.
If you have the choice between starting a ‘Rd 0’ premo / midpricer and a bloke who starts in Rd 1, all else being equal, go the other bloke.
Anything else?
Can I interest you in a free contour pillow? Perhaps the Kings’ Kinfe Collection? No? Oh well. Maybe next time.
Fremantle and Port only have one bye, in Rd 13, a bye which they share only with each other. That definitely makes them more attractive. North Melbourne only have the bye in Rd 12, so they’re pretty useful, too
Example: If you’re looking at Andrew Brayshaw vs Tom Green in your starting squad, Sprayshaw has no bye rounds Rds 1 – 12, whereas Green has two. Unless you think Green is going to slaughter Brayshaw on average, why would you go Green as a starter? Has post-bye upgrade target written all over him.
So should we be panicking?
Nah, all good. You're all in the same boat, Rd 0 is not all bad. (Pretty ******* close, but harness the positive and push out the negative.)
Use Rd 0 to give yourself a sighter on premos / midpricers / rookies from those teams, let it guide you in which of them you want to start the year with and which you hold off / pass on. More info never hurt anyone. Like Sam Flanders GCS - if he gets centre rotations, almost must-start as a FWD, tbh.
Well this was the biggest let down since Game of Thrones’ finale – we want our money back
No refunds, campaigners, says so in the T&Cs. Learn to ******* read.
OK, gaiz, don’t hate on me, I just work here. Flick through the numerous threads, sound out experienced coaches who know the score and don’t be afraid to throw up questions / ideas / opinions of your own. They’re a good bunch of lads and lasses, just don’t mention Tim Michell, lolity lol lol lol.
Exchanging hearts and minds makes life all the richer. I love youse all. Except Jeremy Cameron. campaigner. Thanks, Kirky. Have a good season.
Jiska WaynesWorld19 feel free to move. Will leave the rest to Loose at HB, has me covered anyway. Felt a lack of pizzazz to date.
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