Resource 2025 AFL Draft prospects and discussion.

[dylan123]

I'm old enough to remember people believing Gibbs would do that to fall to us back in the day.

Doesn't happen in the real world.

Wait, so you're telling me Welsh wasn't tanking it in his draft season so we could get him dirt cheap?

 

[MarcusP2]

Good

Makes it tough for Port to get Cochrane.

Forget Cochrane and his possible eligibility, Zemes Pilot in 2027 looks like the best player in the country and they would've been counting on that.

 

[jo172]

Just noting the compensation picks Tasmania will get come 2027 this might be a stroke of genius by the AFL. Top picks might be going slightly cheaper than they otherwise would, and a good way to try and get better/more ready players to an expansion club without disrupting the natural order too much.

 

[daniel_4tw]

The problem was always the points were bullshit.

The idea was you use your other picks to get a player if you don’t happen to have the right pick for them. What it actually meant is clubs with the pick around the mark would aggressively trade out so they intentionally ‘didn’t have the pick’ and then could use a bunch of junk picks to get a top 5 player.

If they made third round picks effectively worthless and so you’d need a pick in the same round + then we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.

 

[Crow till I die]

The problem was always the points were bullshit.

The idea was you use your other picks to get a player if you don’t happen to have the right pick for them. What it actually meant is clubs with the pick around the mark would aggressively trade out so they intentionally ‘didn’t have the pick’ and then could use a bunch of junk picks to get a top 5 player.

If they made third round picks effectively worthless and so you’d need a pick in the same round + then we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.

Instead of draft picks, why not just have draft points that are based on where you finish. You could use the points allocated to the picks now for simplicity and those points then naturally fall to the clubs in lieu of picks. So instead of having a 1sR, 2ndR, 3rdR, 4thR etc, you just get a total points allocation based on where you have finished on the ladder. Then just have a bid system for every player and teams will quickly exhaust their points as they are successful in garnering players when they outbid other sides. Then once all of a clubs points are gone, they go to the back of the queue and have to wait to pick players to fill out their list once the other sides have exhausted their points. If a club has filled its list and has spare points, they can nominate that they will bank them for the following year.

Something like this then opens up the draft.

 

[noobermensch]

Sturt ran out comfortable Grand Final winners in a game they controlled from beginning to end. Jett Dahlitz was statistically dominant, finding an incredible amount of uncontested footy with West Adelaide seemingly content to fold back into a deep zone and allow Sturt to control the ball with their kick mark game. Dahlitz wasn't called upon to do a great deal of defending but was not found wanting on the few occasions he needed to commit. His kicking was the feature of his game, not always finding clean targets given how congested the Bloods made Sturt's front half, but his ability to take space with penetrating 50+ meter punchy kicks was critical in helping Sturt consistently break through for scores.

 

[Scorpus]

The problem was always the points were bullshit.

The idea was you use your other picks to get a player if you don’t happen to have the right pick for them. What it actually meant is clubs with the pick around the mark would aggressively trade out so they intentionally ‘didn’t have the pick’ and then could use a bunch of junk picks to get a top 5 player.

If they made third round picks effectively worthless and so you’d need a pick in the same round + then we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.

The system should always have been designed to force clubs to trade UP so they have higher picks closer to the real value of the top players. The points system was I guess an attempt at going "well pick 20 isn't close to the value of pick 5 so you better trade up to get enough points to match a bid at pick 5"

That was the problem with the old 'match in the same round/with your next pick' system when Sydney got a top 3 Heeney with pick 18 or whatever.

Instead the AFL then bizarrely allowed clubs to match bids using tons of crap late picks, trading DOWN instead of up, the complete opposite of how the system should have worked

By forcing clubs to match using a maximum of two picks, removing the discount and reducing the value of later picks, now finally clubs will have to trade UP like they always should have been from the start.

 

[jo172]

Instead of draft picks, why not just have draft points that are based on where you finish. You could use the points allocated to the picks now for simplicity and those points then naturally fall to the clubs in lieu of picks. So instead of having a 1sR, 2ndR, 3rdR, 4thR etc, you just get a total points allocation based on where you have finished on the ladder. Then just have a bid system for every player and teams will quickly exhaust their points as they are successful in garnering players when they outbid other sides. Then once all of a clubs points are gone, they go to the back of the queue and have to wait to pick players to fill out their list once the other sides have exhausted their points. If a club has filled its list and has spare points, they can nominate that they will bank them for the following year.

Something like this then opens up the draft.

This is a very fun and out of the box idea.

Be very interested to war game it with a historic draft as to what it would look like.

 

[skam85]

Isnt that bad luck for them couldnt happen to a better bunch of pricks

Until it happens to us and then you'll be one of the first to bleat how unfair and bias the AFL is

 

[Amacca 23]

Until it happens to us and then you'll be one of the first to bleat how unfair and bias the AFL is

Nah im not you , its called karma after they screwed us with bryce gibbs , if it happens to us later on so be it .I cant wait till nick rewoldt son is of age and then watch them want the rules changed

 

[skam85]

Nah im not you , its called karma after they screwed us with bryce gibbs , if it happens to us later on so be it .I cant wait till nick rewoldt son is of age and then watch them want the rules changed

first of all, congratulations on your first comma

 

[Apsaalooke]

Nah im not you , its called karma after they screwed us with bryce gibbs , if it happens to us later on so be it .I cant wait till nick rewoldt son is of age and then watch them want the rules changed

Then we double screwed ourselves by using Gibbs’s lost 3rd round F/S pick to draft D Mackay

 

[WAG]

first of all, congratulations on your first comma

Secondly, he did an excellent job of using capital letters to start his sentences.

 

[Amacca 23]

Secondly, he did an excellent job of using capital letters to start his sentences.

Oh look its the 3 clowns

 

[LoBu]

That's a sensible change. Pay market price and the player is yours.

Much better than pick 1 for 10 picks in the 5th round.

Only put in place once Fremantle, Adelaide, Port start to benefit

 

[Fud#3]

Only put in place once Fremantle, Adelaide, Port start to benefit

EFA

 

[morris086]

Cals phantom form guide for September:

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his third Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

Sharp at 9 and Cumming at 15 would make things interesting if we hold onto our first, possibly move up for Sharp.

 

[daniel_4tw]

Cals phantom form guide for September:

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his third Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

Sharp at 9 and Cumming at 15 would make things interesting if we hold onto our first, possibly move up for Sharp.

Problem is that 9 is actually 6 live pick after academy picks.

That being said, it would be great to get an early kick as there is a lot of SA talent that may slip.

If we can get Sharp, him and Draper could be our Oliver/Petracca set up for the next 10 years. Hope the club is trying.

 

[Velvet George]

Is there any point drafting a midfielder? Look what we’ve done to the ones we have

 

[TheLeftFist8]

I wouldn't waste any extra capital moving up for Sharp if we can still get Cumming who could well end up the better of the two anyway.

 

[Scorpus]

There could be four Academy/FS picks before us and also a couple of free agent compos

So our pick 14 will be more like 20

 

[WaynesWorld19]

There could be four Academy/FS picks before us and also a couple of free agent compos

So our pick 14 will be more like 20

Meh ! .....do you think we'll honestly still have #14 come Draft night

 

[Scorpus]

Meh ! .....do you think we'll honestly still have #14 come Draft night

If we trade in Petracca, no, but I don't think that will happen

If we trade in Oliver and Ah Chee we should still have it. Outside of that it would be shuffling around our pick position

I expect us to still have a first round pick based on the rumors of potential trades so far

 

[Betts are off]

Cals phantom form guide for September:

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his third Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

Sharp at 9 and Cumming at 15 would make things interesting if we hold onto our first, possibly move up for Sharp.

If we hold our first pick, there's also the 2 SA KPF's that range (Schubert and Marsh), which would be good given our void in young KPF talent on the list.

Walker has between 0-1 years left on those legs, and Burgess is pretty much consensus SANFL level. Welsh looks closer to SAAFL level then AFL level right now (fingers crossed he takes a BIG step forward soon). But after that we are down to Toby Murray who has awesome traits, but still very raw, TBH I'd be more interested in trialling him at CHB next year then CHF.

For me getting a high ceiling KPF in the draft to develop for 12 or so months is a sneaky high priority. We know the big boys take time, and both the above look like they need to hit a weights room and ultra protein diet for a couple years before they really get up to speed.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Welsh looks closer to SAAFL level then AFL level right now (fingers crossed he takes a BIG step forward soon). But after that we are down to Toby Murray who has awesome traits, but still very raw, TBH I'd be more interested in trialling him at CHB next year then CHF.

You should never judge Draftee's are year 1 .....both, if they have good or average years