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I would like to see the latest victim of the curse of no 36 out of it & burn it for eternity
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I would like to see the latest victim of the curse of no 36 out of it & burn it for eternity
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Guernsey numbers at this stage are still undecided. The new players are using the vacant lockers at present but haven't been given their own one yet based on their number.
The locker room version of hot desking?Guernsey numbers at this stage are still undecided. The new players are using the vacant lockers at present but haven't been given their own one yet based on their number.
The curse no longer exists - Dylan Moore got the hearse for it. Blanck is just generally unlucky.
No, the curse still exists.
threesixpio bravely bore the burden for a while but it became too much and dropped the ball and as a result Moore got glandular fever and Blanck did his ACL.
I agree with Newmo89, we have to dispense with that number for good.
Haha more than this its a ****ing number, a piece of cloth on a jumper! To say it has some bearing on how a players body holds up is hilarious.I can't believe this continual rubbish about number 36 being cursed which is raised perpetually by so called rational people (you barrack for Hawthorn, so I am assuming you, my fellow posters are rational).
Why don't we say number 2 is jinxed, after all Lewis has had his injuries and never plays a full season, Roughy did his Achilles tendon, and Dutchy did his shoulders. I am sure other players with this number also suffered long term injuries.
What about number 24, maybe DBG didn't realise his potential due to his number, and Croady had a career ending injury wearing this blasted number, and let's not forget our legend Knightsy; maybe he might have recieved multiple Brownlows if he had played in a different number.
Clearly, I am being a touch frivolous, but I would be reasonable sure that all numbers will have some bad history along the line, but we remember better the success stories of the lower ones rather than the rare wins at the back end.
Best I think, to scrap the numbers all together and start again and run around with letters on our backs. Maybe letter "A" can be allocated to the supporters to start off this new trend (yes i know I am opening another can of worms!).
I can't believe this continual rubbish about number 36 being cursed which is raised perpetually by so called rational people (you barrack for Hawthorn, so I am assuming you, my fellow posters are rational).
Why don't we say number 2 is jinxed, after all Lewis has had his injuries and never plays a full season, Roughy did his Achilles tendon, and Dutchy did his shoulders. I am sure other players with this number also suffered long term injuries.
What about number 24, maybe DBG didn't realise his potential due to his number, and Croady had a career ending injury wearing this blasted number, and let's not forget our legend Knightsy; maybe he might have received multiple Brownlows if he had played in a different number.
Clearly, I am being a touch frivolous, but I would be reasonable sure that all numbers will have some bad history along the line, but we remember better the success stories of the lower ones rather than the rare wins at the back end.
Best I think, to scrap the numbers all together and start again and run around with letters on our backs. Maybe letter "A" can be allocated to the supporters to start off this new trend (yes i know I am opening another can of worms!).
No, the curse still exists.
threesixpio bravely bore the burden for a while but it became too much and dropped the ball and as a result Moore got glandular fever and Blanck did his ACL.
I agree with Newmo89, we have to dispense with that number for good.
He escaped the curse through sheer will, but break it, he did not.Dylan Moore wore the guernsey in his career-defining game where he went from delisted to Brownlow votes. He's now an All Australian. The curse is broken and to deny it is insulting to Moore's talismanic properties.
Name me a great, no , just a good player to wear number 36 for most of his career…………..I can't believe this continual rubbish about number 36 being cursed which is raised perpetually by so called rational people (you barrack for Hawthorn, so I am assuming you, my fellow posters are rational).
Why don't we say number 2 is jinxed, after all Lewis has had his injuries and never plays a full season, Roughy did his Achilles tendon, and Dutchy did his shoulders. I am sure other players with this number also suffered long term injuries.
What about number 24, maybe DBG didn't realise his potential due to his number, and Croady had a career ending injury wearing this blasted number, and let's not forget our legend Knightsy; maybe he might have received multiple Brownlows if he had played in a different number.
Clearly, I am being a touch frivolous, but I would be reasonable sure that all numbers will have some bad history along the line, but we remember better the success stories of the lower ones rather than the rare wins at the back end.
Best I think, to scrap the numbers all together and start again and run around with letters on our backs. Maybe letter "A" can be allocated to the supporters to start off this new trend (yes i know I am opening another can of worms!).
The tale of 36 would turn Hitchens himself into a Deist.Haha more than this its a ****ing number, a piece of cloth on a jumper! To say it has some bearing on how a players body holds up is hilarious.
Sorry but I think superstition is so stupid.
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That's the nature of the beast for higher numbers. A good player like Dylan Moore will move to a lower jumper number, others will stay on the list for 1 or 2 years before moving or being moved on.Name me a great, no, just a good player to wear number 36 for most of his career…………..
Austin McCrabb says hi!That's the nature of the beast for higher numbers. A good player like Dylan Moore will move to a lower jumper number, others will stay on the list for 1 or 2 years before moving or being moved on.
I acknowledge other numbers in the 30's and of course, there is also number 44, that have had players who have owned their higher numbers (Cyril 33, John Kennedy 34, James Morrisey 35, Angelo Lekkas/Brendan Whitecross 37, Robert Campbell 39, John Platten 44) but this is not consistent through the last 50 years for these numbers. 38 for instance also doesn't have any players of note unless you count the great Billy Nicholls who became infamous through other means,
36, apart from Dylan, has had some other players who have worn the number and have had reasonably successful careers, most of whom moved on to other clubs. Max Bailey of course, a Hawthorn premiership player wore it. Others included Gary Ablett for 1 year, Brad Scott before moving the Brisbane and let's not forget Josh Kennedy. Did back luck cause these 3 to move on? I don't think so.
Tim Boyle and Alex Woodward who are also frequently brought up as proof the number is cursed finished their careers at Hawthorn in other numbers. Tim had 4 more years before finishing and Alex 3 before moving on and playing with Collingwood's VFL side.
So good players have worn the number (there have been 35 over the last 50 years) and it just how it pans out with the number allocations given to new players. Are we going to say if Cyril was given a number 3 digits higher his career would have been over in 2 to 3 years. I don't think so.
Thanks for the opportunity to review and reminisce (and thanks also to the spreadsheet of jumper numbers available on the Hawthorn website in the history section).
PS I remember most of the players from the 80's onwards, especially through the 90's and to the present date who wore 36. Some stood out and played a few games, most only stayed a year or two in the reserves or at Box Hill.
PPS I don't walk under ladders!!!!
I think you've made the case for the curse-believers. Once players get out of the number they can have somwhat decent careers (not all, but many). But those who wear the number are disproportionately hampered by significant injuries.That's the nature of the beast for higher numbers. A good player like Dylan Moore will move to a lower jumper number, others will stay on the list for 1 or 2 years before moving or being moved on.
I acknowledge other numbers in the 30's and of course, there is also number 44, that have had players who have owned their higher numbers (Cyril 33, John Kennedy 34, James Morrisey 35, Angelo Lekkas/Brendan Whitecross 37, Robert Campbell 39, John Platten 44) but this is not consistent through the last 50 years for these numbers. 38 for instance also doesn't have any players of note unless you count the great Billy Nicholls who became infamous through other means,
36, apart from Dylan, has had some other players who have worn the number and have had reasonably successful careers, most of whom moved on to other clubs. Max Bailey of course, a Hawthorn premiership player wore it. Others included Gary Ablett for 1 year, Brad Scott before moving the Brisbane and let's not forget Josh Kennedy. Did back luck cause these 3 to move on? I don't think so.
Tim Boyle and Alex Woodward who are also frequently brought up as proof the number is cursed finished their careers at Hawthorn in other numbers. Tim had 4 more years before finishing and Alex 3 before moving on and playing with Collingwood's VFL side.
So good players have worn the number (there have been 35 over the last 50 years) and it just how it pans out with the number allocations given to new players. Are we going to say if Cyril was given a number 3 digits higher his career would have been over in 2 to 3 years. I don't think so.
Thanks for the opportunity to review and reminisce (and thanks also to the spreadsheet of jumper numbers available on the Hawthorn website in the history section).
PS I remember most of the players from the 80's onwards, especially through the 90's and to the present date who wore 36. Some stood out and played a few games, most only stayed a year or two in the reserves or at Box Hill.
PPS I don't walk under ladders!!!!
Good point Tommy!!!I think you've made the case for the curse-believers. Once players get out of the number they can have somwhat decent careers (not all, but many). But those who wear the number are disproportionately hampered by significant injuries.
If you can share with me the games missed due to injury vs games played ratio on a per number basis then I'll believe you![]()
You're not helping your case here.38 for instance also doesn't have any players of note unless you count the great Billy Nicholls who became infamous through other means,
36, apart from Dylan, has had some other players who have worn the number and have had reasonably successful careers, most of whom moved on to other clubs. Max Bailey of course, a Hawthorn premiership player wore it. Others included Gary Ablett for 1 year, Brad Scott before moving the Brisbane and let's not forget Josh Kennedy. Did back luck cause these 3 to move on? I don't think so.
WTAF are you guys talking about 36 is the Midas touch.You're not helping your case here.
38 was also worn by Lance Franklin.
You've mentioned players who had successful careers that wore 36. Although you've mentioned Max Bailey who had 3x ACL injuries and then degenerative knee issues that had him retire at 26 after only 43 games. The fact he became a premiership player is a great story and shows how talented he was, yet without the curse his first 8 years would have racked up at least 100 games and he'd still have at least 5 years ahead of him.
Then you've mentioned 3x very good to all time great players that wore 36 yet played nearly their entire careers at other clubs.
Sounds like a curse to me.
With the exception of Dylan Moore. Every number 36 has either had major injuries, been delisted without impact, or gone on to star at other clubs. This just isn't true with other numbers even in the 30s where you can name a good player off the top of your head.
30 - Campbell Brown, Tony Woods
31 - Dew, Macdonald, Henderson
32 - Anthony Rock, Jonathan Simpkin, Finn Maginness, Ben Dixon
33 - Josh Thurgood
34 - Mark Graham, Brent Renouf, John Kennedy Jnr, Nick Watson
35 - Morrissey, Calsher Dear
36 -
37 - Lekkas, Whitecrhoss
38 - Lance Franklin
39 - Robert Campbell