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I don’t think Nas value will get any higher than right now, if that is what Williams is doing surely he finalizes this week.

stavro#4 you giving him $2m a year for 2 years yet?
Don't care what stav does, was calling for that two weeks ago.
 
If we are going to make Nas the highest paid player in the AFL, I would hope we would be pushing for a long contract.
Sure, if he doesn’t want more than 2 then just do that.

I really don’t get this mentality.

If the choice is keep him for 2 years to try and convince him OR lose him now then it’s a no brainer.
 

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The absolute fan in me says yes. I don’t care about the money.

The member in me, wants a commitment that avoids doing this again in 2 years - because at that point I’m not sure we come away with nas signing up again.

Am I making sense to you?
Best player in the comp, you would take whatever commitment you can get, trying to force a longer one on him would be foolish. If we are top 4-6 in 2 years time and he’s settled better in Melbourne then you would think he re-commits.
 
Still on a high from last night, what an amazing comeback.

However, it’s almost bittersweet until NAS extends. I’m not bothered regarding the years, preferably it’s long term. However I think we are on the way up, we need to lock NAS in for whatever we can for.

I just can’t help but feel if it isn’t this week.. it isn’t happening. His value contract wise has peaked now, he has shown he’s a superstar mid with a clutch gene to match.

I doubt we are going to get beaten money wise, I just hope we aren’t being cute with the contract offers.

If he leaves I think it would be a devastating blow. Understatement of the year, but jeez I hope he stays.
 
Best case, they annpounce it at review this morning with the media team filming. Post it this evening beofre all teh shows kick off. Would be brilliant PR for the club. Saints talk all week.
Video on the most recent page of the post game thread is either a sign he has signed or us being very cringey for celebrating with Nas on Ross’s shoulders for a H&A game is my thoughts.
 
If we are going to make Nas the highest paid player in the AFL, I would hope we would be pushing for a long contract.
He’s 22 and homesick, you just do whatever he needs to feel comfortable… strong-arming him would be a shocking approach.
 

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He’s 22 and homesick, you just do whatever he needs to feel comfortable… strong-arming him would be a shocking approach.

Just so it's clear, I'm not saying we strong arm him. I'm just saying if it's $2 million plus, we should be putting it as a long contract rather than defaulting to a 2 year contract.
 
Best player in the comp, you would take whatever commitment you can get, trying to force a longer one on him would be foolish. If we are top 4-6 in 2 years time and he’s settled better in Melbourne then you would think he re-commits.
And as I’ve pointed out.

We lose more if nas bails in 2 years. There isn’t any strong arming here.

If hypothetically, which is all we are discussing. Is that he wants $2m I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the club to be like yeah and we want a bigger commitment.

If nas leaves in 2 years and we haven’t won a flag. It doesn’t matter what our list looks like, we drop back significantly and has lost 2 years.
 

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WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SAINTS’ OFFER

St Kilda’s current offer is $1.4 million over two seasons.
It isn’t linked or compromised in any way by their $1.7 million a year deal for De Koning.
They have money to go around, they have scope to improve that offer if it is the only thing that will keep Nas there.
As recently as a month ago they believed Adelaide’s offer was eight years at $1.2 million but even that looks woefully inadequate now.

Those clubs are prepared to open the chequebook on deals of 8-10 years of $1.5 million or more and could front-end those deals to hit $2 million in early years given their cap space.

But as the Herald Sun has reported this year, he isn’t especially homesick, he loves Ross Lyon, he loves his housemates including Mitch Owens and Marcus Windhager and he is keen to finish what he started at St Kilda.

Still, there is the pull of his Yo-Chi mates Jase Burgoyne and Jason Horne-Francis at Port Adelaide, who he caught up with over frozen treats across the bye round.

Adelaide hopes its on field fortunes mean he is considering them seriously but in the background they fear that if there is smoke there is at least some fire over his reticence to join them over Taylor Walker’s previous racist controversy.

His manager Ben Williams is keen for him to be paid fairly as St Kilda’s best player, even if De Koning would trump his deal.
Williams is aware St Kilda would offer any contract length to satisfy him – a two-year deal, four years to free agency, any long-term triggers he wants.

But Williams has asked St Kilda to present that two-year deal in a sign they have to be in the race.
 


WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SAINTS’ OFFER

St Kilda’s current offer is $1.4 million over two seasons.
It isn’t linked or compromised in any way by their $1.7 million a year deal for De Koning.
They have money to go around, they have scope to improve that offer if it is the only thing that will keep Nas there.
As recently as a month ago they believed Adelaide’s offer was eight years at $1.2 million but even that looks woefully inadequate now.

Those clubs are prepared to open the chequebook on deals of 8-10 years of $1.5 million or more and could front-end those deals to hit $2 million in early years given their cap space.

But as the Herald Sun has reported this year, he isn’t especially homesick, he loves Ross Lyon, he loves his housemates including Mitch Owens and Marcus Windhager and he is keen to finish what he started at St Kilda.

Still, there is the pull of his Yo-Chi mates Jase Burgoyne and Jason Horne-Francis at Port Adelaide, who he caught up with over frozen treats across the bye round.

Adelaide hopes its on field fortunes mean he is considering them seriously but in the background they fear that if there is smoke there is at least some fire over his reticence to join them over Taylor Walker’s previous racist controversy.

His manager Ben Williams is keen for him to be paid fairly as St Kilda’s best player, even if De Koning would trump his deal.
Williams is aware St Kilda would offer any contract length to satisfy him – a two-year deal, four years to free agency, any long-term triggers he wants.

But Williams has asked St Kilda to present that two-year deal in a sign they have to be in the race.


This is the key thing. Let's not forget the man himself has said this over and over. I think the homesickness was a real factor before he extended last time. He is not desperate to leave. Why would he leave now when Port are rubbish and there is uncertainty regarding their coach, we are on the up, he loves RTB/club/players and we will give him a great monetary deal.
 
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