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We need to finish below St Kilda at all costs.

St Kilda were one of the clubs last year that pressured Essendon with a trade threat for their first-round pick - warning they’d place a bid on Kako otherwise.

Hopefully they don’t pull the same move with Dean.
SOS will bid on everyone to turn up the heat on the AFL to abandon father son and academy players in the 1st round
 
We need to finish below St Kilda at all costs.

St Kilda were one of the clubs last year that pressured Essendon with a trade threat for their first-round pick - warning they’d place a bid on Kako otherwise.

Hopefully they don’t pull the same move with Dean.
Saints will win two of the last three. We might beat Essendon.
 
I’d rather trade Curnow to Brisbane than GC. Though they might not have the cap for Curnow and Draper.

The below is probably achievable.

FA Out
TDK:
Pick 8
JSOS: End of First

Trade
Brisbane:
Curnow + F3
Carlton: Bailey + F1

Eagles: Cripps & Motlop & Acres & Bris 2nd
Carlton: Chesser + Hawks First + Eagles 2nd

Saints: Eagles 2nd
Carlton: Darcy Wilson

Melbourne: JSOS Compo + F2 Carlton
Carlton: Lever + F2 Melbourne

DFA: Rosas

Draft Picks 2025 (before bids):
TDK Compo 8 - Best Available
Hawks First 15 - Dean
3rd - Riley
4th - Ison

Draft Picks 2026:
F1, Brisbane F1, Melbourne F2 & F4.

2026 Team

FB:
Newman - Weitering - Haynes
HB: Hollands - Lever - Chesser
C:
Walsh - Lord - Wilson
F:
Pittonet - Cowan - Cerra
HF: Bailey - Kemp - Williams
FF: Rosas - McKay -Moir
S: HOK, Hewett, Carroll, Hollands, Cottrell

Brings in the speed and foot skills that we desperately need.
Curnow and a F3 (roughly 43) for Bailey and a F1 (roughly 16) is really bad and leaves heaps on the table.

Bailey would be roughly worth around pick 12 on his own and going off past big player trades we’d get 2 x 1st round picks before even considering trading Curnow.

Cripps, Motlop, Acres and Bris 2nd for Chesser, Hawks 1st (15) Eagles 2nd (20) is really bad.

Chesser will be a DFA, he has no current, Acres and Motlop would both get us a 3rd round pick, so you are giving Cripps away.

Trade for Lever is ok but why go after a 30 year old defender at this stage?
 
Was just wondering what I am missing with him.

Great wheels, neat disposal...recall him having a good game against us which we all know is mandatory in a trade target.
Not like he'll have any competition for his spot with us.

BTW, the way the Hawks are playing tonight, I cannot wait for the presser... #FlysSeethingRage
 

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Curnow and a F3 (roughly 43) for Bailey and a F1 (roughly 16) is really bad and leaves heaps on the table.

Bailey would be roughly worth around pick 12 on his own and going off past big player trades we’d get 2 x 1st round picks before even considering trading Curnow.
Curnow is 29 next year and has had 3 knee surgeries this year alone. His value whilst still high, isn’t crazy atm..

I also think you maybe underrating Bailey and the influence he’d have on our forward line (premiership experience)

Cripps, Motlop, Acres and Bris 2nd for Chesser, Hawks 1st (15) Eagles 2nd (20) is really bad.

Chesser will be a DFA, he has no current, Acres and Motlop would both get us a 3rd round pick, so you are giving Cripps away.
Cripps (31) - Pick 15 and a 2nd rounder (16 pick) upgrade seems fair to me. If he wants to go home.

IMO Motlop, Acres and Chesser are all worth SFA, maybe WCE could chuck in a third rounder.

Chesser offers more of the attributes we need speed and foot skills.

Trade for Lever is ok but why go after a 30 year old defender at this stage?

Firstly I expect us to bounce next year and at least make finals, while Melbourne I’d expect to be bottom 3. So, I’d be happy to gamble with second rounders, as I’d expect a pick upgraded in 2026 in a better draft.

Lever would add (premiership experience and leadership) to our defence for the next few years allowing HOF and Dean to build/grow into their bodies.

You can insert/remove any names you like, but I wanted to focus on speed, foot skills, leadership and premiership experience.
 
Curnow is 29 next year and has had 3 knee surgeries this year alone. His value whilst still high, isn’t crazy atm..

I also think you maybe underrating Bailey and the influence he’d have on our forward line (premiership experience)


Cripps (31) - Pick 15 and a 2nd rounder (16 pick) upgrade seems fair to me. If he wants to go home.

IMO Motlop, Acres and Chesser are all worth SFA, maybe WCE could chuck in a third rounder.

Chesser offers more of the attributes we need speed and foot skills.



Firstly I expect us to bounce next year and at least make finals, while Melbourne I’d expect to be bottom 3. So, I’d be happy to gamble with second rounders, as I’d expect a pick upgraded in 2026 in a better draft.

Lever would add (premiership experience and leadership) to our defence for the next few years allowing HOF and Dean to build/grow into their bodies.

You can insert/remove any names you like, but I wanted to focus on speed, foot skills, leadership and premiership experience.
I definitely would not want to be gambling with our own future picks this off season, especially with an assumption that we’d make finals (or even be thereabouts). We’ve been burned badly this year, can’t see it happening again anytime soon.
 
Curnow is 29 next year and has had 3 knee surgeries this year alone. His value whilst still high, isn’t crazy atm..

I also think you maybe underrating Bailey and the influence he’d have on our forward line (premiership experience)


Cripps (31) - Pick 15 and a 2nd rounder (16 pick) upgrade seems fair to me. If he wants to go home.

IMO Motlop, Acres and Chesser are all worth SFA, maybe WCE could chuck in a third rounder.

Chesser offers more of the attributes we need speed and foot skills.



Firstly I expect us to bounce next year and at least make finals, while Melbourne I’d expect to be bottom 3. So, I’d be happy to gamble with second rounders, as I’d expect a pick upgraded in 2026 in a better draft.

Lever would add (premiership experience and leadership) to our defence for the next few years allowing HOF and Dean to build/grow into their bodies.

You can insert/remove any names you like, but I wanted to focus on speed, foot skills, leadership and premiership experience.
Oscar Allen is earmarked for Brisbane.
Curnow won't be going there.
Voss is in survival mode next season, very little chance he will be up for losing Curnow etc, he will bank on getting a better season from him & others.
 
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Curnow and a F3 (roughly 43) for Bailey and a F1 (roughly 16) is really bad and leaves heaps on the table.

Bailey would be roughly worth around pick 12 on his own and going off past big player trades we’d get 2 x 1st round picks before even considering trading Curnow.


Cripps, Motlop, Acres and Bris 2nd for Chesser, Hawks 1st (15) Eagles 2nd (20) is really bad.

Chesser will be a DFA, he has no current, Acres and Motlop would both get us a 3rd round pick, so you are giving Cripps away.

Trade for Lever is ok but why go after a 30 year old defender at this stage?
You are severely underrating Zac Bailey dude. Brisbane would laugh us out of the room if we offered this trade.
 
Anyone have some details on why Jiath hasn't played any games this year?
Form or injury?
It's defiantly form related for CJ, at times he can be very very soft and miss easy tackles. His good games are very good but his bad games are very bad no in between with him.
 
GWS cleaned out non-committed players (Taranto et al) when they changed coach, it can be a good thing if managed properly around a senior core
GWS were loaded with talent from the never ending cycle they’ve been in of getting high picks from their academy and as a start up team.

They’ve been constantly able to let guys go and get high picks back because they’ve had such great depth.

Taranto, Williams, Shiel etc were surplus to requirements.

Cameron was the one real big loss they had and I’d argue that’s cost them a flag or two.

We are not GWS. We don’t have a bunch of other high end talents that would be hanging around if Curnow etc are gone.
 
GWS were loaded with talent from the never ending cycle they’ve been in of getting high picks from their academy and as a start up team.

They’ve been constantly able to let guys go and get high picks back because they’ve had such great depth.

Taranto, Williams, Shiel etc were surplus to requirements.

Cameron was the one real big loss they had and I’d argue that’s cost them a flag or two.

We are not GWS. We don’t have a bunch of other high end talents that would be hanging around if Curnow etc are gone.

Never suggested that it would be easy - though we do have SC space from losing TDK and a northern academy's worth of talent linked to us over the next 2-3 years
 
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