List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Just spitballing as always but with the names rumoured to be on the trade table I thought I'd fill in some time. Had heard a lot about Chesser's month of reincarnation so went back to check out all the tape today and holy crap he can play. Coming from a long way back after injury but he's got plenty of talent if he can stay on the park.

Unfortunately with us likely finishing 11th after what should be a comfortable win vs the Bombers we'll end up with a compo pick right in line with a Dean bid so I can only assume we'll be looking at trading it out for players.

Would love a better small forward option to fill that gap than Ryan and Rosas but there's absolutely bugger all out there.

Out
TDK > Band 1 Compo (Pick 9)
JSOS > Band 2/3 Compo (27)
Blake Acres

13

Blake Acres

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

7.7

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.0

3star

D

8.2

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.8

4star

> GWS 2025 2nd (36)
Jesse Motlop > Freo 2025 3rd (48)
Mitch McGovern

11

Mitch Mcgovern

Age

31

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

189.8

3star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.1

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

179.6

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

218.0

4star

> Free to a good home
Cincotta > Delisted
Orazio > Delisted
Monahan > Delisted
Doch > Retired

In
Pick 9 + Pick 43 > WCE Pick 14 (Haw) + Pick 32 + Campbell Chesser
WCE Pick 14 > Melb Pick 53 + Judd McVee
Pick 36 > Sydney Ollie Florent
Pick 53 > Adelaide Jordan Butts
2026 2nd/3rd > WCE Liam Ryan
DFA > Malcolm Rosas

F/S > Harry Dean
NGA > Jack Ison
NGA > Mingara Clark


2026 team

FB: Lachie Cowan - Jacob Weitering

23

Jacob Weitering

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

- Ollie Florent
HB: Judd McVee - Jordan Butts - Nic Newman

24

Nic Newman

Age

32

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

C: Ollie Hollands - Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

30

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

- Campbell Chesser
R: Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

29

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

- Jagga Smith - Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

HF: Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- Harry Mckay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

- Zac Williams
FF: Ashton Moir - Charlie Curnow

35

Charlie Curnow

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

- Brodie Kemp

I/C: Adam Cerra - Nick Haynes

26

Nick Haynes

Age

33

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

- Malcolm Rosas - George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

Sub: Frank The Tank

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

2027 and onwards the team would be beautifully balanced. Somehow nab Neocleous or Butler with our 2026 first + Cody and I'd be dreaming of a flag in the late 2020s.


Ollie Florent - Jacob Weitering

23

Jacob Weitering

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

- Harry Dean
Lachie Cowan - Harry O'Farrell - Judd McVee

Ollie Hollands - Cody Walker - Campbell Chesser
Hudson O'Keefe - Jagga Smith - Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

Arki Butler - Harry Mckay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

- Jack Ison
Ashton Moir - Charlie Curnow

35

Charlie Curnow

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

- Brodie Kemp

Adam Cerra - Matthew Carroll - Elijah Hollands - Malcolm Rosas

Matthew Cottrell

 

[katmanblue]

This. They haven’t been able to get it right and hence he looks frustrated.
I felt Young was allowed to play that deep defender role last week and it therefore released / allowed Weits to get up the ground and intercept. IMO - this is a trust issue.

Weitering looks at #33 he doesn't see Lewis Young. He sees NotJones. This is the issue.

 

[katmanblue]

only way he stays if saints pull the offer

Until the offer is "official," there's no offer.

 

[Garters]

Weitering looks at #33 he doesn't see Lewis Young. He sees NotJones. This is the issue.

Which is on Weitering to be fair. Jones ain't coming back. Deal with it and move on.
Haynes has been every bit as good as Jones ever was.
Weiters hasn't been terrible this year has just shown himself up against what we are used to. But he does seem to be sulking it up a lot!
Think a few of these guys need some fresh voices and a bit of a reset.
Head of football appointment and our new assistant coaches can't be named soon enough.

 

[jungojungojungo]

So does TDK to Saints still feel real with the Nas news?

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

If you had it your way, we’d trade out all our good players

These so called "good players" have led us to one PF in 10 seasons. One. But yeah, lets keep doing the same old thing.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Shane Rogers, is that you?

No Idea who that is.

 

[Jimmae]

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Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera has reportedly re-signed with the Saints on a deal worth around $2 million per season for two years. If the reported figures for TDK are accurate, that would see the Saints committing close to $3.8 million annually (roughly 24% of the total salary cap) to just two players. Surely the $1.8 million figure for TDK can’t be right?

The cap goes up next year again, so the figures would amount to around 20% of the TPP - if reflective of expected payments and appearances - but it does seem ridiculous either way.

This new school of thought of 1 or 2 superstars, then a chunk of stars, and the rest of this list is foot soldiers to support the system and youngsters to develop over time is a bit detached from reality.

Teams can and will shut 3 or 4 players on the opposition every week, and they'll spend the time and money breaking down systems and recruiting defensive coaches and players to make it happen if they're affordable. Just feel like this kind of thinking will fritter away recruitment opportunities from St Kilda faster than bringing TDK in can create them.

If it's just a front-loaded deal and he's at $1.4m average over the length of the contract, then it's far more reasonable and just exploiting our salary cap.

That contract doesn’t get near enough criticism.

5 year deal after doing 5x hamstrings in 12 months is nuts.

He played through a fair bit of the issues, it wasn't just him tearing his hamstrings and/or scar tissue 5 times.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

If they have banked maximum salary they can over pay an extra million or so, so nearer 2.7 on two players in terms of cap hit.

Doable when you consider the balance of their list.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

No Idea who that is.

Exactly what Shane Rogers would say...

 

[Aphrodite]

No Idea who that is.

Ex National Recruiting Manager

 

[Blueyourmyboy!!]

Ex National Recruiting Manager

View attachment 2399261

Potato.

 

[Benaly28]

To pay two players that much will surely create animosity among the players.

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

What was worse, the Jaksch trade or the Stocker trade?

 

[BlueTongue]

Weitering looks at #33 he doesn't see Lewis Young. He sees NotJones. This is the issue.

After the spray he gave Acres on Saturday I'm beginning to think he sees everyone as 'Not Jacob'

 

[Benaly28]

What was worse, the Jaksch trade or the Stocker trade?

Jaksch by a mile

 

[Gointocarlton]

Ex National Recruiting Manager

View attachment 2399261

That photo makes me shudder with fear.

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

Jaksch by a mile

Funny that SOS laughed at that one and then tried to trade the Charlie pick for Tomlinson.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

What was worse, the Jaksch trade or the Stocker trade?

The McLean and Thomas trades worse than both.

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

The McLean and Thomas trades worse than both.

Daisy was a FA?

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Daisy was a FA?

Yes. Resulting in the loss of Betts.

Crows got 132, 302 goals, 3 AA seasons and thousands of members out of Betts.

We got 100 odd games of meh from Thomas.

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

Yes. Resulting in the loss of Betts.

Had nothing to do with Betts, just meant we didn't get compo for him

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Had nothing to do with Betts, just meant we didn't get compo for him

Had everything to do with Betts.

The obscene amount of money spent on Thomas left nothing for Betts. The no compo was just the turd flavoured cherry on top.

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

Had everything to do with Betts.

The obscene amount of money spent on Thomas left nothing for Betts. The no compo was just the turd flavoured cherry on top.

Nah