Autopsy 2025 Rd 1 Most Embarrassing Loss in Years

[jj1978]

Did anyone really think that a soon to turn 34 year old was going to be the answer?

Our inability to have obtained via the draft or trade a resilient and capable KPD in the last 10 years outside of Weitering has been a shambles. Even KPF to take over from Harry and Charlie in the coming years needs to be taken seriously. We're just not the kind of club like Sydney, Collingwood and such that can just magically recruit these players of need.

 

[mikey83]

Not sure why so many people are in a rush to pot Voss. We have been overly dependent on one midfielder for 10 years now through 4 different coaches.

At this point, you have to question the list management above anything else. There is no excuse for still being so dependent in Cripps through the middle.

On top of that, serious questions need to be asked when players like Motlop are on the list, let alone have a spot in the best 22. Owies might not have been a star but he's a far better player than Motlop and Evans, and shouldn't have been pushed out of the door over our other small fwds (and no I don't subscribe to the contract excuse).

Its 2025 and the modern standards of the game demand at least 3 quality small forwards. This clearly takes precedence over a second quality tall forward. Hawthorn and Sam Mitchell were smart enough to realize this and recruited Nick Watson, Jack Ginnivan, Connor Macdonald, and still have Dylan Moore and Luke Breust.
Meanwhile with us, our list management is stuck in the past believing key forwards are everything. We have given a large portion of the cap to McKay and Curnow, and still don't have a single good small forward. We should've taken the path Collingwood did with Grundy; make a tough decision for the good of the team. Keep Curnow, cut McKay, then use the draft capital + salary space to lure someone like Stengle/Hayward.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Is it too much to ask for AFL footballers to be able to kick the ball to a teammate?

 

[ESKIE]

Thought they could just rock up, too much focus on round 2

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Really had to make a ballsy move last off-season.

Should’ve parted with McKay and propped up our small fwd ranks. After another failed year these blokes will hold no currency. We are so terrified of breaking up this group and upsetting the players though.

We won’t be sacking Voss, so get ready for a big clean out.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Haynes is the worst player I’ve ever seen

He crashed into Weitering going backwards with the flight of the ball two or three times

He dropped sitters, kicked balls to poor positions on the ground, missed targets by 10-15 meters

Also terrible were Motlop, McKay, Evans and Kemp

Don’t think you can play Motlop or Evans next week, some of those efforts were deplorable

What upset me probably most last night was McGovern going backward with the flight and dropping his head (and the ball) just moments after he watched his 70kg teammate Hollands go backwards and get cleaned up

 

[Styxx]

The game only proved that a majority of the playing list only do things by halves. Half a game, half a season etc.

Normally in a situation like this I get mad and rant and rave about it, but I legitimately didn't care last night. Just shrugged, went to bed and slept soundly.

 

[jackn]

Voss has been a senior coach for 9 years... tell me one creative out of the box thing he's done that sets him apart.

Earned a nickname based on his coaching?

 

[Shambolic]

Worst Carlton debut since that poor kid Marcus Davies who shanked and dropped everything. A shocking game of errors.

What a year to spend up big on Blues membership!


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[Dan Moody]

Sorry for dropping by and genuinely not trolling here but I understand this loss hurts but it also had the capacity to be a 100 point win the way the first half was going.
Something fell away to drop off that badly, don't sweat it too much, I still think Carlton will fall around 5-8 at the end of the h & a season. My missus is a Carlton supporter and went last night, I went to bed and was fast asleep before she got home.
No doubt, based on her texts to me during the 2nd half last night, I'll hear about it after work tonight.
Chin up, you'll still be there at the pointy end of the season

 

[Bluebleeder]

Hi Baggers - Been a member for nearly 40 years
That loss is right up there with all time capitulations in footy against a team tipped to be spooners
Lets face facts we have shite recruiters, a shite coaching panel and apart from about 3 or 4
a very very shite team - no fight no guts

McGuane Buckley and co were all on the money - we wont make finals - not even close

Winter is coming and its going to get very cold ....

 

[tarczonandjane]

It’s a long season. It’s kind of ironic how that game almost mirrored our victory in round 0 last year.

I haven’t read the comments in this thread. But I echo anyone who bemoans our small forwards.

Anyway, for me the big issue is that the coach has been clear on how he wants us to play. And I would say that except for about six glorious rounds in late 2023, the side has proved itself utterly incapable of playing that style of football.

It is not sustainable to maintain a coach with a clear vision of how to play and a list that continually proves itself incapable of playing that way.

 

[simioni11]

Play the kids who can hit a target and have more speed then a damn turtle

 

[Bluebleeder]

By The Way Harry McKay - one of the worst forwards in history - how does he keep getting a game ??

 

[Revenant1995]

For me, poor skills, poor game plan, poor tactics, and as a team as a whole poor on field presence. For me, that's on the coaches. That's not to deny other factors or poor (or good) individual performances. I hope I'm proved wrong, but right now it feels like it's going to be a long year...

 

[mikey83]

By The Way Harry McKay - one of the worst forwards in history - how does he keep getting a game ??

Wait until you hear how much he's being paid.

 

[macca_74]

Missed pittonet that game, could have had TDK forward plus TDK is never great against the big lug bucks like Nank.

Kemp didn't have much presence and, at the ground, I feel like I saw him get quadriple teamed in contests. So having a better presence could have helped.

Lastly, That was the limpest game I have seen from Harry. I do wonder what happened there.

Kemp is the least of our concerns. No forward patterns to create free players. If Kemp is getting double, triple, quadrupled teamed then their should be gaps for others. Either the players aren’t doing as instructed or the coaches have nfi. Has to be the latter as hard to believe the players could be this low in footy iq and go against coaches instructions


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[bigm386]

Missed pittonet that game, could have had TDK forward plus TDK is never great against the big lug bucks like Nank.

Kemp didn't have much presence and, at the ground, I feel like I saw him get quadriple teamed in contests. So having a better presence could have helped.

Lastly, That was the limpest game I have seen from Harry. I do wonder what happened there.

Add Pittonet to that team and we lose by 6+ goals.

 

[Blue__Balls]

For me, poor skills, poor game plan, poor tactics, and as a team as a whole poor on field presence. For me, that's on the coaches. That's not to deny other factors or poor (or good) individual performances. I hope I'm proved wrong, but right now it feels like it's going to be a long year...

Nah. Players falling over left, right and centre, dropping uncontested marks, fumbling ground balls, missing easy targets by hand and foot, missing tackles - players who have all shown they can execute, just last night they didn't. That's on the players, 100%. They weren't switched on, or they were and then they switched off, and once the rot set in the panic spread. Cripps was about the only one-touch player on the night - the only one who walks the talk when it comes to standards.

Have said it before and will say it again - no coach is directing their players to ignore a lead and just dump the kick as far as possible. And even if in some bizarro world they are, no player who has made the top grade should be listening to that direction.

 

[alfo]

Play the kids who can hit a target and have more speed then a damn turtle

And who might they be on our list? [emoji1787]

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[Revenant1995]

Nah. Players falling over left, right and centre, dropping uncontested marks, fumbling ground balls, missing easy targets by hand and foot, missing tackles - players who have all shown they can execute, just last night they didn't. That's on the players, 100%. They weren't switched on, or they were and then they switched off, and once the rot set in the panic spread. Cripps was about the only one-touch player on the night - the only one who walks the talk when it comes to standards.

Have said it before and will say it again - no coach is directing their players to ignore a lead and just dump the kick as far as possible. And even if in some bizarro world they are, no player who has made the top grade should be listening to that direction.

I'm not disagreeing with what you said, and this is a genuine question, but given it happens so often, isn't that on the coaches to fix it / inspire better performances?

 

[Soapy V]

Game on the line against a young side and we lose tackle count by 10 in last quarter.

Something is very wrong at Princes Park

 

[ESKIE]

Played with no confidence, head in the clouds….I keep telling myself its only round 1

 

[Soapy V]

Haynes is the worst player I’ve ever seen

He crashed into Weitering going backwards with the flight of the ball two or three times

He dropped sitters, kicked balls to poor positions on the ground, missed targets by 10-15 meters

Also terrible were Motlop, McKay, Evans and Kemp

Don’t think you can play Motlop or Evans next week, some of those efforts were deplorable

What upset me probably most last night was McGovern going backward with the flight and dropping his head (and the ball) just moments after he watched his 70kg teammate Hollands go backwards and get cleaned up

Is this the same Haynes I copped a heap of crap for saying at 33 we can’t expect him to be answer and shouldn’t be best 22 each week?

He is cheap back up and depth

 

[Mr.X]

Worst loss in a decade

Embarrassing stuff.

This side is not hungry, and believes too much of its own hype

Appalling effort