List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[Anzacday]

For some reason I feel the need to reference this post

 

[gouki88]

You don’t think offensive flexibility is more valuable than defensive?
Not sure many would agree.

Never said that, you're again trying to fight a point you want people to make rather than the one being made

 

[No SPIN]

Never said that, you're again trying to fight a point you want people to make rather than the one being made

I asked a question- so you could clarify your position.
I then suggested that one side of the argument ie. offensive flexibility would be more valued by most.
Not sure why that’s contentious.

 

[manicpie]

 

[NMBB]

Sounds like a married couple.

I know whose side I'm on but I'm not saying because I don't want to bring the Middle East here

 

[gouki88]

I asked a question- so you could clarify your position.
I then suggested that one side of the argument ie. offensive flexibility would be more valued by most.
Not sure why that’s contentious.

The position is clear that Rowell is more valuable than De Goey, by a fair margin. In a vacuum attack is more valued than defence, but you have insisted that these players have multiple strings to their bow where Rowell does not.

 

[jmac70]

The position is clear that Rowell is more valuable than De Goey, by a fair margin. In a vacuum attack is more valued than defence, but you have insisted that these players have multiple strings to their bow where Rowell does not.

 

[gouki88]

That would be quite nice. Rowell feeding it to Nick who laces out a leading De Goey in the 2026 granny would be perfectly fine by me

 

[NMBB]

That would be quite nice. Rowell feeding it to Nick who laces out a leading De Goey in the 2026 granny would be perfectly fine by me

Yes but if you read my earlier post you would understand that that is a position which I have previously explained to you so I don't know why I'm posting here

 

[Apex36]

You actually accepted the logic - that having more flexibility would come at a premium for players like Heeney over Rowell.
It’s an inescapable conclusion- otherwise you would have dismissed flexibility of Heeney etc over Rowell as irrelevant - and not infer such players would come at premium.
Hence your statement.

“What makes you think that these players who you claim are so much more valuable than Rowell, would be the same price as Rowell? That makes no sense”

All good let’s move on.

Questioning a premise presented to you does not = accepting the logic. It’s insane that you don’t understand that.

 

[Apex36]

The whole point though is that it wouldn’t be a straight swap. So the comparison is not really fair.

What does this even mean? Any extra cost associated with a trade is essentially a lottery ticket. This is why I’ve been talking about list management being about playing the odds/percentages.

 

[Apex36]

You don’t think offensive flexibility is more valuable than defensive?
Not sure many would agree.

Except every expert in history who’s declared that defenses win flags.

 

[Apex36]

That’s the scenario in an ideal world.

 

[JuniorB]

It's a case of comparing apples and oranges - Rowell is the orange, of course.

 

[No SPIN]

Except every expert in history who’s declared that defenses win flags.

System is different to individuals.

Aren’t the most sought after players (and often highest paid) Goal kickers not defenders.
Constant talk here about, King, JUH - not much talk about paying huge money for a defender.

 

[Apex36]

System is different to individuals.

Aren’t the most sought after players (and often highest paid) Goal kickers not defenders.
Constant talk here about, King, JUH - not much talk about paying huge money for a defender.

Because we already have some of the best defenders in the league and a rock solid defensive unit, while we haven’t had a 50 goal key forward for over a decade.

If we didn’t have Moore and Howe you could bet your bottom dollar that the discussion would be revolving around spending big money on bringing in a premier defender and not a premier forward.

Good key defenders have become a lot more desirable and a lot more expensive in recent years.

 

[Apex36]

You know what, you’re right Anzacday , I’m not going to reply anymore, this has become insufferable.

 

[No SPIN]

Because we already have some of the best defenders in the league and a rock solid defensive unit, while we haven’t had a 50 goal key forward for over a decade.

If we didn’t have Moore and Howe you could bet your bottom dollar that the discussion would be revolving around spending big money on bringing in a premier defender and not a premier forward.

Good key defenders have become a lot more desirable and a lot more expensive in recent years.

Yes, they have, but Goal kickers are still preferred.
Howe is on the verge of retiring but we are still talking about King, JUH - not a gun defender.

 

[Pistol Night]

Now flognuts at the Hun is speculating Checkers is on the move

 

[Pistol Night]

Collingwood premiership star Brody Mihocek

28

Brody Mihocek

Age

33

Ht

192cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

8.2

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

G

1.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

has been told he will be offered a new Pies deal but is likely to park negotiations amid interest in experienced key position forwards from rival AFL clubs.
Mihocek will take on St Kilda this weekend having enjoyed another strong season with 23 goals in 11 games despite missing contests with a minor abdominal sprain earlier this season.
The VFL success story turned 32 in February and is one of the many plus-30 Pies who are now being told they will be offered extensions by Collingwood by around rounds 18-21.
Collingwood is keen for the likes of Scott Pendlebury

10

Scott Pendlebury

Age

38

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

, Steele Sidebottom

22

Steele Sidebottom

Age

35

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.4

5star

K

14.1

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.7

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

24.0

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

12.0

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

31.6

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

17.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

6.0

5star

, Jeremy Howe

38

Jeremy Howe

Age

35

Ht

190cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

21.5

5star

K

16.5

5star

HB

5.0

3star

M

6.5

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

433.3

5star

D

15.2

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

and Jamie Elliott to play on and has started the process of contract talks.

Brody Mihocek

28

Brody Mihocek

Age

33

Ht

192cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

8.2

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

G

1.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

is likely to put contract talks with Collingwood on hold.
But Mihocek is likely to park those discussions until the end of the home-and-away season.
There are clubs in the market keen for unrestricted free agents like key forward Mihocek who would be happy to offer multi-year deals.

 

[Exambolor]

Now flognuts at the Hun is speculating Checkers is on the move

Is our old friend J Ralph in on that?

 

[Pistol Night]

Is our old friend J Ralph in on that?

You got it

 

[Doc1763]

Now flognuts at the Hun is speculating Checkers is on the move

the article says he will be offered a new contract - hopefully for 2 years

 

[Doc1763]

Collingwood premiership star Brody Mihocek has been told he will be offered a new Pies deal but is likely to park negotiations amid interest in experienced key position forwards from rival AFL clubs.
Mihocek will take on St Kilda this weekend having enjoyed another strong season with 23 goals in 11 games despite missing contests with a minor abdominal sprain earlier this season.
The VFL success story turned 32 in February and is one of the many plus-30 Pies who are now being told they will be offered extensions by Collingwood by around rounds 18-21.
Collingwood is keen for the likes of Scott Pendlebury, Steele Sidebottom, Jeremy Howe and Jamie Elliott to play on and has started the process of contract talks.

Brody Mihocek is likely to put contract talks with Collingwood on hold.
But Mihocek is likely to park those discussions until the end of the home-and-away season.
There are clubs in the market keen for unrestricted free agents like key forward Mihocek who would be happy to offer multi-year deals.

I dont want to ever see him in another jumper.

 

[Pistol Night]

I dont want to ever see him in another jumper.

He wont leave but old dickhead just keeps dropping little barbs at us one after the other. Do any of the older players at other clubs get this much traction in the potential trade headlines