List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[satty]

we will struggle to attract quality free agents over the next few years given our trajectory and lack of young talent coming through. Everyone can see we have to now go through a very painful transition period.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I’d rather look to the draft and trade in younger talent if we can. Propping up the current side with middling defenders seems like a waste of a spot. It that’s just me. I’d rather find a young defender and give them experience while Moore and Maynard etc are still there to guide them.

McCarthy played behind the footy against Willi in his first VFL performance. Thought it was unusual given he generally plays forward-ruck at Oakleigh. Still stick insect thin but it could be sign the club has some confidence in his future flexibility.

 

[ksardog]

if Cameron wants to go, we need to get the best key defender available at the draft, even if we sign Silvagni for next year, but somehow also get Mcarthy in after that pick. cant be getting in a first rounder just to use it on someone we could have gathered points for.
so I would opt for a future first round ( 2026 ) pick

 

[SchuPie]

My concern is that we’ve signed up too many young players on multi-year deals plus not waiting until the end of the year to have a full body of evidence as to whether veterans should go on

We must get games into younger players to equate their worth / develop

Anyway
Please draft mids mids mids
We need at least one more elite young mid, if not two, and a bit of a focus on bringing in elite mids (as we tried w Rowell) rather than HBFers

Oh - and a quality KPD

 

[captain cotch 9]

You guys should be all over Jacob Blight.
We have quite good depth for key backs.
He dominates VFL.
His only downside is his kicking is quite poor.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

You guys should be all over Jacob Blight.
We have quite good depth for key backs.
He dominates VFL.
His only downside is his kicking is quite poor.

Is he 30 years old or more. If not, we don't want him.

 

[BEEG]

Cameron can go for pick 2 and we go to the draft.

 

[thommo_legend]

Cameron can go for pick 2 and we go to the draft.

No way the eagles are that stupid, we probably get that hawks pick they have and we have to throw in something else

 

[gouki88]

No way the eagles are that stupid, we probably get that hawks pick they have and we have to throw in something else

We do not have to throw in anything else. If it’s not a pick in the 8–10 range then we should expect more coming our way

 

[BigSav36]

My concern is that we’ve signed up too many young players on multi-year deals plus not waiting until the end of the year to have a full body of evidence as to whether veterans should go on

We must get games into younger players to equate their worth / develop

Anyway
Please draft mids mids mids
We need at least one more elite young mid, if not two, and a bit of a focus on bringing in elite mids (as we tried w Rowell) rather than HBFers

Oh - and a quality KPD

I agree - we need mids. As for younger players, I worry about the list balance - I think Cochran, Ryan, Jiath, McInness all have potential - but are they all essentially competing for the same role? Does their opportunity reduce further is we sign JSOS?

 

[Exambolor]

No way the eagles are that stupid, we probably get that hawks pick they have and we have to throw in something else

They have been in the past, they essentially gave up pick 3 for Matt Owies (yes I know Baker was a part of that but the pick went to Carlton so it's mostly true)

 

[Tista7000]

Time to be aggressive with getting rid of our older players, Mitchell, WHE, Cox to start.

If Checkers doesn't want to sign his deal good luck to him finding another club to give him multiple year, West can play next season.

Trade Cameron to Eagles for the pick they have tied to Hawks, he's fallen off massively the past month plus is a 30 year old ruckman, not sure it will play out well giving him a big contract.

Increase offer for Silvangi as we desperately need some key defender depth.

Howe, Pendlebury, Sidebottom to retire end of next year.

We need to go all out on Ben King

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202cm

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1.3

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7.5

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5.6

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1.9

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3.6

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[eaglevision]

They have been in the past, they essentially gave up pick 3 for Matt Owies (yes I know Baker was a part of that but the pick went to Carlton so it's mostly true)

It was pick 3 and 4R junk picks for picks 12, 14 and Blowies. It was a shit trade but it wasn’t 3 for Blowies.

 

[ksardog]

Time to be aggressive with getting rid of our older players, Mitchell, WHE, Cox to start.

If Checkers doesn't want to sign his deal good luck to him finding another club to give him multiple year, West can play next season.

Trade Cameron to Eagles for the pick they have tied to Hawks, he's fallen off massively the past month plus is a 30 year old ruckman, not sure it will play out well giving him a big contract.

Increase offer for Silvangi as we desperately need some key defender depth.

Howe, Pendlebury, Sidebottom to retire end of next year.

We need to go all out on Ben King.

not sure he is the answer
need to find another gun mid, either draft or trade and need to find a key defender who can defend and intercept
that should be our goal

Ben King will just be sitting at FF getting a cold if we cant win the ball first then deliver it
we have West coming through , and we will be about 2-3 years off looking like a genuine threat again. time to find that future key back to build our defence around.

next 3-5 years our backline could be

Quaynor McInnes Cochrane
Ryan Silvagni? Parker

hopefully Smit can make it as a genuine key back, was showing some good signs before injury

 

[Rusty Beam]

Strangely enough I was juxtaposing our current predicament to another time we had a lot of older players on our list circa 2009-2010.

At that time we had players like O’Bree, Lockyer and Medhurst playing VFL to make way for younger players. Now we have similarly aged players disgruntled and pushing for bigger contracts.

 

[BEEG]

Sidebottom form was hot early in the year unfortunately he hasn't been great in back half.

Last year the blokes form wasn't great in the first half of the year.

Why is he a lock for another contract?

Cox, Mitchell, WHE and Sidebottom shouldn't be signed.

 

[BEEG]

Pies can't get Butters and aren't confident of Rowell in 2 years then Oliver would be a good option.

Motivated and in a new environment still only 28.

Huge upgrade on Long and Mitchell.

 

[Exambolor]

Pies can't get Butters and aren't confident of Rowell in 2 years then Oliver would be a good option.

Motivated and in a new environment still only 28.

Huge upgrade on Long and Mitchell.

Clarry’s the same, he’s slow

 

[BillyElliott]

Clarry’s the same, he’s slow

I couldn't think of anything worse than watching him bomb kicking it high to absolutely no one.

 

[JuniorB]

Pies can't get Butters and aren't confident of Rowell in 2 years then Oliver would be a good option.

Motivated and in a new environment still only 28.

Huge upgrade on Long and Mitchell.

That's a big no from me.

 

[Jedi01]

Pies can't get Butters and aren't confident of Rowell in 2 years then Oliver would be a good option.

Motivated and in a new environment still only 28.

Huge upgrade on Long and Mitchell.

Wouldn't hate it, but not sure he is a huge upgrade on them. Comes with a large salary, if Melb willing to pay a portion of that could be a go.

 

[MooreDaicos]

WOW! The negative talk about us being done before the last game has finished for the H&A season is mind boggling. First of all, we'll be in finals, second, STRATEGY!
Our approach this year has to be different than 2 years ago given the aging players.

Do you really think that Fly hasn't got Jaicos as a weapon for finals? Billy was the unplanned, but brilliant tactic Fly had for the GF.
Surprise attacks are normally very effective. Beau to come in, Bobby to come in, Billy F finding his mojo after being in the 2's and so on.

Where's the faith? Where's the hope? Oh that's right, let's just give up and get rid of ALL the old players and become the Roos. Oh and don't get JSOS because we can get better players in the draft
Hey, let's just play all the young ones and give the oldies the rest of the year off because in your eyes we're f****d, RIGHT!?
We are COLLINGWOOD or have you forgotten how we play?
A good reminder and kick up the ass to snap out of this negative crap is what you need right now.
Don't bring everyone down with your negative crap. Be optimistic, not negative.

 

[YouBeauty]

WOW! The negative talk about us being done before the last game has finished for the H&A season is mind boggling. First of all, we'll be in finals, second, STRATEGY!
Our approach this year has to be different than 2 years ago given the aging players.

Do you really think that Fly hasn't got Jaicos as a weapon for finals? Billy was the unplanned, but brilliant tactic Fly had for the GF.
Surprise attacks are normally very effective. Beau to come in, Bobby to come in, Billy F finding his mojo after being in the 2's and so on.

Where's the faith? Where's the hope? Oh that's right, let's just give up and get rid of ALL the old players and become the Roos. Oh and don't get JSOS because we can get better players in the draft
Hey, let's just play all the young ones and give the oldies the rest of the year off because in your eyes we're f****d, RIGHT!?
We are COLLINGWOOD or have you forgotten how we play?
A good reminder and kick up the ass to snap out of this negative crap is what you need right now.
Don't bring everyone down with your negative crap. Be optimistic, not negative.

Says the bloke with Tassie as his team.
No one will take anything you said seriously if you can't be realistic about where we are at. This is just blind optimism bs.

 

[MooreDaicos]

Says the bloke with Tassie as his team.
No one will take anything you said seriously if you can't be realistic about where we are at. This is just blind optimism bs.

One, I'm not a bloke.
Two, of course I'll throw support around my state team.
And NO, it's called faith and hope.
Thinking that you know what my other thoughts are, tells me all I need to know about you.

 

[Scodog10]

Pies can't get Butters and aren't confident of Rowell in 2 years then Oliver would be a good option.

Motivated and in a new environment still only 28.

Huge upgrade on Long and Mitchell.

Oliver? The guy who’s owed $1.4m odd next year and couldn’t kick a behind from 30 out? I don’t have the answer, but I sure as shit know it isn’t a guy 3 years past his prime who has serious issues outside of footy.