List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

[giantroo]

Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

23

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[koshari]

Personal I think that’s too tall back there.
Archer is essentially Dane Rampe in my eyes, he and McDonald will play on the 3rd talls / medium types. No need for Logue.
Comben must increase his 1on1 defensive work again, and then McKercher as our only ‘distributor and nothing else’ type. Goater (if he gets on the park) and Hardeman are gonna have to be do-it-all types with line breaking, intercepting and defending (I believe they can). Whitlock is an interesting piece and probably eventually takes over from McDonald in my eyes as an interceptor/3rd tall defender with the potential to become the CHB if he packs on size in a few years. W Dawson as the gorilla back there. I am quietly optimistic on them as a group long term but the timeline is a bit off. In 2 years maybe that is an elite group with a few additions, especially a genuine small defender with neat skills and some depth in the line-breaking department. Pink I think provides solid depth as a 2nd tall for a bit of time.

good summary.

 

[Passmore]

Something going on with Darcy Wilson?

 

[Merlin007]

Can someone refresh my memory - assuming the 2 extra rookie spots are removed, how many do we have to move on to make room for (say) 3 draftees and a trade and/or DFA (so a hypothetical total of 4 incoming)?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Can someone refresh my memory - assuming the 2 extra rookie spots are removed, how many do we have to move on to make room for (say) 3 draftees and a trade and/or DFA (so a hypothetical total of 4 incoming)?

3ND (but that can include rookie upgrades eg upgrade finnbar)
and then would need to cull for any extra player brought in via trade
and 2 rookies need to make way anyway for LTI also just to get back to net 0

and i still dont see how they could justify taking away the extra spots when we are still bottom 4, if anything we should be getting even more

so assuming we do keep the 2 rookie spots maybe 3-4 off senior list, 2-3 off rookie list

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I'm disappointed that we haven't found a good use for Ford. He has a lot of ability.

He has been on Clarkson’s shitlist for over 18 months. For whatever reason he really doesn’t like him.

 

[speedy]

Fair to expect more of Wardlaw and Duursma next year, but expecting Whitlock to get 20 touches at AFL level is unrealistic.

I said first step to becoming that. Like cementing his spot in the seniors like COS has this year.

 

[shinboner magic]

Is de konning a FA or do the aints have to trade for him

 

[hoffseason gains 01]

Is de konning a FA or do the aints have to trade for him

FA

 

[Bowski]

People whinging about Rawlings, but if you're looking for the worst North trade ever, try Daniel McConnell - picks 13 and 29 for four games.

Ol' Bargearse himself. What a time to be alive.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Is de konning a FA or do the aints have to trade for him

FA but if blues aren’t happy just getting one first rounder they can force a trade to try get more

 

[Passmore]

People whinging about Rawlings, but if you're looking for the worst North trade ever, try Daniel McConnell - picks 13 and 29 for four games.

North Melbourne and shit trades. Twenty odd years and going strong....

 

[Heaps of fun]

On another note - we weren't the only ones but missing out of NWM hurts. He is an absolute superstar and could easily be the best player in the comp in 2-3 years. Even in Lyon's defensive and very structured side he's standing out big time.

It's a shame we didn't draft every good player from the last ten drafts.

 

[Arthur Cloke]

Letting Mason Wood

32

Mason Wood

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.3

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

2.7

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

go was a dagger to the heart. But sometimes you really don't know what you've got til you've lost it. I remember doing a tour of The Huddle years ago and seeing multiple 10kg bags of flour in a store-room. It wasn't until years later that you find out what that's actually being used for. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined the fallout that would follow.
But other than Wood, every other player you guys have let go has done bugger all. I mean we even gave Mahony a year. Ripping fella. Loves his fly-fishing & kite-surfing.

 

[Chip Scab1]

The seven delistings/departures i currently have are:

Eddie Ford
Miller Bergman
Will Phillips (Trade, door ajar for him to stay)
Cooper Trembath
Brynn Teakle (May be substituted for CCJ now)
Darcy Tucker
Kallan Dawson

CCJ
Tucker
KDawson
Ford
Bergman (Sorry Pal)

There's your 5 to bring in probably 3?

 

[HBFlanker]

With what though?

Honestly if Duursma does end up wanting out he shouldn't dictate which club - Wilson + a decent pick would be a good deal imo.

It would be Duursma + a pick, unfortunately.

 

[koshari]

I'm disappointed that we haven't found a good use for Ford. He has a lot of ability.

he doesnt really, he is just another in a sea of vanilla performers, has a bit of ability but continually lets himself down with finishing, rich mans curtis taylor. but with a more likable personality.

 

[HBFlanker]

CCJ
Tucker
KDawson
Ford
Bergman (Sorry Pal)

There's your 5 to bring in probably 3?

If we only delist 5 we are missing an opportunity to get better.

Means we cant bring in any free agents of any kind or any rookies.

 

[Chip Scab1]

If we only delist 5 we are missing an opportunity to get better.

Means we cant bring in any free agents of any kind or any rookies.

Given the quality of those you mention already on our list, I say good.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Agreed, but you would hope to get more bone fide stars from all the top 5 picks we’ve had since 2020

Sure we would want more to show for it, but some of it is also young.
How long did it take Rayner or Zac Bailey to really show something? 6 plus years? It can take some time.
We need to get better at finding and developing elite talent in the 20's, 30's or 40's and stop the heavy reliance on thinking top 5 picks will get us out of the hole we're in.
No doubt you're more likely to find your stars with high end picks, but recently there's been some good talent in the later part of the top 10 and/or teens.

 

[chubbspeterson]

The media narrative is ‘if’ Draper leaves (the suggestion being it’s more not less likely) that Essendon might get another Top 10 pick as compo.

Given the new CBA and Salary Cap and the need for his wage to be in the top 5%, that’s around $1M a year to trigger said first round pick.

Fair enough. Wait and see what contract he gets offered. Could understand him getting more to head home, but quite a risk with his injury history if it gets around that mark.

 

[Chip Scab1]

It would be Duursma + a pick, unfortunately.

You are close to going on ignore, I've never seen such nonsense come out of North supporters mouth.

It won't, it can't, use of definitive language doesn't work (unless you actually know) which you can't.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Starcevich would be great. He would have a panic attack seeing our standards compared to where he has come from.

True. 25 years old is a good age bracket. Concussion history a bit of a concern. But a premiership player.
Calm ball user down back or big body in the middle. If not him, somebody like that would be great.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Check out the video on baseline footy of Baxter Sruk.
Got the medal for BOG in the u16's carnival on his 16th birthday.
His build & skills leave many of listed players in the dust (not that they'd care as long as they're getting paid).

 

[Passmore]

CCJ
Tucker
KDawson
Ford
Bergman (Sorry Pal)

There's your 5 to bring in probably 3?

We'll need to cut deeper than that given we're carrying extras on LTI and rookies.

 

[HoldingThe Ball]

Howdy

I saw a few of our blokes thrown around in this thread, and I think you're on the money with some.

When we got Barrass and Battle we pretty much shut the door on a few of our players careers at Hawthorn.

Barrass, Battle, Sicily, Scrimshaw, Impey, Amon, Hardwick (and young Mraz and McCabe waiting in the wings) are settled and means some guys have a choice - stay at Box Hill and fight for a spot or move.

Jai Serong (WCE apparently have spoken to him)

Changkuoth Jiath​

Sam Frost (Sydney & Collingwood have spoken to him)​

James Blanck

Seamus Mitchell

These guys, you'd think would be open to a conversation about a fresh start at least.

In the Ruck, Ramsden has gone past Ned Reeves - he's worth asking the question to plus midfielders Henry Hustwaite, Finn Maginness - and maybe even James Worpel as our offer to him was........unconvincing to say the least.

We really are after an A grader like Butters or Reid, so Worpel may be open to moving on (Geelong have spoken to him apparently)

I want to be really clear - in a perfect world, we'd want to keep most of these guys but they are at the age where, if they want a career, then the grass maybe greener elsewhere.

The main thing is - these are not VFL players. These are guys who are 100% AFL quality, but are just stuck behind guys at Hawthorn who simply are better than them.

All of them would give great service to their new clubs.

As an aside - what's happened to Eddie Ford? I really really rated the guy, but can't get a game - what's that all about? Attitude? Fitness?

Anyway - hopefully you may find some of this of interest. Good luck for the rest of the season.