List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

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Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[roos_fanatic08]

We need a KPD that has enough confidence in his own game to be able to instruct others to maintain the structure. He'd need to swallow the ego (like Darling and Parker have) to accept he's there to teach, not win, but he could do that - much more so than May you'd think after the videos of May this week. He'd be a great edition. He doesn't play in a premiership but he's the guy the backline call first after the win.

He'd be a get but will cost us.

That’s the thing though. Lever isn’t a KPD despite his height, he needs to play loose to have any sort of impact and we already have 3 blokes in the defence who can’t defend for shit (Comben, Kerch & Daniel).

He is also contracted and going to cost us a stupid amount of draft capital that we really can’t afford to lose (due to Rawlings F-Ups last year).

Lever (like May) also gives up stacks of 50m penalties with his carrying on/tantrums at umpires. That’s the last thing we need from a so called “leader”.

I’m adamant that this is a terrible idea.

We’d be far better off going after a big bodied Key defender who CAN ACTUALLY DEFEND.

 

[scottywiper]

That’s the thing though. Lever isn’t a KPD despite his height, he needs to play loose to have any sort of impact and we already have 3 blokes in the defence who can’t defend for shit (Comben, Kerch & Daniel).

He is also contracted and going to cost us a stupid amount of draft capital that we really can’t afford to lose (due to Rawlings F-Ups last year).

Lever (like May) also gives up stacks of 50m penalties with his carrying on/tantrums at umpires. That’s the last thing we need from a so called “leader”.

I’m adamant that this is a terrible idea.

We’d be far better off going after a big bodied Key defender who CAN ACTUALLY DEFEND.

Ben McKay?

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

Walk him to the PSD

 

[jay317]

Ben McKay?

Funny that he's the ideal age and complement to Comben

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Ben McKay?

Yuck. Another interceptor that couldn’t play one on one.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Funny that he's the ideal age and complement to Comben

He'd be the worst possible player to put next to Comben. They're both interceptors that are poor 1v1 and ball in hand McKay makes Comben look like Andrew McLeod.

 

[Its a Process]

Archer (L, I) Pink (L, I) Lever (I, R)
Hardeman (R) Comben (I) FOS (R, L)

7th Defender:McDonald (L, I)

We would still be massively vulnerable to the monsters, but it at least seems cohesive, with a decent mix of Lockdown (L), Intercept (I) and rebound (R) types.

It’s a better defence than what we fielded this year, but it probably isn’t worth what we pay in terms of picks, money and the negative effect of not playing Dawson and Whitlock in there.

Surely if Dawson or Whitlock are going well enough they push Pink out. I’d still be playing Kerch behind the ball as well - maybe LMac gets squeezed.

 

[Its a Process]

That’s the thing though. Lever isn’t a KPD despite his height, he needs to play loose to have any sort of impact and we already have 3 blokes in the defence who can’t defend for shit (Comben, Kerch & Daniel).

He is also contracted and going to cost us a stupid amount of draft capital that we really can’t afford to lose (due to Rawlings F-Ups last year).

Lever (like May) also gives up stacks of 50m penalties with his carrying on/tantrums at umpires. That’s the last thing we need from a so called “leader”.

I’m adamant that this is a terrible idea.

We’d be far better off going after a big bodied Key defender who CAN ACTUALLY DEFEND.

Could that be Will Dawson with another pre-season under the belt?

 

[hilly]

Really? - most small clubs like Saints, Dogs, Dees seem to be able to do it ok.

I think the words you are looking for ....attracting players to North is difficult....and you would be right about that.

You have to understand that there are posters who prefer to keep Rawling above team performance.

 

[krakouers]

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Hey, you don’t have to agree with the man on his policies, but you have to agree the man is more appealing in royal blue and white

 

[Tas]

We need a KPD that has enough confidence in his own game to be able to instruct others to maintain the structure. He'd need to swallow the ego (like Darling and Parker have) to accept he's there to teach, not win, but he could do that - much more so than May you'd think after the videos of May this week. He'd be a great edition. He doesn't play in a premiership but he's the guy the backline call first after the win.

He'd be a get but will cost us.

You want a finger pointer? I guess we can always get an aircraft marshaller.

It is hard to find good KPP, you have to be there at the right time and place, they don't just magically appear because we have dropped the ball in recruitment and development.

At the end of the day, our backline will compete a lot better if there is a lot more pressure up the ground. It just takes a long time for players to get used to how other players play around them. We will see Parker, Daniels and Darling improve next year but it is sunk cost development, because we are going to invest time and resources on players that wont be around. We eventually have to do this with someone else so we get no long-term benefit from these stop gap measures.

We need a KPP that is 27 or 28 and is going to be a free agent, someone that is good, and pay a premium for someone that is quality. You have to do that homework a year+ before they enter their free agency year. It doesn't seem we do that because we haven't been linked with players like that in the last few years. We have just picked up some mediocre players or players like Darling and Parker that are very near the end of their careers.

 

[jay317]

He'd be the worst possible player to put next to Comben. They're both interceptors that are poor 1v1 and ball in hand McKay makes Comben look like Andrew McLeod.

Some of you may have some PTSD from McKay's last year but he is 100x times better 1v1 than Comben

 

[Masked Avenger]

Could that be Will Dawson with another pre-season under the belt?

It should be. A lump of a lad - and that's putting it mildly. He's a First round pick and we've invested in him. Plenty to learn but he showed some good signs particularly against a hot Darcy. Neale got hold of him but that happens in your early career.

I like the ring of Comben Dawson and Matlock with Pink as depth or a fill in the short term..

 

[Karanicolas]

Surely if Dawson or Whitlock are going well enough they push Pink out. I’d still be playing Kerch behind the ball as well - maybe LMac gets squeezed.

Would prefer Whitlock to play forward and replace Darling in 1-2 years.

 

[zoomba23]

Some of you may have some PTSD from McKay's last year but he is 100x times better 1v1 than Comben

He had a reasonable year this year in that area. 6/35 contests lost. But his 2023-2024 was patchy at absolute best. I see them as fairly similar

 

[Frank Thring]

Yeah, sure bring in more average players to replace the average players we already have/had.

If you told me Wilkie, J. Buckley, Vlaustin were gettable, then I could get a little excited.

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

Just play Dawson Comben and Matlock. It might mean we lose every game but in the long term it will pay off. We wasted this year playing Logue and Pink. We can’t afford to that again.

 

[Devski]

Even if Dawson isn’t physically developed enough next year to play that lock down role, he’s what? One year two at worst from being there?

I’d rather just get games in to him even if he does get toweled up at times.

He’s already shown he’s going to be a bit of a monster.

The aim should be to put game time in to people who will drive the next flag.

 

[SimpinForSimpkin]

I think something's been lost in translation.

Have it on good authority that Jake Lever, a noted train enthusiast, was spotted at the Sneak Peek Opening for Arden Station today, and had no interest in proceedings at our club. According to eyewitness accounts, he was greatly keen on the free nibbles, including falafel from Agraba Lebanese Mezze on Errol St, and gruel from the State Government. Was overheard lamenting the fact that North Melbourne station is in fact in West Melbourne, allegedly calling it a '****ing disgrace.'

He could not be contacted for further comment, as he was fidget-spinning off down the road by the time the reporters got wind of his inflammatory words

Being a train enthusiast explains his moustache.

Was he about to tie some damsels to the tracks?

 

[JGreezy]

Pink cops it around here but I think that he's fine. He goes well enough. A couple of players got hold of him but he's a 31 game key defender and even the best get beaten, sometimes.

Comben can finally lock in on just being a defender for the first time, so hopefully he can improve his one-on-one technique.

The issue has been the structure, both the plan and the execution. Along with the lack of athletic mid-sized defenders and physically impactful HBFs, wings and midfielders. Mid-sized defenders like Archer are very underrated in modern defensive structures.

Too often we zone up and there'll be a triangle of Powell, Stephens and Daniel (or similar). A random bloke from the crowd could probably out mark those three in a 3 on 1. You can have a couple of players like that but there's a tipping point where you end up with them near each other too frequently. We have about 10 of them on the ground at any one time.

 

[amaz199]

Look, I get the Lever interest. Experienced player and would suit the backline structures we go with.

Comben and Pink, despite their individual contributions, need support and we're desperately looking to get our intercepting game up to scratch. It's something that we've struggled with since we've always been a team that plays 1v1 and occasionally rolls into a containment zone. It's old fashioned and it means good teams will put a number on us.

If Lever comes, that gives Comben some time to get his game up to scratch and Pink can lockdown on his opponent. Same as Logue although he does have the ability to intercept as well.

Lever relies on pressure up the ground though so if he gets caught one out, then we're gonna see 100+ scores kicked on us regardless.

 

[the big lebowski]

One of the biggest issues with our backline is that we play a setup designed to leave your man and impact a contest further up the ground. This usually has us playing 10m infront.

Be it Adelaide’s first goal from an out the back Keays. We kick a point, Adelaide kick 60 metres to an unmarked walker.

Or their last goal with walker running into an open goal from being unmarked.

Or any of Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

32

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

’s 10 goals.

We need to adjust how we defend desperately regardless of personnel

 

[North1411]

Pink cops it around here but I think that he's fine. He goes well enough. A couple of players got hold of him but he's a 31 game key defender and even the best get beaten, sometimes.

Comben can finally lock in on just being a defender for the first time, so hopefully he can improve his one-on-one technique.

The issue has been the structure, both the plan and the execution. Along with the lack of athletic mid-sized defenders and physically impactful HBFs, wings and midfielders. Mid-sized defenders like Archer are very underrated in modern defensive structures.

Too often we zone up and there'll be a triangle of Powell, Stephens and Daniel (or similar). A random bloke from the crowd could probably out mark those three in a 3 on 1. You can have a couple of players like that but there's a tipping point where you end up with them near each other too frequently. We have about 10 of them on the ground at any one time.

Not just that, we set up wrong, with people in the wrong position, either too deep or shallow and then they make the wrong decision, or don't impact the contest enough and then smart players like Cameron take full advantage.

The two most prominent protagonist were Corr and Logue. The two were meant to be the best at it

 

[Shinboner1]

Can’t quite put my finger on it but it’s almost as if attracting players to small clubs is difficult

Small or big doesn't matter.
Its cause we're shit.

 

[Mr north man]

Walk him to the PSD

Why would the NMFC do a thing like that it would show something that hasn’t been seen around the NMFC for some time.
Intelligence .
That would upset Rawlings as he is always looking forward to drop a 5 year contract at 950k on someone well past their best.