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List Mgmt. 2026 Trade/Contract Discussion

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• Liam Baker (27/1/98)
• Jake Waterman (6/5/98)
• Brandon Starcevich (24/7/99)
• Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01)
• Liam Duggan (11/12/96)
• Jack Graham (25/2/98)
• Tylar Young (5/9/98)
• Tom McCarthy (12/7/00)
• Brady Hough (5/3/03)
• Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04)
• Harley Reid (17/4/05)
• Bo Allan (16/02/06)
• Jobe Shanahan (2/8/06)
• Josh Lindsay (7/4/07)
• Willem Duursma (21/6/07)
• Cooper Duff-Tytler (22/8/07)
• Elliot Yeo (1/10/93)
• Tim Kelly (26/7/94)
• Matt Owies (19/3/97)
• Harry Edwards (1/10/00)
• Deven Robertson (30/6/01)
• Finn Macrae (13/3/02)
• Sandy Brock (14/12/02)
• Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04)
• Archer Reid (19/9/05)
• Hamish Davis (2/5/06)
• Tom Gross (15/9/06)
• Lucca Grego (15/9/06)
• Sam Allen (13/1/07)
• Tylah Williams (22/2/07)
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92)
• Tom Cole (28/5/97)
• Matt Flynn (13/9/97)
• Bailey Williams (17/4/00)
• Milan Murdock (30/6/00)
• Harry Schoenberg (21/2/01)
• Tyler Brockman (22/11/02)
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03)
• Jack Williams (1/12/03)
• Harry Barnett (22/1/04)
• Elijah Hewett (27/5/04)
• Noah Long (23/8/04)
• Ryan Maric (6/9/04)
• Clay Hall (12/5/05)
• Harvey Johnston (18/8/05)
• Jake Miles-Wrency (??/??/05)
• Jacob Newton (20/3/06)
• Malakai Champion (17/5/06)
• Fred Rodriguez (10/7/07)
 
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Mighty Eagles said:
Bc if Harley seeks a trade within the next few years, we’re light on for midfielders - especially very good ones.
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He very well could go. But if the team develops, it’s a perfect age profile of a side for him, he’ll be the leader of the pack and face of one of the biggest clubs whilst being the poster boy for WA’s team (sorry dockers fans it’s true). Who is to know how some of his suitors (last year or prior) may look in a couple years time compared to us.

I feel better about the prospects of him staying beyond his current contract better than any other point of his time here. Kid’s got some character hanging around and wanting to stay on after the amount of sides that would’ve been in his ear after what will/hopefully/should be the worst record of a side he plays for in his career. Plenty would’ve given in.
 
YeoGabbaGabba said:
He very well could go. But if the team develops, it’s a perfect age profile of a side for him, he’ll be the leader of the pack and face of one of the biggest clubs whilst being the poster boy for WA’s team (sorry dockers fans it’s true). Who is to know how some of his suitors (last year or prior) may look in a couple years time compared to us.

I feel better about the prospects of him staying beyond his current contract better than any other point of his time here. Kid’s got some character hanging around and wanting to stay on after the amount of sides that would’ve been in his ear after what will/hopefully/should be the worst record of a side he plays for in his career. Plenty would’ve given in.
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Harley isn’t going anywhere, he’ll sign a 6-10 year deal at the end of 2028.
 
TerryFilk said:
Harley isn’t going anywhere, he’ll sign a 6-10 year deal at the end of 2028.
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As long as he’s locked in for that on schedule every 12 year premiership in 2030 - sounds good to me 😍
 
2 wins over fellow cellar dwellers does not make a rebuild (been great, don’t get me wrong) unless you want to be the Bombers/roos.

Yeo and TK both not around in several years.

So still need to add an A grade small fwd, 2 x A grade mids, 2 x B grade mids, a KPD and another ruckman.

Hewitt might fill one of the B grade mid requirements if he can stay on the park, smalls Fwds Tylah ?, Champion?

Going to need to be some very astute drafting and trading in the next 2 years.
 
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Tugga27 said:
3 million for Zac Butters, or anyone for that matter is ludicrous.
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Imagine the sooking from around the league though, if Brisbane sook like they have at the Saints paying big for players imagine if Butters has 3mil/year lmao

Could be worth it
 
ghostbat12 said:
thats what I am saying...sticking point could be who wears no. 9.

steady on about premiership dates, we won two games.
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We won 2 games so far

The difference it makes, swapping our 23rd player for one of the top few players in the league isnt nothing.

We might still be waiting for CDT to be our number 1 ruckman to make a grand final but it puts us firmly in top 6 areas by 2028
 
garlic munchers said:
2 wins over fellow cellar dwellers does not make a rebuild (been great, don’t get me wrong) unless you want to be the Bombers/roos.

Yeo and TK both not around in several years.

So still need to add an A grade small fwd, 2 x A grade mids, 2 x B grade mids, a KPF and another ruckman.

Hewitt might fill one of the B grade mid requirements if he can stay on the park, smalls Fwds Tylah ?, Champion?

Going to need to be some very astute drafting and trading in the next 2 years.
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1) Spot on

2) Agreed

3) No. In my view we need 2 x premium inside mids and 2 x key defenders, at least one of them A Grade. I think our existing small forwards will fill that void as will CDT in the ruck role. We absolutely do not need another key forward. We’ve got an oversupply of them on the list.

4) I think Hewett has a high ceiling. Just needs to get an extended run at it.

5) Each club, annually, needs astute list management. The next two years are no exception.
 
Mighty Eagles said:
1) Spot on

2) Agreed

3) No. In my view we need 2 x premium inside mids and 2 x key defenders, at least one of them A Grade. I think our existing small forwards will fill that void as will CDT in the ruck role. We absolutely do not need another key forward. We’ve got an oversupply of them on the list.

4) I think Hewett has a high ceiling. Just needs to get an extended run at it.

5) Each club, annually, needs astute list management. The next two years are no exception.
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Meant KPD
 
When people say we need to "add a couple A-grade mids" or "add an a-grade small forward" it doesnt really distinguish between whether they think we need to go out and draft trade for them or we need to just find them

We could have our small forwards completely sorted with what we have plus McGlade/any other NGAs
We could have our midfield sorted with Allen, Duursma, Allan and Gross added to Harley/Dev/Hewett and maybe Warner
We could have our KPDs sorted with Ginbey, Young and Shanahan

"Add" sounds like you have no faith in what we have on the list
 
garlic munchers said:
2 wins over fellow cellar dwellers does not make a rebuild (been great, don’t get me wrong) unless you want to be the Bombers/roos.

Yeo and TK both not around in several years.

So still need to add an A grade small fwd, 2 x A grade mids, 2 x B grade mids, a KPD and another ruckman.
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??

We have a bunch of young unproven small forwards, TWilliams was decently rated, Murdock looked elite so far, Newton is promising, Champion has played ok, we have more NGAs to come.
Do not need to go out and draft/trade for an elite small forward with any urgency at all.

Most clubs have 2-3 A-grade mids, assuming Harley and Duursma make it(pretty confident), thats maybe 1 more which could be Warner, could be our first pick this year. You want 2 B-grade mids on top of that? You mean you dont think the other mids we have like Hewett/Gross/Allen/Allan/Dev/Graham/Hall will be enough to be the 4/5/6th mids in the side? How many A and B grade mids do you think other clubs have?
Dude.

A KPD yes- could be Shanahan

Another ruckman? why? CDT is it, he is him. AReid to backup as ruck/fwd. If you mean we need to find a WAFL ruckman who can fill in when CDT is injured then yeah for sure

garlic munchers said:
Hewitt might fill one of the B grade mid requirements if he can stay on the park, smalls Fwds Tylah ?, Champion?

Going to need to be some very astute drafting and trading in the next 2 years.
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We need a good prospect KPD, probably 1 more good mid with our first pick, a ruck/fwd to replace JWilliams/BWilliams, a ruckman with a late/rookie pick as depth/project player, maybe another KPD project player, then just top up all over the ground taking best available
 
The primary concern moving forward is the salary cap.

Does Willem expect the 2m paycheck his fellow number 1 pick received? Surely not but if you were his agent, you’d be at least mentioning it.

Jobe (& his agent) will expect a massive payday if his trajectory keeps.

Archer being chased by cashed up Tasmanians.

Harley’s taking 20% of the cap next year and I’ll give everyone a tip, his agent will expect his pay to go up, certainly not down for his next contract.

If and when we chase Warner he’ll be after, and getting 1.4 - 1.5m

CDT is one I think we could get in early and sign for a long deal without too much hassle.

WC are hopefully front loading contracts this and next year to put us on the front foot. IMO you can see the high ceilings of Willem and CDT, and like in the NFL, the earlier you sign the players, the cheaper and better value they become for your club.

There are some examples of this in the AFL now, namely Nick Daicos. Pies did absurdly well to sign him on what was one of the largest deals in the game at that time
 
Art OF war said:
Archer being chased by cashed up Tasmanians.

Harley’s taking 20% of the cap next year and I’ll give everyone a tip, his agent will expect his pay to go up, certainly not down for his next contract.
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A host of players are at risk of being chased by TD19.

Harley is not taking up 20% of our cap next year. He’s not even taking up 15%.
 

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I don't think we need to make anyone a KPD to bring Walter in as he just pushes Flynn out.

Archer and CDT rucks
Waterman, Shanahan, Walter KPFs

That's the same amount of rucks/forwards we are playing now.

We are short on KPDs however this is a separate issue that needs fixing.
 
squashface said:
I don't think we need to make anyone a KPD to bring Walter in as he just pushes Flynn out.

Archer and CDT rucks
Waterman, Shanahan, Walter KPFs

That's the same amount of rucks/forwards we are playing now.

We are short on KPDs however this is a separate issue that needs fixing.
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Flynn to FB?
 
On KPD, if Edwards is unfortunately done. We have Young, Bazzo, Brock and Ginbey.

Bazzo and Brock probably depth, although Brock pretty quality depth and will turn 24 this year, 198cm, add a bit more size and strength and with his athleticism and left foot could turn into somebody of quality. Bazzo probably more on the sceptical end, projecting as a third tall.

Ideally Edwards is okay, and Young settles, thought Young intercepted and defended alright on the weekend, hopefully he can build into a solid key back.

Ginbey as a versatile key defender playing taller and smaller, and offering some rebound.

Def need to draft a KPD with our second / top 5 bid compo pick thing - Xavier Ladbrook, Tyson Bradley or Tate Hodgson

No elite key backs, but not absolutely dire. But if Edwards is done, and Bazzo is delisted. We'd probably also want to trade / get in through F/A this year, some options could be

ADL: Jordon Butts - 195cm (F/A) - Vic pull
GC: Caleb Graham - 194cm (OOC)
BL - ZZ - 196cm (OOC)
 
stallon said:
When people say we need to "add a couple A-grade mids" or "add an a-grade small forward" it doesnt really distinguish between whether they think we need to go out and draft trade for them or we need to just find them

We could have our small forwards completely sorted with what we have plus McGlade/any other NGAs
We could have our midfield sorted with Allen, Duursma, Allan and Gross added to Harley/Dev/Hewett and maybe Warner
We could have our KPDs sorted with Ginbey, Young and Shanahan

"Add" sounds like you have no faith in what we have on the list
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So saying we need to add a number of seriously good players to be a contender = no faith in current list????

I would have thought the 'adding' bit was a given Yeo's and TK ages.

And then you keep saying "could", so where's your 'faith'?

To clarify in regards to your query, if we find what we need in the draft then happy days and if not then we attempt to trade them (another given?) .... otherwise, not sure how we "just find them".

If you know about a 3rd avenue to getting players, please let the club know ASAP (but on the quiet).

I like what we have on our young list, but beat Roos by 17pts on home deck, Port by 2 pts away and smacked by GC away.

Time to pull those panties back up, least you be a Bombers fan from the start of last year.
 
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stallon said:
To be fair, do you see Grego or Maric pushing past our current mids/wings(mostly highish picks now/after this years draft) or our half forwards?
I could see Grego being a pressure or defensive half forward but Maric I cant see playing anywhere, hes already been tried in fwd wing and defence

I think theyre ok as depth in their current roles, they ensure we have depth that should be able to fill a role while we focus our draft/trade strategy entirely elsewhere

Id be moving Allan or Baker out of defence before I bothered much with moving Grego or Maric tbh
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I think Maric was ok as a fwd and as a 3rd tall forward. The young talls will get tired as the season goes on. I would love him delivering the ball in to the forward line. Doesn’t play in front of what we have atm but form and being young, they will need a rest at some stage. Wing is always an option again. Werm CBAs will increase during the year and even more so next year imo so one wing will be up for grabs. Dewar, Allan and likely Allen all in the queue as well.

Grego I loved as a mid in the WAFL last year but very suited down back imo. Dont really have the defence mid depth yet imo so could a spot there long term.

I do think while different players, one should be looked at for a different position and more likely Maric unless he can put on some size and be more physical.
 
plays tall 1 said:
We like recruiting Richmond players. West Australian Ben Miller’s apparently an unrestricted free agent this year. He turns 27 in August. Could be a useful stop-gap while we try to develop a younger KPD, especially if Harry Edwards can’t shake the concussion issues.

According to his AFL profile his one on one record rivalled the best in the competition last year.
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Already extend this year I believe at Tigerland for a couple of years.
 

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stallon said:
When people say we need to "add a couple A-grade mids" or "add an a-grade small forward" it doesnt really distinguish between whether they think we need to go out and draft trade for them or we need to just find them

We could have our small forwards completely sorted with what we have plus McGlade/any other NGAs
We could have our midfield sorted with Allen, Duursma, Allan and Gross added to Harley/Dev/Hewett and maybe Warner
We could have our KPDs sorted with Ginbey, Young and Shanahan

"Add" sounds like you have no faith in what we have on the list
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Which is fair, you don’t just sit in your hands and wait for these player to develop and maybe be at afl level.

There are different ways to build a list at the same time
 
FKASC said:
Still reckon Dewar should be played as a small forward. Reckon he’d add more than Youton is currently
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Newton is in and under, tackles and chases.

Dewar is outside and doesnt add near as much pressure.

Our future best forward set up IMO.

Champion Waterman CDT
T Williams Shanahan Baker

Bench A Reid and Murdock

Emg Newton
 
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