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Spoiler: Contracted to 2029 (4)

• Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

28

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

(27/1/98)
• Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

27

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

(6/5/98)
• Brandon Starcevich

4

Brandon Starcevich

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.2

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

185.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

187.9

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

181.2

3star

(24/7/99)
• Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01)

Spoiler: Contracted to 2028 (12)

• Liam Duggan

14

Liam Duggan

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

283.7

4star

D

16.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

283.7

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

(11/12/96)
• Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

(25/2/98)
• Tylar Young (5/9/98)
• Tom McCarthy (12/7/00)
• Brady Hough (5/3/03)
• Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04)
• Harley Reid (17/4/05)
• Bo Allan (16/02/06)
• Jobe Shanahan (2/8/06)
• Josh Lindsay (7/4/07)
• Willem Duursma (21/6/07)
• Cooper Duff-Tytler (22/8/07)

Spoiler: Contracted to 2027 (14)

• Elliot Yeo

6

Elliot Yeo

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.5

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

18.9

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

5.8

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

3star

CL

1.4

4star

(1/10/93)
• Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

(26/7/94)
• Matt Owies (19/3/97)
• Harry Edwards (1/10/00)
• Deven Robertson

40

Deven Robertson

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

(30/6/01)
• Finn Macrae (13/3/02)
• Sandy Brock (14/12/02)
• Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04)
• Archer Reid (19/9/05)
• Hamish Davis (2/5/06)
• Tom Gross (15/9/06)
• Lucca Grego (15/9/06)
• Sam Allen (13/1/07)
• Tylah Williams (22/2/07)

Spoiler: Contracted to 2026 (19)

• Jamie Cripps

15

Jamie Cripps

Age

34

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.9

5star

G

1.3

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

6.4

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

(23/4/92)
• Tom Cole

28

Tom Cole

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

110.3

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

110.3

2star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

(28/5/97)
• Matt Flynn (13/9/97)
• Bailey Williams (17/4/00)
• Milan Murdock (30/6/00)
• Harry Schoenberg (21/2/01)
• Tyler Brockman (22/11/02)
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03)
• Jack Williams (1/12/03)
• Harry Barnett (22/1/04)
• Elijah Hewett (27/5/04)
• Noah Long (23/8/04)
• Ryan Maric (6/9/04)
• Clay Hall (12/5/05)
• Harvey Johnston (18/8/05)
• Jake Miles-Wrency (??/??/05)
• Jacob Newton (20/3/06)
• Malakai Champion (17/5/06)
• Fred Rodriguez (10/7/07)

 

[RanaNaved]

Bo Allan wasn’t expected to get to the Eagles when we did this tradez

North had Sheezel as their number 1 so not sure they still do the trade if they ain’t getting Shezzel. Wardlaw more likely would’ve been left for the Eagles or who know Tsatas or Cadman most likely.

A lot of unknowns and assumptions really without any trusted inside sources.

I think we were most strongly linked to Cadman

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Yep, it's hard to keep up with all this shit these days. Cadman was apparently our man iirc

Taking a key forward at pick 2 would have gone down well!

 

[Elite Pete]

I think we were most strongly linked to Cadman

Yep remembered that while typing and we likely do a similar trade with GWS

 

[twce13]

Move on ppl, so much whining about past offseason moves. Get over it.

 

[dinnaz]

We wouldn’t have got Sheezel, I’ve said this before. If we don’t do that trade, North hang on to pick 1 and take Sheezel (ahead of Cadman and Wardlaw).

Then we take Cadman, easy win.

 

[Elite Pete]

Move on ppl, so much whining about past offseason moves. Get over it.

To be fair the List Boss who made these moves is still in their position so it’s all relevant. Even if it’s still unknown if it’s a total win/loss ect.

That’s like saying to complain about a current coach or player doing the wrong thing.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

I haven't really been following, but are we expected to sign a replacement for Long or just keep that vacancy until the mid-season draft?

 

[Elite Pete]

I haven't really been following, but are we expected to sign a replacement for Long or just keep that vacancy until the mid-season draft?

Nothing reported at all and no sightings at training yesterday.

 

[RanaNaved]

I haven't really been following, but are we expected to sign a replacement for Long or just keep that vacancy until the mid-season draft?

Just my opinion, but I think they'll leave it open for the MSD

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Then we take Cadman, easy win.

Pretty happy with Ginbey tbh, and then anything we get out of Hewett is a bonus.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Just my opinion, but I think they'll leave it open for the MSD

That's my inclination as well. Granted there's every chance that someone else might be down for the year by the MSD, but having an early pick in the MSD is pretty valuable and unless there's an uncontracted player that they're particularly enamoured with at the moment, I'd prefer to just keep vacancy for the MSD when some players will have emerged with their strong play in the state leagues.

 

[dinnaz]

Bo Allan wasn’t expected to get to the Eagles when we did this trade. Heavily linked to Vic lad Hotton but Richmond took him.

North had Sheezel as their number 1 so not sure they still do the trade if they ain’t getting Shezzel. Wardlaw more likely would’ve been left for the Eagles or who knows Tsatas or Cadman most likely.

A lot of unknowns and assumptions really without any trusted inside sources.

Reid would have been the pick & then bid on Marshall with another legit 10 options in there. Its almost like we reached for a second rounder.
But the concern now is that we have the depth on the list talent wise, but have very little actual top end. Everything adds up to us being a middle of the road 8th-Coast at best.

 

[bzparkes]

Reid would have been the pick & then bid on Marshall with another legit 10 options in there. Its almost like we reached for a second rounder.
But the concern now is that we have the depth on the list talent wise, but have very little actual top end. Everything adds up to us being a middle of the road 8th-Coast at best.

Define 'top end'.

Because the clubs that actually have top end of the draft talent are wallowing down the bottom whilst clubs who haven't had such access are playing finals regularly.

If having top end talent was all that mattered, Gold Coast and GWS would have shared the last 10 flags between them.

 

[dinnaz]

Pretty happy with Ginbey tbh, and then anything we get out of Hewett is a bonus.

Cadman kicked as many goals as our top 2 combined last year whilst Ginbey can't hit the side of a barn, and at this stage is a failed midfielder.
I'm a big Ginbey fan don't get me wrong, but he's a tier down from the top echelon.

 

[WCE777]

Define 'top end'.

Because the clubs that actually have top end of the draft talent are wallowing down the bottom whilst clubs who haven't had such access are playing finals regularly.

If having top end talent was all that mattered, Gold Coast and GWS would have shared the last 10 flags between them.

We actually don't have 5+ elite talents which I can agree with dinnaz.
We potentially have 3-4 elite with HR, Duursma, CDT, Shanahan in the early part of their careers.

We do have a large group just behind them in Ginbey, Hough and similar types.

The elite talent we lack is 1 more top 5 mid who can transform our midfield to elite.
HR, Duursma, Hewett? and company can't do it on their own, especially with the impending retirement of Yeo & Kelly etc.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Cadman kicked as many goals as our top 2 combined last year whilst Ginbey can't hit the side of a barn, and at this stage is a failed midfielder.
I'm a big Ginbey fan don't get me wrong, but he's a tier down from the top echelon.

I really like Ginbey, but as you say, Cadman is a gun. He'll kick 55+ goals this year.

 

[Elite Pete]

Reid would have been the pick & then bid on Marshall with another legit 10 options in there. Its almost like we reached for a second rounder.
But the concern now is that we have the depth on the list talent wise, but have very little actual top end. Everything adds up to us being a middle of the road 8th-Coast at best.

Reid clearly would’ve been the pick but we weren’t the only ones to over look him for some reason. Intel before the draft was exactly what happened, teams didn’t love Murphy. Even Freo reportedly tried to trade up for Berry so he wasn’t even their first choice at pick 17*? He fell in their lap. Just like Bo fell in our lap as he wasn’t expected to be there by all reports.

Top end talents right now on the list on what they have shown in a small sample size (needle movers in the future).
Harley
Shanahan
Duursma (way to early but pick 1)
CDT (way too early but pick 4)
McCarthy? But older but the hype is huge.
And probably Ginbey but that lock down defender type normally ist that much of a needle mover.

That is plenty of A graders if they all make it. Others will emerge hopefully like Ed Richards, Gulden, Jordan Dawson, Treacy, Worrel who werent first round f picks but stars. Plus getting the right role players around them would be huge.

Potential but way to early or seen minimal.
Hewett
Bo Allan
Lindsay

 

[Elite Pete]

We actually don't have 5+ elite talents which I can agree with dinnaz.
We potentially have 3-4 elite with HR, Duursma, CDT, Shanahan in the early part of their careers.

We do have a large group just behind them in Ginbey, Hough and similar types.

The elite talent we lack is 1 more top 5 mid who can transform our midfield to elite.
HR, Duursma, Hewett? and company can't do it on their own, especially with the impending retirement of Yeo & Kelly etc.

If those mids come on to what is expected it is plenty. Hawks, Pies and Cats were top 4 with not much mid depth but players that know their role and can play that to the elite standard.

 

[bzparkes]

Reid clearly would’ve been the pick but we weren’t the only ones to over look him for some reason. Intel before the draft was exactly what happened, teams didn’t love Murphy. Even Freo reportedly tried to trade up for Berry so he wasn’t even their first choice at pick 17*? He fell in their lap. Just like Bo fell in our lap as he wasn’t expected to be there by all reports.

Top end talents right now on the list on what they have shown in a small sample size (needle movers in the future).
Harley
Shanahan
Duursma (way to early but pick 1)
CDT (way too early but pick 4)
McCarthy? But older but the hype is huge.
And probably Ginbey but that lock down defender type normally ist that much of a needle mover.

That is plenty of A graders if they all make it. Role players around them would be huge.

Potential but way to early or seen minimal.
Hewett
Bo Allan
Lindsay

I think it really all comes down to what people's definition of an 'A-grader' actually is.

Realistically, it's probably the top 30 players in the comp. Teams don't generally have more than 2 or 3 of those maximum on their list.

You have some outliers, such as the Bulldogs who have 4 of the top 6 players in the comp, according to CD, yet they couldn't even make finals last year.

Carlton have been in a similar boat for years also. Amazing top end but fell away badly after that.

Obviously you want as many A grade players as possible but it's more important to have a quality bottom 6 than it is to have an extra A grade talent, unless they're top 5 in the comp or something.

 

[Mighty Eagles]

The clubs that actually have top end of the draft talent are wallowing down the bottom whilst clubs who haven't had such access are playing finals regularly.

If having top end talent was all that mattered, Gold Coast and GWS would have shared the last 10 flags between them.

There's a lot of merit to this argument.

We all agree Geelong have been a model club on list management for nearly 20 years. The Cats only have four Top 10 picks and yet have nine players drafted via the Rookie draft including; Stengle, Atkins, Dempsey, Close, Henry, Guthrie and Blicavs. That speaks volumes about firstly their talent identification and secondly their player development.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

There's a lot of merit to this argument.

We all agree Geelong have been a model club on list management for nearly 20 years. The Cats only have four Top 10 picks and yet have nine players drafted via the Rookie draft including; Stengle, Atkins, Dempsey, Close, Henry, Guthrie and Blicavs. That speaks volumes about firstly their talent identification and secondly their player development.

The Cats also have a remarkable ability to keep their older players on the park and performing at a high level.

 

[Mighty Eagles]

The Cats also have a remarkable ability to keep their older players on the park and performing at a high level.

They've demonstrated for about two decades they have best football programme in the country.

 

[bzparkes]

There's a lot of merit to this argument.

We all agree Geelong have been a model club on list management for nearly 20 years. The Cats only have four Top 10 picks and yet have nine players drafted via the Rookie draft including; Stengle, Atkins, Dempsey, Close, Henry, Guthrie and Blicavs. That speaks volumes about firstly their talent identification and secondly their player development.

Development's the most important aspect, IMO. Obviously having elite athletic attributes(height, speed, power, endurance) are incredibly important but if a player isn't developed properly they'll never be the best version of themselves.

 

[dinnaz]

Define 'top end'.

Because the clubs that actually have top end of the draft talent are wallowing down the bottom whilst clubs who haven't had such access are playing finals regularly.

If having top end talent was all that mattered, Gold Coast and GWS would have shared the last 10 flags between them.

At time North's GC and WCE list have been so deplorably bad that a good VFL team would outperform it. Yet their best players now are all basically those top 3 selections. GWS talent has been overstated and I actually think their best list was back in 2016. Also look at Brisbane and GC now

Systems ****ed when Geelong have future AFL hall of famers sign up for little-no cost every 3 years:
Dangerfield
Cameron
Smith

We pay up 1st and second rounders for
Baker
Starcevic
Owies

 

[dinnaz]

They've demonstrated for about two decades they have best football programme in the country.

They've done well but it's easy to win with a landslide of talent coming in. Also 1 flag in 15 years isn't all that great of a return for Scott's so called system.

Coaching wise, at any time you can throw a blanket over the top 10 and see minimal difference in output. It's all down to location along with draft & trade rorts.