Past #26: Tarryn Thomas [Part III] - [C.Twomey] AFL rules TT is eligible to play in all competitions as of 14 October

[Horace]

Another day and another quick glance at this thread and lo and behold we are still here.

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[krakouers]

Careful, you’ll be summoned to the big footy integrity unit

 

[krakouers]

Another day and another quick glance at this thread and lo and behold we are still here.

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Yet, at the same time, I feel we have explored far more of teenage habits than most threads

 

[The Filth Wizard]

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Alright that's just about enough out of you.

 

[krakouers]

Alright that's just about enough out of you.

Apologies Mr Chairman

 

[William Caresser]

I'd like to think there would be some sort of a tribunal hearing if the AFL believes TT has a case to answer. TT has thus far only been interviewed by the AFL Integrity committee or whatever they are called. I assume that the investigative committee then deliberates to come to a (interim) verdict, which could result in a formal charge based on the balance of the evidence available, including any punishment if the AFL deems TT to be guilty of an offence that is serious enough for that to be warranted. TT/North should then have the opportunity to either accept or challenge the verdict in a closed tribunal hearing. If that last step is not in place that would seem to be a denial of procedural fairness and therefore a potential denial of justice. Thus far TT has only been interviewed as part of the AFL's information gathering process, which is not the same as a tribunal hearing.

As for Limiting further harm to complainant by maintaining confidentiality and minimising media scrutiny, the AFL blew that when they leaked the complaint against TT and details about his scheduled interview. Another own goal by the AFL.

Yep, there definitely should be a separation of powers/responsibilities so that the investigators aren't the same people making the decision and applying the penalty. And there should be a right to appeal, ideally heard by a person (retired KC) or body independent of the AFL. But whatever the process is, it should be documented properly and made publicly available. Right now it's opaque.

 

[muttley45]

Maybe reason for delay of findings is Integrity Unit are still busy sorting out that umpire leaking Brownlow votes issue

 

[Jazny]

But whatever the process is, it should be documented properly and made publicly available.

Dont think that will happen, players have a right to privacy.

 

[Del191229]

If Tarryn gets the kind of whack that makes us part ways with him, he's going to need to do a SANFl/WAFL stint before any AFL redemption arc imo.

 

[William Caresser]

Dont think that will happen, players have a right to privacy.

I don't know how many times I have to say this. It's not about the AFL revealing details about a specific complaint. It's about the AFL setting out what their procedures are - in writing - for dealing with any complaint against a player, coach, official etc in far more detail than they currently do.

 

[DunderHead]

I just keep coming back to this thread. I’m a loser.

 

[FlyHigh18]

Was De Gooey or Martin ever suspended or hauled under the coals by the integrity unit like this?

They wouldn't do it to a Collingwood. Corrupt game.

You don't need to have done something illegal to be punished by your employer.
They have the right to investigate any complaints and reprimand if you've broken what's expected of you.
In the case of the AFL, the team that handles it is called the integrity unit. At my work it's simply called HR.

If there's a complaint made they need to look into and that's fine, as they should. Was there even a formal complaint in De Goey's case?

 

[gustaaf]

I get that we all love to hate the AFL, but what is the actual evidence for this? There's at least two levels of problem here - (a) we need to assume the press reports are accurate (and like, journos never take a stab in the dark for the sake of story, we all know that) and (b) what motive does any officer of the AFL have to leak anything?

It is not a conspiracy theory against the AFL. The evidence is that the exact date of the planned initial interview with TT was leaked to Xander McGuire. That was subsequently delayed due to the unavailability of TT's legal representatives, but the media report was initially correct and that could not have been a stab in the dark. The only ones who should have been privy to the details of that scheduled initial interview should have been the AFL and TT/North because standard protocols around formal complaints follow up don't allow for complainants to be advised of that type of detail. It seems implausible that TT/North would leak it, so it had to have come from the AFL. I have no idea what the motive for the leak might have been. Perhaps it was just to do Xander a solid. The broad details of the nature of the complaint could have come from the complainant, but it is far more likely that the source was the same person who leaked the interview information.

 

[Makeshift Park]

what motive does any officer of the AFL have to leak anything?

I get why its tempting to regard AFL House as a monolithic entity. But there are more than 400 people working there, and it would have only taken one of those 400-something people to be mates with Xander McGuire.

 

[krakouers]

I just keep coming back to this thread. I’m a loser.

We can be losers together

 

[Sillygit]

I just keep coming back to this thread. I’m a loser.

yea but at least we're all losers together

 

[Sillygit]

We can be losers together

god damnit, seconds late

 

[Dan]

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I count my blessings knowing that I'm not part of such group of individuals.

 

[krakouers]

god damnit, seconds late

 

[krakouers]

I count my blessings knowing that I'm not part of such group of individuals.

Shhh ... a certain someone who is member may hear, wouldn't want to shine a torch on their corrupt methods...

 

[hilly]

If Tarryn gets the kind of whack that makes us part ways with him, he's going to need to do a SANFl/WAFL stint before any AFL redemption arc imo.

Which would basically be 12 months of staying out of trouble as opposed to state league output.

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[Disco Dew]

Geez this thread has hit new lows with all the hairy palm talk

Anyway, I just want this shit to be over with, even if that means he’s gone. Idgaf!

 

[Samsquanch]

5 PM has come and gone. What is happening?

 

[gokangas]

5 PM has come and gone. What is happening?

If they wait until 7:30 or so won't be front page tomorrow.

 

[Jirik13]

Tarryn Thomas

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Tarryn Thomas

Age

25

Ht

190cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.2

4star

CL

0.2

2star

D

12.8

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

0.4

3star

could face a further stint out of the game as North Melbourne braces for the results of an AFL integrity department probe set to be handed down early next week.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/north-melbourne-bracing-for-afl-integrity-department-ruling-on-tarryn-thomas/news-story/eda664e35ba67fa523a68d1e02ddc870