Player Watch #5 Jack Ross

[rfctigerarmy]

Delist

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Disappointing!

 

[tiger_tough]

Too slow for midfield. Move him back to wing or half forward.

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

C grader nothing more

 

[Grrr]

Watched a different game to me. Ross is the only mid besides Lalor who will set up players into a better position and doesn't put them under pressure, especially by hand.

Same number of possessions as Taranto for the year, 2 less clearances. These two are not the problem. Yes it would be nicer if he was a bit quicker, but who is going to take his place in the middle, Hopper and Prestia, been poor and average.

Mcauliffe in for Hopper then at least we have a bit more toe until Campbell and co. find their feet.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

When he's on the inside he looks like an outside player, but when he's on the outside he looks like an inside player.

That's a remarkable skill.

 

[Grrr]

When he's on the inside he looks like an outside player, but when he's on the outside he looks like an inside player.

That's a remarkable skill.

Not sure if you are being nice or nasty, maybe a bit of both.

He has never been predominantly either but the second in the chain giving it to the third. Doesn't put his head over it like Hopper or Taranto but is more like Prestia who in his peak got it from the likes of Cotchin and always on the move when he got the ball.

I think Cumming is going to be a similar type. Maybe Smillie will be the inside player with good skills. I guess we will have to wait and see on that. Pity they are not all there right now, but it will happen.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Not sure if you are being nice or nasty, maybe a bit of both.

He has never been predominantly either but the second in the chain giving it to the third. Doesn't put his head over it like Hopper or Taranto but is more like Prestia who in his peak got it from the likes of Cotchin and always on the move when he got the ball.

I think Cumming is going to be a similar type. Maybe Smillie will be the inside player with good skills. I guess we will have to wait and see on that. Pity they are not all there right now, but it will happen.

No, I was definitely being critical. Jack Ross perpetually disappoints me, year after year, with his lack of composure and development beyond foot soldier.

But despite the array of clear deficiencies in his game, he gives his all. He's a Tiger, and I'll support his naming in the senior team if the match committee continue to do so. I have no grudge, like you see in some of the shitposters around here - I genuinely want him to do well.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Watched a different game to me. Ross is the only mid besides Lalor who will set up players into a better position and doesn't put them under pressure, especially by hand.

Same number of possessions as Taranto for the year, 2 less clearances. These two are not the problem. Yes it would be nicer if he was a bit quicker, but who is going to take his place in the middle, Hopper and Prestia, been poor and average.

Mcauliffe in for Hopper then at least we have a bit more toe until Campbell and co. find their feet.

I’m not a Ross fan, but thought he was amongst our best against Freo.he used teammates in better positions by hand, in centre clearances a number of times.. showed a bit of composure against good opposition.

 

[Grrr]

No, I was definitely being critical. Jack Ross perpetually disappoints me, year after year, with his lack of composure and development beyond foot soldier.

But despite the array of clear deficiencies in his game, he gives his all. He's a Tiger, and I'll support his naming in the senior team if the match committee continue to do so. I have no grudge, like you see in some of the shitposters around here - I genuinely want him to do well.

Not sure what you are looking for in Ross. Equals Taranto in possessions this year, is our no.1 in score involvements, as he was last year. 2 behind Taranto for clearances and he uses the ball far better than Taranto. He is no Lalor, but would be our most constructive mid behind him, granted that is not saying an awful lot.

 

[T4P]

have always been frustrated with Ross, but less so this year so far. has improved on his deficiencies. the kind of player who looks a lot better in a good team ala Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Graham > Ross

 

[sante]

He’s never going to be more than a B-grader. Least of our worries though

 

[thegcat]

C

He’s never going to be more than a B-grader. Least of our worries though

C+

 

[Grrr]

C

C+

How can a player who is averaging 23 possessions a game @76% disposal efficiency in a side on the bottom of the ladder by a C+.

Jai Newcombe who plays a similar position is averaging 26 @74%,and he's a very good player. Cripps is going 24 disposals@62.5, Taranto 63%, Sam Walsh@71, Nic Daicos@69!!, Bailey Smith 63, even Eric Guilden who has great disposal was only 74.5. Credit where it is due, Ross uses it well.

 

[rfctigerarmy]

He’s never going to be more than a B-grader. Least of our worries though

He's being marketed as a mid who is in the leadership group and getting a game without question, though. That in itself is a problem.

He's a dud.

 

[Hoos]

How can a player who is averaging 23 possessions a game @76% disposal efficiency in a side on the bottom of the ladder by a C+?

Some people have their minds made up despite facts proving otherwise.

He's a dud.

See what I mean?

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Some people have their minds made up despite facts proving otherwise.

See what I mean?

No

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Good player who you could see being part of a premiership side easy enough.

 

[Spanish_Fly]

I’m not a Ross fan, but thought he was amongst our best against Freo.he used teammates in better positions by hand, in centre clearances a number of times.. showed a bit of composure against good opposition.

He'd be fine in the middle with a different group of players, thats the issue they are all the same type, slow and poor to OK foot skills.

Its the mix thats wrong not any individual player, Hopper is pushing that though he has just been poor all round.

 

[Hoos]

Good player who you could see being part of a premiership side easy enough.

And he nearly did. It wouldn't have mattered much if McIntosh or Ross played in the 2019 GF instead of Pickett. We were still winning by plenty.

Ross is solid. That's fine. It's some other senior players around him who fall quite a bit short of solid.

There's a few seasons of more important things to worry about before getting to Jack Ross.

 

[Vassp]

Ross's best year was before the injury, thought he was going to turn into a greate mid, after the injury he hasnt shown and didnt live up to the promise i saw in him.

He is still more creative than TT and hopper put together (not hard to do) . So we cant afford to lose him for now.

 

[Wooden Robot]

Good player who you could see being part of a premiership side easy enough.

Who are we trading him to for this premiership?
Won’t play in one here.
Not saying he’s bad either.
Solid B grade.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

He'd be fine in the middle with a different group of players, thats the issue they are all the same type, slow and poor to OK foot skills.

Its the mix thats wrong not any individual player, Hopper is pushing that though he has just been poor all round.

Spot on, it’s the mix we’ve got in there.
McAullife has to be played in the midfield. He adds some speed out of stoppages. He’s a long way from the finished product and has some deficiencies, but potentially could become an important cog in our midfield. It’s crazy not getting games into him.

 

[Yze does it]

He's being marketed as a mid who is in the leadership group and getting a game without question, though. That in itself is a problem.

He's a dud.

This season his stats are